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Posted by $ Abaco 10 years, 4 months ago to Government
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I saw this movie last night. Given the big interest in the recent thread here on forced vaccination I thought I'd mention this here as I think people on either side (or the middle) of the topic will find this movie to be very interesting. This movie, for some time, was censored by government officials. That, alone, makes it a must see in my book. I knew almost all of the information in the movie but wanted to see if I really understood what I had learned. I did.

Do you think the government wouldn't lie to you? Do you think special interests aren't very powerful? Do you not want to believe that government officials don't ever take a high-paying, cush job from a company they treated very well as civil servants? These are key questions we all need to ask ourselves. One of the lines that really stood out to me was, "I was afraid that we'd be dragging a river looking for Dr. Thompson." You'll know what I mean when you see it. And, that line prompted many of us in the know to semi-jokingly tell each other afterward, "I have no intention of killing myself." Yeah...that's an issue. By the way...I have no intention of killing myself.


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  • Posted by lrshultis 10 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    If it is that bad, why not just give up on improving the human condition. You cannot have a totally safe life with or without attempts to improve it.
    Actually, your alleged agents, which dis-empower the body, enable the bodies biochemistry to act to do useful healing stuff. But care should be had to not treat without proper knowledge of the chemistry being affected and is best left to experts. If you are not an expert in biochemistry, there is no way to understand whether a treatment has a chance of being a valid therapy. Chance is the operative word here because so much depends upon dosage getting to the chemical systems involved in a disease condition and research having been correct.
    Don't throw out 'helping the body out' with the fear of the unknown.
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  • Posted by lrshultis 10 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Think about that! Does that make any sense? The criteria for a diagnoses of autism keeps changing by adding and subtracting from the spectra for autism and like many conditions the number of cases might even double over night just by definition. A few years ago it was 1 in 150 and short time latter it was 1 in 80. Same happened with type 2 diabetics where nearly over night the cases doubled just by changing the normal blood glucose values. Same with the healthy Body Mass Index values.
    With vaccination, the autism cases still increased years after mercury was removed from the supposed causative vaccine.
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  • Posted by lrshultis 10 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Maybe, in your case, you cannot be neutral and/or unbiased because of your 'belief in' faith approach rather than taking a more scientific
    'belief that' vaccination is useful in an overall better outcome than no vaccination. "Believing that' something is true gives the chance to change ones opinion while 'believing in' something puts a possible personal emotional ownership burden on the believer. E.g., 'I believe in god' will be nearly impossible to change compared 'I believe that god exists'. The former stands whether there is evidence or not while the second allows some thought about the belief.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 10 years, 4 months ago
    Was that in the theater? If so, I hope that I can view it on other mediums eventually.
    I, like you, have studied the issue ferociously and over a long period of time and have come to the same conclusions.

    My objective stance is: "You can't do 'For' the body, without consequence, what the body could do for itself...Under the Best of intentions and circumstances. They knowingly or unknowingly have disempowered the body to do for itself.
    And yes, the general theme is not of good intentions, whether it be ignorance or purpose.
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  • Posted by $ Susanne 10 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It's an interesting premise, my suspicion, however, is that it is NOT virus, or bacteriologically caused condition (or caused by the vaccines for such diseases) as then it would spread rapidly per your supposition, either to the general population (a'la bubonic plague) or to everyone vaccinated. My assertion is it's a change in the genetic code (similar to the Y chromosome becoming further and further recessive). While Cro-Magnon man did eventually supersede Neanderthal man, there was significant overlap. (My suspicion is that the mutation that caused the CM evolutionary step could well have been viral in nature, leading to the rapid depletion and extinction of the former species as the infected replaced them), said virus being a mutagen to the point where the mutation created the eradication of the latter as the former got old and died out.

    As to people becoming autistic because they did not receive a disease, it can't work, as those who never had, say, Rubella, were that the triggering factor, would automatically have (or have a propensity toward) Autism... and such a link would have shown up long before this.

    Like I said - it's just something to consider. I disbelieve the whole "Vaccines are the root of all evil" to which some would have you subscribe. Perhaps it's my belief IN vaccination (and the reasons for such belief) that causes me to find other answers for questions on issues such as Autism (or Alzheimer's), so I cannot (and shall not) claim to be a neutral and/or unbiased source.
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  • Posted by $ Radio_Randy 10 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Autism might be considered a stage in evolution, only if everyone on the planet were generally affected. If it's confined to a country, or a given "system" of peoples, it's related to something common to them.

