Maph, the current AG seems to have the same outlook that you express in your comment. Irrelevant until all facts are known.

How convenient. The cops can catch you coming and going.

The check your privilege statements are designed to chill a conversation, in my book ad hominems and really irritate the hell out of me. I did lots of cool things. I did them. It had nothing to do with race or sex.

My brother in law is a detective and a very decent man but when you read so many terrible stories of cops over-reacting and abusing their power, you do become very leery of Police !

Mine doesn't, but in Virginia I needed both. I just use both here because we get two, so might as well use them.

Your questions deserve answers....but let us not hold our breath for them!

I did too. Stifle and turn the discussion to something irrelevant.

Sorry but I did. Ad hominem attacks do not further discussion. Maph 's remark was an attempt to stifle the discussion.

Agreed. A point for both you and CircuitGuy for a rational statements.

What!? Are you serious? Maph your reality check has bounced again. Where is your evidence to support this accusation? I'm not taking a point away in furtherance of the discussion.

Precisely. The race bandwagon needs a break. We don't know that, so lets not jump to conclusions. That seems a bit racist to me.

I did not mark it down, but this seems like a hasty conclusion. Many people commit violent crime and police use excessive force without it being racially motivated. It's certainly possible that it was racially motivated, but we don't know. Maybe the police officer were itching for a confrontation for some other reason. Maybe they saw a driver of a similar car who committed a heinous crime recently. Maybe that had something personal against this guy. None of those are justified, but it doesn't have to be race. Maybe he threatened the officers in a way not shown on the video. My wild guess is they were quick to use force, not just b/c of race, but because of the general militarization of the police.

Agreed.

The really interesting thing is he was being treated for PTSD. What if those cops caused him to basically shut down to all that was really in front of him, and cause him to think he was in a potential combat situation? This is a terrible thing. And entirely unnecessary...

All that for a front license plate which is a fixit ticket. I want the whole story. Why, unless he had a warrants would he resist arrest? Why would he be arrested for a missing front plate? Why all the cop cars for a routine traffic stop? Why?