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Posted by Abaco 9 years, 8 months ago to Education
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I don't really know what to say about this.


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  • Posted by $ sjatkins 9 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You are an ass. I was well tested for any possible other explanations before I was allowed to go through the change. Keep your armchair diagnosis to yourself.
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  • Posted by evlwhtguy 9 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You my dear lady are using is typical Nutjob liberal technique of introducing a red herring into the argument and trying to put words into the mouth the other side in the discussion. You even introduce religion into it which is not something I even mentioned in my post. Your last sentence was the most interesting "Of course, as an atheist I accept people as they want to be, as long as they don't deprive me of my freedoms" the point of the matter here is that our dear leader in Washington is trying to deprive all of us of our freedoms and customs. I'm glad that a collectivist whack-job like you is exposing themselves to something as alien as objectivism, hopefully one day you will wise up and realize that collectivism and central control just don't work. That is what this all is, a power-play by Obama in an attempt to homogenize and Collective all of us into mindless sheep so we can be controlled.

    Oh by the way.......news flash...... atheism is a religion too. You my dear are just trying to push your religion off on everybody else as well.
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  • Posted by lrshultis 9 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Regulations are laws. Try to ignore a regulation and the law will come down on you with the ultimate threat that if you fight back hard enough, you may end up dead.
    Regulations are just laws that bureaus write because Congress did not have the guts and time to get them passed. A regulation is just as much a noose about your neck as is a law. There is nothing goodie-goodie about them, mostly nudging people to believe that they keep society safe and orderly.
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  • Posted by $ puzzlelady 9 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Ah, so you are saying that men driven by hormones have no control over their impulses to jam their member into any female within reach. Well, that was Mohammad's belief as well, which is why he had the women all covered up like walking tents so as not to arouse the lust of his wild Arabs. Would you have all women today dress likewise because your hormone-bursting brothers are unable to restrain themselves?

    And why would they go to the trouble to make themselves look like women, just to prey on women in women's rooms that are all tiny stalls with doors that lock?

    This whole tempest in a peepot is religiously driven. It's time the religious start to act on their own belief that everything is the will of God, and that God created people as they are. Stop persecuting people for how God made them. Maybe God likes variations in his genders, or is looking to reduce the birth rate by removing a segment from the breeding herd. How dare they question their God's will?

    Of course, as an atheist I accept people as they want to be, as long as they don't deprive me of my freedoms. Vive la difference!
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  • Posted by $ puzzlelady 9 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    He won't be allowed into the girls' shower room unless he has been surgically altered--no more penis, no more balls. If he had lascivious intentions, that may not be worth the price.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 9 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Old dino been around long enough to foresee such an outcome when I first heard about this new low in King Barry's Obamanation for a legacy.
    Talk about a teenaged boy's dream. Get naked with girls and not even get arrested for it.
    Of course, what this would lead to, perhaps a gang rape, will definitely get him arrested.
    Planned Parenthood won't mind.
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  • Posted by evlwhtguy 9 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Just because government robbed me to pay for handicap stalls in bathrooms and ramps into buildings does not necessarily follow that they have the right to inflict themselves upon me in other ways. I am surprised that on an objectivist website like this you woud Express an idea like this. In addition I will point out thay a urinal and privacy, it is hardly the same thing to stand next to another male in front of a urinal or to have men in the women's restroom it is a completely different thing and completely against custom. I hardly need to remind you that men and women are not the same. perhaps in today's more "enlightened" environment I need to! There are a few inalienable Facts of Life that mr. Obama and his minions keep trying to ignore and the fact that men and women are different is one of them. The male is chock-full of hormones that can cause him to be aggressive to the female. You can quote me situations all day long where nothing bad happens but in the great scheme of things bad things do happen why invite them? Just to make some person who either has an unfortunate mental deficiency or just a flat nut bag, comfortable.
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  • Posted by $ puzzlelady 9 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Look at what has been spent on accommodating the handicapped with ramps and doors and bigger toilet stalls, etc. They have certainly impacted our daily lives; but then they are also an ever-growing proportion of the population. Privacy? How are public urinals private?
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  • Posted by MinorLiberator 9 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I totally agree with you on the issue of the prostitute. I would estimate that the vast majority of "crimes" in this country are "victimless crimes", and would not be crimes in a fully rational society. But I hardly see the "bathroom issue" as being as closely related to "Puritanism" as is outlawing contraception, certain sexual acts done in private, a woman's right to choose and so on. I don't think the State should be involved at all in the restroom, either keeping things as they are, or making, or rather, forcing, radical changes. The NC law in ridiculous, but correct in the sense that it does not impose its view on private businesses. By trying to expand this to a Title IX issue, Obama is barely a step away from doing so. And I still believe the correct approach to what is only a distraction from larger issues is to not take a side, but point it out for exactly what it is: an intentional, unimportant distraction. If change is going to come, let it happen naturally, as it should, by individual businesses, large and small, making their own choices on what type and what rules apply to their bathrooms, and deciding whether it's really an issue or not.
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  • Posted by Esceptico 9 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    My first words were: What is the big deal? Besides, cultures are in constant change, perhaps it is time to change this. The Puritan view on sex that pervades the US has been constantly declining, and that is a good thing. But, it still sticks its ugly head up now and then. Today's newspaper reported a lady convicted of prostitution and she got 4 1/2 years in prison for it. Although not an Objectivist by a long shot, George Carlin said (restated): Why is it illegal to do an act for money when it is perfectly legal to do the same act for free? To me, the conviction proves "traditional Christian Values" are alive and well.
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  • Posted by johnpe1 9 years, 8 months ago
    it means that a "cause célèbre" can take charge of
    your child in a public school and endanger her. -- j
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  • Posted by MinorLiberator 9 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That it it is insignificant is the whole point. I have observed the same things in different cultures, and the key word there is "cultures". The differences are culturally based on long history, not moral choices in any respect, simply, long standing preferences. That makes the US "standard" no more "prudish" than it makes Spanish Basque behaviors "liberated". And as others have pointed out, the insignificance of the issue is the whole point or, as I like to think of it, "game". If you can raise an insignificant issue to the level of "rights', supposedly akin to self-defense or private property, you devalue the important rights, and also distract the MSM and public from much more serious violations of rights Obama is perpetrating with his f***ing pen. For example, the recent change to overtime rules made by the administration will have a massive and negative impact on the economy, perhaps even more than the current significant increases in the minimum wage. Yet, except for a brief story on Fox News, I've seen no discussion of it. "Not as important as bathroom rights". To anyone truly familiar with the theory of limited, Constitutional government, the idea of government using force to impose a "right" to use a specific bathroom is beyond the absurd. The "unimportance" of the issue is what gives it, in this context, its importance. We cannot let the insignificant and meaningless issues of the day go unchallenged, and treat them as if they were important, as the important issues slip by unnoticed.
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  • Posted by $ Mimi 9 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You are in a denial. Maniac-depressives can sometimes present as gender confused. Mind you, in a full-blown manic state they are more likely to think they are George Washington, but to say it doesn't happen is not facing reality. In fact, I would wager there are more cases of manic-depressants masquerading as gender-bends than there are cases of real biological-challenged examples.