    What about the possibility that autism and many other afflictions are simply in response to people NOT getting the mumps and measles at a young age? It could take many generations before mankind discovers ALL of the effects of his forays into nature and most of us probably won't be around to see these discoveries.
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  • Posted by $ Susanne 10 years, 4 months ago
    This is just a question for consideration...

    What if Autism is not some vile conspiracy by the government and some left/right wing billionaire, but just a stage in evolution?

    I know people like to continue the fear-based control mindset already extant, but you would think, between "Vaccine poisoning" to "chemtrails" to "global cooling/warming" to "the Illuminati/Rosicrucian/klan" connection to rule the world, to the evidence against Hillary being a plot, to... well, you get the idea.

    Maybe the human mind is evolving to use less of it's power for mindless chatter and more for intellectual pursuits, not by choice but by design? That to achieve the next evolutionary level, the "software architecture" of the mind is changing as radically as it did from the Neander to Cro Mag era...

    I know VERY brilliant thinkers who are labeled "Autistic" - people who can think their way out of a wet paper sack, who can compose amazing music, who can talk physics with the best of them, who can challenge commonly held beliefs...
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  • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 10 years, 4 months ago
    "A screenwriter who worked on “Shrek” and other Hollywood blockbusters is developing a new — and apparently sympathetic — movie about Andrew Wakefield, the discredited British physician who launched the anti-vaccine movement with a fraudulent study suggesting that vaccines can cause autism.

    Wakefield is already popping up on the big screen in cities nationwide in “Vaxxed,” a documentary that sparked controversy this spring when actor Robert De Niro made and then canceled plans to premiere it at the Tribeca Film Festival." -- https://www.statnews.com/2016/05/03/v...

    Abstract: On February 28, 1998, Dr. Andrew Wakefield published an article in the Lancet on 12 children “with a history of pervasive developmental disorder and intestinal symptoms. Onset of behavioral symptoms was associated, by the parents, with measles, mumps, and rubella vaccination in eight of the 12 children.” Though not claiming the MMR vaccine caused the symptoms, adding what parents thought certainly raised the possibility. Statements and articles by Wakefield suggested he believed such a link probable. Vaccination rates plummeted in the UK and outbreaks of vaccine preventable diseases followed. Investigative journalist Brian Deer uncovered dishonest and unethical medical practices by Wakefield, resulting in Wakefield losing his medical license. Rather than appeal the decision, Wakefield wrote a book, “Callous Disregard: Autism and Vaccines – The Truth Behind a Tragedy,” wherein he claims loss of his license was a political attempt to silence his criticism of vaccine safety. This paper examines the validity of Wakefield’s claims. A careful review of publicly available information makes it clear that Wakefield’s claims regarding vaccine safety are wrong. It is hoped that this review will be used by doctors and public health personnel to encourage parents hesitating to have their children vacci- nated to question anti-vaccination claims in general, given that many proponents often refer to Wakefield as an authority and display in their own writings and pronouncements similar erroneous claims." "Wrong About Vaccine Safety: A Review of Andrew Wakefield’s “Callous Disregard” Andrew J. Wakefield Callous Disregard: Autism and Vaccines – The Truth Behind a Tragedy Skyhorse Publishing, 2010 New York, New York ISBN 978-1-61608-169-0 by Joel A. Harrison, PhD, MPH here http://benthamopen.com/contents/pdf/T...
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  • Posted by ISank 10 years, 4 months ago
    Mahalo for bringing this up. I see its on Island so I'll take a look. Never wanted to have kids so it's not in that regard but dang if autism isn't exploding.
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  • Posted by $ 10 years, 4 months ago
    This is also the last I mention this topic, anywhere, on the Internet. I just think many of you will really be intrigued by this movie.

    Per the math, in 2032 80% of boys will be diagnosed with autism. America won't be able to handle that. I can see that the nation is not making any real moves to avoid that freight train. So, I am going to get very passive, transitioning to a very Galt-like existence.
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