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"The objective is to take money from poor people in rich countries and give it to rich people in poor countries"

"The world has been getting warmer since the last glacial maximum"
Right. Since the last global temperature minimum, temperatures have been higher. Temperature goes up and down due to changes in solar radiation, changed and wobbles in the orbit and spin of the globe, and massive undersea volcanic activity which change ocean currents. All facts if not fully quantified.
If data sources can be trusted, the rise in temperatures over the 20th century have stopped for some 17 years now. The climate alarmists models did not predict it, the so-called climate scientists do not know why. Unfortunately, official data can not be trusted, manipulation has been extensive. Documented, fact.

"we don't know how much faster) b/c of human activities"
Wrong. We do know, it is zero.

"I don't get the political controversy."
Climate change is a political matter. The objective is to take money from poor people in rich countries and give it to rich people in poor countries, there are massive fees on the way. Well documented facts.
The science such as it is, is based on superseded hypotheses, faking of data, and persecution of opponents. The proponents are of two kinds: A cabal with their hands in your pocket, and those who know nothing but being altruistic, want to save the world from disaster.

Is there a disaster? Yes!
People in poor countries starve while food crops are diverted to fuel use, and land is taken out of productive use so rich can get carbon credits. Avalanches of government money are spent on propaganda, useful economic activity is reduced and sometimes stopped.
A big UK power station (DRAX) is being converted from coal to wood chips, these come from trees cut down in Virginia and carried by oil powered ships, all to save (..here I am speechless, I do not see what can be saved), but a lot of money is being made by the usual set.

But the oceans are rising! Yes, by 3mm a year. There is evidence of slowing over the past decade. The Pacific island nations that claim to be sinking are in fact rising. But they got some UN money.

The world, especially poorer nations, badly needs more electric power. World funding agencies will not lend money, western governments buy off the leaders with wind farms, when you see the blades turning you know the diesel motor is working. Fact.

The world has been getting warmer since the last glacial maximum. It will be very costly. It would happen anyway, but it's happening faster (we don't know how much faster) b/c of human activities. We will have to pay a price to deal with rising sea levels, sooner b/c of human activities.

All of this, IMHO, is fact, and I don't get the political controversy. We will need to find a way to drive the climate to favor human interest or build amazing engineering structures to keep the water out of coastal cities and bring water to the places that become drier. I'm confident we will. I don't get all the denalism.

Humans almost disappeared around when anatomically modern humans appear. We almost lost western civilization to the plague. This isn't nearly as bad. We'll develop amazing technologies that will have applications beyond just controlling water and climate. There's no need to deny the facts.

Does Al Gore know about this?

Circuit;

I read AS long ago. In my memory it was about makers vs takers. However, some in The Gulch debate politics and Objectivism as though they are intertwined. So, I decided to reread the book and see if it was as I remembered. I still see it as talented makers vs envious, lazy, takers. I don't read politics into it at all.

I think we all know which side of the AGW argument Ayn Rand would occupy.

Objectivism and AGW, two things that don't belong in the same sentence.

We can never expect the media to run with a story along the lines of "the climate is stable, and there is nothing to worry about". Stories that sell are those that predict catastrophe, thats the way its always been, and it does not necessarily need a conspiracy. A great book on why some stories persist better than others is Virus of the Mind by Richard Brodie. It covers trivial things like urban myths, and important things like why certain ideas persist in politics or religion.

It is warmer here

Hey, CG, I resemble that remark!
I wish the earth was getting warmer. (Winter is coming in here)
history shows that the human condition (prosperity, comfort, technology, arts) benefits from warmer temperatures.
Warming is predicted by a set who select data to suit desired conclusions, make dodgy adjustments to data, sue and call for jailing of critics, hide their methods, 'lose' data, then produce models that are hopeless at matching reality. Political objectives and bandwagoning are dominant.
Cooling is predicted by models that, by using solar radiation fluctuations, match reality comparatively well.
If it were a bet, follow head or heart? nice if same same, but when there is conflict, cannot do both.

Back when that report came out we used to discuss it seriously. The theme was we are going to run out of everything, Oil, iron, copper, coal, land, .. 197x?
Did not know then that not only were they wrong but they did not care- as long as it provoked a scare.

I had borderline low magnesium too about 12 years ago. It didn't cause serious problems for me.

I eat a little better now that I'm married.

2 years ago, CG, I ended up in the hospital with malnutrition -- and I was eating too much "junk food" at the time. they pumped me so full of magnesium that I thought I was becoming a Beetle engine. so, now, I take my Mg -- and other fun stuff -- religiously, and still enjoy my Taco Bell !!! -- j

oh, Hira, I'm afraid that they're human;; the problem is that they're PC fascists -- dead set against the U.S as founded, for which Rand exchanged her life and to which I pledged mine when joining the military in 71.....
Yes, we needed to leave slavery behind, but did we need to substitute slavery of the producers for it?
your cleverness IS appreciated !!! -- j

Thank you.

Our conflicts of interest are a natural part of being human. We need systems in place for checks and balances. I eat a lot of junk food, but I resist the urge to say, "Taco Bell is probably good for me. Maybe there's a massive conspiracy by people who don't want me to enjoy life to get me to buy cheaper vegetables and fruits instead of Taco Bell. I'm going to keep thinking that until I see 100% proof positive that Taco Bell is bad for me."

Yes, I love the way you put that.

When I was young, I never heard a whimper about global warming. The preaching back then was about how man's progress would blot out the sun and bring about the next ice age.

Right, like learning about reporting the FACTS/DATA Accurately.