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Saturated Fats Do NOT Lead To Heart Disease

Posted by khalling 11 years ago to Science
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In fact the original study that proposed such has lead to a campaign of trans fat intake and higher carb intake directly linked to Type II Diabetes and heart disease. Heart Disease was not an epidemic prior to the 50s in the US. P&G who manufactured Crisco, was the major donor and mind behind the formation of The American


Heart Assn. To this day TAHA


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  • Posted by hattrup 10 years, 12 months ago
    The is a very strong correlation between the USDA food pyramid adoption and promotion in the US since the '70's and the increase in obesity and diabetes type 2.

    There is a larger % of the population, probably over 30%, that actually do not handle carbohydrates well.

    Although many low-carb (and therefore high-fat) nutrition / diet studies have been done - many results / papers are not quoted often in the med journals. And many of the results from high carb / low fat studies are miss-quoted or selectively
    (miss)- interpreted to make the "researchers" point.

    Of course there has been little fed funding for studies that are not orientated toward the USDA pyramid (which was specific originally by politicians, their aides, and lobbiests - with only
    grudging support, at best, by the weak USDA head at the time).

    The benefits of a low-carb diet, for many, has been known since the mid-1800's - and from 1920 on wrt fantastic results on kids with epilepsy (John's Hopkins has a whole pediatric branch dedicated to ketonic (low carb) diet studies and care).

    For a documented scientific review of this - check out
    The Art and Science of Low Carbohydrate Living: An expert guide to making ....
    by Phinney and Volek

    note: Individual human biology varies alot in the
    specifics (100,000 + different protein type variations, etc.) - so many can take in a lot of carbs. However a huge number really can't - and there is almost no common nutritional info taught on this.

    This new book coming out noted by khalling will hopefully help with that. There is continued huge resistance to the notion that natural fats are your friend, and the normal human diet for over a million years. Grains, starches, sugars (carbs) only enter our diet in a big way when farming started 6,000 years ago - and much of our variations are still not well adapted to it.
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  • Posted by straightlinelogic 10 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Sounds to me like you have already received empirical support. Many happy returns, and keep on enjoying life. We didn't claw our way to the top of the food chain to eat rabbit food!
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  • Posted by Walt 10 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    74 years old. Eat red meat at least 4 times a week. Potato chips whenever I feel like it, 1 bag of Halls menthols a week (I love them), a dozen fried eggs a week, 2 large cups of coffee every morning with lots of cream, 1 large Haagan-Daz chocolate every 5 days, 35 pounds over weight (which most don't believe), Pepperoni Pizza at least every 2 weeks with lot's of hot peppers, 1 gallon of Tang instant ice tea every day. I could go on and on, but I feel great, most people think I'm in my late 50s to early 60s. Just had complete blood and urine check up as well as blood pressure. Blood Pressure 120/70: no sign of diabetes, cholesterol 149 (although bad was a titch high) triglycerides right on the money. So, I am here to tell you, IT'S IN THE GENES, I was fortunate enough to inherit excellent genes and will live well until the Lord takes me home. PS also smoke 2 cigars a day. Maybe, straightinelogic I should receive some empirical support. Just sayin'
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 10 years, 12 months ago
    The famous "food pyramid" that pushed carbohydrates was derived from a study of Olympic athletes. These are people who burn more calories just breathing than the rest of us with a mild exercise regimen. For those who balk at animal fat, saturated vegetable/fruit fats, such as avocado, coconut are filling and healthy. Coconut oil (which solidifies just below room temperature) is a good substitute for butter, for those who are dairy-intolerant.

    It's always the old adage, "follow the money." The sugar industry (a really evil bunch, whose crimes have been successfully kept out of the public eye) can be depended upon to launch a vicious campaign against the latest sugar substitute, e.g.
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  • Posted by j_IR1776wg 10 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I don't know either k. A long time ago on the Atkin's diet my total Cholesterol was 287.In the last year on the Paleo diet it dropped to 183 and I'm not sure that this a good thing in terms of my CV health. I guess Aristotle's "Everything in moderation" is the best advice.
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  • Posted by j_IR1776wg 11 years ago
    If mother's milk is Nature's perfect food for mammals and mammals stop ingesting this milk at an early age, why is it then healthy for humans to ingest cow's milk products after they have stopped ingesting their own mother's milk?
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  • Posted by 10 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Although these are doctor's experiences, I did not see actual scientific study findings (regarding heart disease).
    This from the NIH:
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21068...

    Although there have been some inverse correlations, the findings are not statistically significant and some studies refute other studies' findings.

    I don't really know overall, JIR. I do know that doctors looking at gastro intestinal issues or allergies drop milk products out of the diet first.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 10 years, 12 months ago
    So the WSJ publishes exactly what the "crazy" nutritionists have been saying for 2 decades. Maybe its time to also expose the fraud of the rest of the big pharma, AMA, health insurance system of destroying the health of Americans?
    Naw, that might effect advertising revenues.
    OTOH, if the owners went short first...
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  • Posted by Macro 10 years, 12 months ago
    Paleo diet all the way!

    I've been eating lots of saturated fats in the last few years. Not a single health issue so far.
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  • Posted by 11 years ago in reply to this comment.
    JIR, some can't take it. But we have been making milk products for thousands of years and getting nourishment from it. The article is about what it does not lead to and that is we have no correlation to heart disease by ingesting butter over other types of oils. I also disagree with the way your question is set up. Cows do not cannibalize either. But we can benefit from eating protein produced by cows.
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  • Posted by straightlinelogic 11 years ago
    I have this weird idea that if I engage in really strenuous exercise six times a week for seventy minutes and eat a mixed diet of red meat, white meat, some fruits, some vegetables, some ice cream once in a while and an occasional beer that I'll be healthy. Mostly I listen to my body, which although it sounds strange, usually tells me what to eat. So far it has worked. I am thin, have low blood pressure, and I catch a cold about once every two years. If I live another thirty years (I'm 55) my radical experiment will have received some empirical support. If I die next week, then I am doing something wrong.
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