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The Forgotten Man of Socialized Medicine

Posted by LetsShrug 12 years, 1 month ago to Philosophy
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THE FORGOTTEN MAN OF SOCIALIZED MEDICINE (Ayn Rand)

This is the explanation given by a distinguished brain surgeon of why he joined Galt’s strike.



“I quit when medicine was placed under State control, some years ago,” said Dr. Hendricks. “Do you know what it takes to perform a brain operation? Do you know the kind of skill it demands, and the years of passionate, merciless, excruciating devotion that go to acquire that skill? That was what I would not place at the disposal of men whose sole qualification to rule me was their capacity to spout the fraudulent generalities that got them elected to the privilege of enforcing their wishes at the point of a gun. I would not let them dictate the purpose for which my years of study had been spent, or the conditions of my work, or my choice of patients, or the amount of my reward. I observed that in all the discussions that preceded the enslavement of medicine, men discussed everything—except the desires of the doctors. Men considered only the ‘welfare’ of the patients, with no thought for those who were to provide it. That a doctor should have any right, desire or choice in the matter, was regarded as irrelevant selfishness; his is not to choose, they said, only ‘to serve.’ That a man who’s willing to work under compulsion is too dangerous a brute to entrust with a job in the stockyards—never occurred to those who proposed to help the sick by making life impossible for the healthy. I have often wondered at the smugness with which people assert their right to enslave me, to control my work, to force my will, to violate my conscience, to stifle my mind—yet what is it that they expect to depend on, when they lie on an operating table under my hands? Their moral code has taught them to believe that it is safe to rely on the virtue of their victims. Well, that is the virtue I have withdrawn. Let them discover the kind of doctors that their system will now produce. Let them discover, in their operating rooms and hospital wards, that it is not safe to place their lives in the hands of a man whose life they have throttled. It is not safe, if he is the sort of man who resents it—and still less safe, if he is the sort who doesn’t.”


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  • Posted by Kittyhawk 12 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    That's very interesting if Rand didn't want compulsory taxation. For me at least, I wouldn't call the resulting system "government." I've heard government defined as an entity with a monopoly on force and the right to demand tribute (taxes) within a certain geographical boundary.

    I think individuals within a society can adequately provide for their defense voluntarily. Lack of government (as defined above) doesn't necessarily mean everyone is on their own.to fight the bad guys. Interestingly enough, some Americans who pay their taxes and supposedly have the "protection" of government laws, police, and courts are turning to the free market and private security as the only effective solution: http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/citize...
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  • Posted by Zero 12 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    She didn't believe in compulsory taxation. Obj's look for non-compulsory revenue.

    As for the other crime - it is just a social pact. If you stay with us the state will handle our "light-work". Outside of society each person has to provide the "force of law" themselves - think "wild west".
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    Posted by Boborobdos 12 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Many do. It is part of America's debt to our veterans.

    My doctor has a relatively small practice. I actually knew some of his patients before I met him. He's active in the community, drives an older car, has a nice family, etc. Some of his staff have been with him for decades. He isn't in it to get rich. He is in medicine to help people. He does get paid, etc. but it's not the the same degree as some who are charging for everything they can as often as they can.
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    Posted by Boborobdos 12 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    They should not HAVE to do their work as charity.

    But some choose, for their own reasons, to serve in positions where the situation is weighted towards cutting edge science, and making the lives of some kids better, like Shriners', rather than grind a bunch of patients through and racking up the insurance remuneration. Different ways to practice for different doctors.
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    Posted by Boborobdos 12 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    You can certainly do that in America LetsShrug. Diversity is part of what makes America so great.
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    Posted by Boborobdos 12 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Actually you don't have to deal with them at all. There are plenty of other hospitals.

    To the best of my knowledge, particularly for Shriners', the patient pays nothing for the services rendered for the malady they were admitted for.
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  • Posted by Kittyhawk 12 years, 1 month ago
    Socialized medicine is a scary prospect. Certainly, the quality will go down for most, although those with enough money will still be able to find effective health care somewhere in the world.

