See my reply to freedomforall below:
https://www.galtsgulchonline.com/post...

My freshman year was 1967. I completed a bachelor's in 2008 and a master's in 2010. In between, I attended seven different colleges and universities, off and on over the decades, taking classes I wanted for reasons of my own. Often, it was for career. Sometimes, it was personal improvement. I had good professors and bad, but most were pretty good. One thing I learned about the fourth year (third school) is that you get out of it what you put into it. I never let a poorly performing professor prevent me from learning.

Your mileage varied.

To me the most outrageous part of this interview was the last statement by Matthews: "I love your ideals." Ideals, indeed. This woman's "ideals" consist of her devotion to collectivism and theft. Yuch.

Continue to deflate intelligence , control healthcare ,inflate cost to survive... Then add three eggs (hill,bern,tru) separate the yoke
Heat at global warming
Recipe makes 300 million slaves.

Baloney. First of all, nothing in our world hinges on knowing the dry weight of a bushel of wheat. So, cross out all of the questions that depend on knowing how to be a farmer.

Second, 100 years ago, even with the High School Movement pushing for higher education, you could drop out legally at 16 and many did. Even into the 1960s and 70s in places like Detroit, you could get a "good paying job" in a factory without an education -- and many did, which laid the foundation for Detroit's woes today. High school was optional. Not everyone went. And many quit before they had to take that final exam.

I agree that high school was more rigorous for my mother's generation, and for me more than for my daughter. But many factors come into that. My mother and I both went to the same elementary school and high school (some years apart, of course) in Cleveland, Ohio. However, my daughter went to high school in a little farming town in central Michigan. She got through and all, but it was not that much education. And I see the same thing here in Texas. I have been a science fair judge for five years. These poor kids from the rural schools are deprived for science education resources while their schools pour millions into football. Care to denounce high school football? In Texas? My point is that you can find all kinds of egregious examples, but outliers do not make a curve.

I don't follow Matthews, but maybe he becomes softer when the candidate in question is Clinton.

What. The. Actual?!?!? Based on this, the question is how long will it be before the USA becomes a larger-scale Greece?

University students would do well to add some Mandarin papers to their courses, so they can speak more easily to their creditors/overlords.

Thanks for sharing .
I see that I have some homework to do!

Absolute value? So you think that if an individual values something then that is just an absolute value. All value is an individual determined value. The fact that individuals make comparisons between values does not remove the absoluteness of a chosen value. That value can be only changed in the future and remains an absolute until then. If that were not true, the universe would have to wink out from a contradiction of A = not-A.

National Debt $19 trillion and counting .At normalized interest rates or the 100 year average. Interest expense dwarfs military spending by a whopping 400 billion. Until we pay that off we shouldn't finance ANYTHING.

Laughing...but isn't that the point?

Government or the "Kakistocracy" as I call it, is where the stupid go for work.
They obviously can't create value or are tired of doing so; a government job gets them all the money, fame and prestige they could want. We are their money tree!

Now don't go getting all Objective on us now... ;)

Working now...5/10/16 4:45 EST

That's right...if one has the concern and abundance to do so...then by all means. I have different concerns and different things in abundance that I may want to share.

SO LEAVE ME! OUT OF IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sounds like Matthews is finally growing up. I wonder how many months before M$NBC fires him?

He's off the sauce now!

8Years back in those days is equal to an associates degree today...maybe even more.

Ah but the production or creation of value creates abundance...

Just because there is no payment other than the cost of the internet connection, the greatest cost for education is the time and effort put into learning the course material plus application to something useful in ones life. I studied at the University of Wisconsin for six years in the sixties when as an instate student the tuition was low, $89 a semester to start and got to $350 a semester in grad school. The great cost was learning to be a chemist as an undergrad as well as the instruction that I hated in physical ed and in a year of mandatory ROTC. The cost in grad school was even mentally greater learning to be a mathematician. I did put chemistry and mathematics (other than a hobby) to the side after graduation when I could not get along with a NSF and ACS registration program to help keep the USA safe during Vietnam fears. I went into a small, small business and had four months a year to mess with number theory. The only thing I did not value was the government and society interference, the costs of those were more than I was willing to pay, they are not free.

You are correct in that value is an individual measure, but I would argue that this is a case of comparative value - not absolute value. Employment and hiring decisions relate more to comparative value: what does this potential employee bring which that potential employee lacks. Education is an area where one argues comparative value: it's why an MBA from Wharton is more coveted by a potential employee than an MBA from a community college. In the case where everyone automatically gets a college education, what you are doing in fact is destroying a hitherto valuable means of comparison.

There's not only the cost issue, but the law of supply and demand are just as relevant. How will the Uni's take the increased supply of students? Standards are gonna have to be lowered even further.

Then what happens to the talented few who demonstrate superiority. Equalize them? Talk about crushing the virtuous, and raising the criminals.

Think about that for a second or two. Value is determined by individual minds. I highly value many things that I have purchased or earned as well as many things that I have gotten free. Even things that are very common are valued by individuals. Perhaps you are stuck with value only relating to price where value is sometimes but not always due to scarcity. Many things and situations are considered to have no or little value because, though they exist, they are not seen worthy of being coveted.