Open Carry Does Not Work: Check Out Short Video

Posted by $ allosaur 9 years, 1 month ago to Video
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In the past, three different jobs required me to open carry and at least I was wearing a uniform.
As a civilian, I carry a concealed pistol.
This gives me the tactical advantage of surprise.
I even carry it into my credit union where I'm not supposed to.
Guess I'm a rebel with a cause.


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  • Posted by 23Skidoo 9 years, 1 month ago
    I carry both ways and see the point of both sides of the argument. Sometimes I'll carry my .44 Superblackhawk with a 7.5 inch barrel just to remind people that you have the right to do so. A right not exercised is a right lost. The fool in that video that lost his gun was not using a positive retention holster. In addition, I would have followed the perp and retrieved my weapon. Some Krav Maga training will do wonders in allowing you to disarm people even when you yourself are not armed. As for that perp, he probably held the gun sideways and didn't have a proper sight picture on his victim.
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  • Posted by dbhalling 9 years, 1 month ago
    I think it depends on the circumstance. I don't want to advertise that my house is a gun free zone, but I might want to advertise that my house includes a proud gun owner

    A guard with a visible gun is more likely to deter a criminal than a guard with no visible gun. Concealing your gun can slow down the time that it takes to react. I don't think there is one right answer.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    How the Air Force came into being. The Marines had the Navy to make fun of so the Army changed the Army Hair Corpse to the Hair Farce. That remains t this day.

    No Stuff it really happened that way.
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  • Posted by $ 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    LOL!
    Old dino now ponders an interesting approach of finally obtaining quality leadership.
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  • Posted by $ 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    I first heard that "poem" just after I was drafted into the Marines back in '69. The Marines did not like a rifle called a gun. Period.
    Any recruit who called a rifle a gun would either have to do pushups or stand at attention, rifle held at point arms.
    When he said "rifle" or" fighting" he would give his rifle a shake--when he said "gun" and "fun," he would point downstairs.
    The only time I ever saw a whole marching company led by a drill instructor groping themselves was in the "Full Metal Jacket" movie.
    Keep in mind that I only saw what little bit I saw. Parris Island and Camp Pendelton are big places with lots of squad bays.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Isn't Assault Rifle a PC Hollywood term? In my day the term would have brought a laugh and a round of sexually oriented jokes and bragging rights stories. To an Infantry Soldier it was a rifle. That's it. Using the term gun was even worse. Punishment was running around in circles weapon held overhead at full arm length chanting....

    This is my rifle
    This is my gun
    this one's for fighting
    This one's for fun
    .
    The descriptive part i left out had to do with what was dangling as one ran their punishment laps. I am so glad I was soldiering back in the real days when by the one it took more than one day singular to claim any sort of bragging rights. Months or years was more like it.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 1 month ago
    I think that open carry stopped making sense by 1910. Once again, however, I don't think that the government in all of its forms has any right to tell you how to carry a firearm. There should not be any laws against being stupid. If there were, almost everyone in Washington would be in jail.
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  • Posted by jimjamesjames 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Things have changed. I went to Australia in 1968, traded a Winchester 94 for an old (in great condition) Winchester 1892, .44-40. Buddy and I left Sydney on the train to Townsville (1000 miles). No case for the gun, just carried it like John Wayne. Never a word said by anyone, never hassled by cops, never occurred to me that I was doing anything out of the ordinary.
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  • Posted by $ 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    I bought a 9mm that fits in my pocket with a sort of holster that covers the trigger. It is completely out of sight.
    Right-handed me now carries my "pocket pistol" in my right pocket, having shifted my billfold to my left.
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  • Posted by lkparkerjr 9 years, 1 month ago
    In Texas, most of us concealed hand gun carriers wanted open carry only because in some instances it is difficult to completely conceal your handgun under your clothing. Open carry ensures we are not fined if for some reason our handgun becomes visible under our shirts. Most of us understand that carrying a gun in the open only makes us a target and eliminates the element of surprise.
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  • Posted by $ 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    We have open carry in Alabama but you do not see it very much. Even that in urban areas is almost always a holstered pistol. Someone with a rifle or a shotgun in plain sight would be unnerving with domestic terrorist attacks in the news.
    But the sight of someone with a rifle or a shotgun out in the country? Especially during hunting season? That would gain hardly more than a glance unless you were from New York City or some other libtard zone.
    One time I bought an AR-15 as a gift for a close relative at a gun show in the civic center of downtown Birmingham, Alabama.
    I had to walk a long way back to my car and I knew other buyers had left the civic center carrying all sorts of firearms case or no case, but I still feeling weird outside carrying that weapon in sight of tall city buildings.
    There was no magazine in the unloaded weapon and I had no ammo for the mags I did have when a beggar hassled me for lunch money.
    Wondering if his asking was but a shark bump for a hit, snatch and run mugging, I shook my head and stayed as clear of him as I could.
    Once clear of that moocher obstacle, old dino still felt very self-conscious as he waited on a traffic light and crossed an intersection in sight of traffic on my way to several parking lots beneath a long overpass of Interstate I-20/59.
    I was glad to get what Killary would call an assault rifle locked in my car trunk.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 9 years, 1 month ago
    Plus, conceal carry prevents liberals that are always seeking safe places from knowing your carrying ....
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  • Posted by jimjamesjames 9 years, 1 month ago
    When my buddies from Connecticut and California come in October to hunt, I make them open carry to feel what gun freedom feels like in Wyoming. I agree with the strategy that concealed gives the bad guy more opportunity to make a wrong assumption and I never carry open when I am alone.
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  • Posted by $ 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    A mix of the two giving pause does not full compliance work in the "gun free zone" with a credit union/bank guard present.
    Having been a bank guard in an otherwise gun free zone myself, I fully knew I was the number one obstacle/ target to overcome for a successful bank robbery.
    Fortunately, I only had to deal with disruptive people and that was rare.
    I've have wondered how many times a disobedient concealed carry person visited this or that bank while I was on duty.
    Doing that secret voodoo that I do too.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 1 month ago
    A mix of the two in any area gives pause. The would be attacker sees open carry on some and has to wonder about the rest of the shoppers. Same thing as marked police cars demonstrating presence and unmarked cars providing a back up deterrent. The first slows most traffic down by being seen.The second takes care of the non believers and both are connected by the fastest thing on the road. A radio. The unmarked cars are seen when the tickets are being issued or a field sobriety test conducted.

    John Q. Public can add. One marked one unmarked means my chances of much greater than five over working are nil.

    Just an add on. If are stopped for speeding and were within five over ask to see the police cars calibration card. That's a written record of the start of shift, end of shift, and during operational use accuracy checks of the radar type units or speed guns. Without that your claim of being within the limit is as valid as the speed guns claim you were speeding. Depends on the location. Some areas treat the whole thing as administrative which means a non defensible situation without courts and regular protections. No fault is another bad deal unless you were true guilty party. I often wonder if the insurance companies kick back anything to the jurisdiction that issued a No fault ticket. Guaranteed your rates are going up for both involved parties. .
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