    And I don't think we should underestimate the power of the free market, and the ability of creative individuals to get things done despite the obstacles. Here's a great article about a new trend in medicine: http://reason.com/archives/2013/03/13/th... Here's a quote from it: "Direct primary care is part of a larger trend of physician-entrepreneurs all across the country fighting to bring transparent prices and market forces back to health care."
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  • Posted by Kittyhawk 12 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Quotes like this leave me baffled that Ayn Rand wasn't an anarchist, but still insisted we need a government. The two views contradict each other, since having even minimal government requires a belief that the tribe/state does in fact own you to some extent. There is no other basis for fining and jailing people who don't comply with the law, such as paying taxes. And if a person is allowed to withdraw support for rulers by refusing to pay taxes or obey other laws without penalty -- that is, if obedience is truly voluntary -- then I don't think you have "government" anymore, but a voluntaryist (anarchist) society.

    Atlas Shrugged is obviously a statement that we own ourselves, and should be able to withdraw our consent and not be governed if it conflicts with our values That seems to be the ideal Rand is holding up very often, but then she backpedals into minarchism. To me, holding both views simultaneously must be a source of cognitive dissonance.
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  • Posted by j_IR1776wg 12 years, 1 month ago
    My own doctor just announced that he is converting his practice to a concierge practice via an organization called MDVIP. He will be reducing his workload from around 3500 patients to 400. Another victory for BO and his Marxist thugs!
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  • Posted by Kittyhawk 12 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    RonC said, "Scarcity causes price to rise." Yes, the first step was government licensing of professions, which created a monopoly, concentrated power over the professions via required schooling, and intentionally shifted medicine's focus from naturopathic to allopathic. James Corbett has an interesting video on the course of medicine over the last 100+ years, which shows how we wound up with Obamacare: http://www.corbettreport.com/rockefeller...
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  • Posted by BradA 12 years, 1 month ago
    As more doctors choose this path and their shortage becomes acute, I consider whether the ACA architects will enact their equivalent of Order 10-289. Then I can only smile as a non-compliant surgeon enters the room and asks, "OK, I am here. Where would you like me to cut?"
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  • Posted by kathywiso 12 years, 1 month ago
    Dr. Hendrick's has restated for the medical field why John Galt walked out of the 20th Century Motor Co. Doctors are shrugging to different areas under the name of medical tourism, Costa Rica, Belize, Chili...anywhere they can practice their true skills without the thumb of government holding them down, not to mention the added expense added to patients. Have personally had 2 doctor's leave their practice due to the same reasons...can't blame anyone for NOT working under today's conditions and it is only going to get worse...
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 12 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    We pay for the VA. I am not opposed to Catholic hospitals or Shriners' hospitals or Arnold Palmer Children's Hospital provided that I have traded value for value.
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  • Posted by Temlakos 12 years, 1 month ago
    Haven't we already begun to see doctors "go Galt" as the mainstream media put it? The problem: the doctors' own "union" betrayed them. Rand could have written a complete novel about the Machiavellian machinations of the AMA and the specialty associations.
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 12 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    I like doctors who are dedicated to curing me and others, too, BUT who realize that it is not worth doing unless they are getting properly compensated. Men of the mind should not have to do their work as charity.
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 12 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    That's what makes me unusual. I have co-started a couple of small tech companies, but now have "shrugged" into academia.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 12 years, 1 month ago
    Being an old guy, I visit a variety of physicians often over the course of a year. Two of them are "dropping out." One, by early retirement and the other by going into a "boutique" practice. They are a neurologist and an orthopedic surgeon, and both of them would say pretty much the same as above, if they had the skill to write about it like A.R. My general practice doc is adding specialists to his practice, hoping that by working as a unit they can fend off the impending doom of their profession.
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  • Posted by 12 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    I don't want my Dr. to live for me and I don't want to live for him. I want a value for value exchange so we both benefit, and without outside interferences.
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  • Posted by RonC 12 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    The thing about the gulch is mostly it's all the creation of doers, not academics. Friedman was still an academic, an enlightened one, but still part of the book nook. Doers, on the other hand, just start a thing and adjust their parameters to create their results. That experimentation, creative destruction, re-start, refine...all of that amounts to something not found in the halls of academia.
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  • Posted by tonie262 12 years, 1 month ago
    I completely understand the decision that was made here and it saddens me that something that you felt so passionate about and devoted a portion of your life to has ended because of the irrational and lack of knowledge from others.
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  • Posted by Ranter 12 years, 1 month ago
    Thanks! I just stole this and posted it on FaceBook.
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