    Regardless, there comes a time where we have to face our imperfections with a certain determination not to allow it to define us or become a burden to others. If trans-whatevers are not comfortable with private arrangements but are comfortable in arrangements that make others very uncomfortable who the hell needs them or cares!

    But that's the beauty of our socially-instructed society: who would pay for this fact to see the light of day.?
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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 8 months ago
    "The time has come," the Walrus said, "to speak of many things,
    Of shoes and ships and sealing wax,
    Of cabbages and kings,
    And why the sea is boiling hot,
    And whether pigs have wings."
    The Walrus and the Carpenter -- Through the Looking Glass.

    The above poem makes more sense than the whole transgender kefuffle. Surgically altered? You are now a different sex. Not altered? Sorry, use the bathroom with the those who have the same genitalia as you. That will eliminate the degenerates and pedophiles. Sorry if feelings get hurt.
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  • Posted by Suzanne43 9 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Just wait until the transgender population grows by leaps and bounds mainly because it will begin to dawn on a lot of heterosexual mail students that they can shower with girls. Talk about the Law of Unintended Consequences!
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  • Posted by 9 years, 8 months ago
    Had a funny conversation with a client the other night. We were talking about how this whole thing has taken over the discourse now. He and I both are not in favor of it. Very nice guy, in his 80s now. I joked that if I could have I would have been showering with the girls after every football practice. He said, "Sure, but at that age you'd probably (swinging his had in an upward position)." We both had a great laugh over that.
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  • Posted by davidmcnab 9 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It's only going to get worse. Welcome to the new War on Gender.

    In my area, there's a group called "Beyond Binary" who go into schools and preach to the children that gender is wrong and should be thrown off like some kind of old raincoat, which of course implies that it's also wrong for people to have a sexual preference.
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  • Posted by BeenThere 9 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Mimi "...getting his policy ideas from Netflix rentals." That is classic. As to your first paragraph, having raised three daughters, I can attest to your accuracy. BT
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  • Posted by Riftsrunner 9 years, 8 months ago
    As a libertarian, I believe in allowing people to live however they wish as long as it doesn't harm anyone else. The Trans issue is difficult for me as far as children are concerned. I have a hard time with parents accepting that a prepubcent child claim to being Trans is making a true claim. On the other hand, I understand if they are making a true claim, that puberty is going to make some irreversible changes to that person's body that will make it more difficult to pass as their claimed gender as an adult. So I believe this issue should be handled on an individual basis and in a phases over time method to gear everyone's comfort concerning the issue. No change (good or bad) to society is accomplished in great leaps, but by small steps where everyone is comfortable and are allowed to see what the consequences are before they become irreversible or stopped.
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