Millennials Need Capitalist Morality

Posted by DrEdwardHudgins 3 years, 5 months ago to Politics
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New surveys that seem to show millennials rejecting capitalism and for socialism. They really show a deep confusion that requires a strong dose of capitalist morality to cure.
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  • Posted by  $  Olduglycarl 3 years, 5 months ago
    In all areas we need to be taught or informed about truth, reason, logic and critical thinking.

    "The people are only as good as they are allowed to be" was a statement a boss said to me before his departure...I knew what he meant; share knowledge that will hopefully encourage people to be the best they can be and stand by for questions and clarification.
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  • Posted by ISank 3 years, 5 months ago
    Students seem ignorant of how much capitalism has done to make thier lives so very much incredible. Reason tv has done a nice piece (2 min) showing how hollywood hates capitalism. I show it to my students and then give a clear description of what free trade aka capitalism is and what it is not.
    I read a book a few moths ago called "the myth of the rational voter" and one of thoughts that the author Bryan Caplan stated that jumped out to me was how Econ teachers should think about teaching fewer concepts, but teach them better, clearer, making more connections. And I agree, my kids have heard how wonderful communities are, and the benevolent government is there for us, free markets are mocked with the fire house auction video, it is pretty funny, yet sad. They spend 20 weeks in my class and I fly through trying to cover everything.
    Good article, thank you mr Caplan, I plan on doing better.
    Aloha,
    iSank
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    • Posted by jimjamesjames 3 years, 5 months ago
      "Econ teachers should think about teaching fewer concepts, but teach them better, clearer, making more connections." BINGO!!

      My first degree (took 11 years) was in Economics but I learned more when I was pulling tankers in the gas fields of Wyoming, would get stuck on a location for days at a time and had my old text books (this was 15 years after graduation) to read and absorb without the pressure of time and tests.
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  • Posted by iamfrankblanco 3 years, 5 months ago
    I don't know if I necessary qualify as a millennial. I'm on the cusp. But I do tend to agree that my age cohort is very bitter and angry about perceived injustices with regards to money.

    However, there are also plenty of examples of people in my generation who engage in enterprising behavior and capitalistic tendencies.

    Brain Chesky, brought us AirBnB, which took the traditional hotel concept and flipped it on its head.

    Logan Green and John Zimmer, provided a very similar concept. Lyft, the rideshare service who offers a direct competition to traditional cab services.

    I could go on, I just think it would be foolish to assume that we can generalize an entire generation based on its most visible vile aspects.
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    • Posted by plusaf 3 years, 5 months ago
      Frank, consider the college kids today with their hatred of free speech, masquerading behind 'microaggressions,'
      Compound that with the hordes who believe that Life Under Bernie's Rule would be better for All Of Us.

      I don't know how to turn that ship.
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  • Posted by term2 3 years, 5 months ago
    Our country is doomed to follow the venezuelan model of stupidity. I give up on the USA completely if Hillary gets in. Trump is the only candidate who can be elected, and who will stand up and tell it like it is.
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    • Posted by  $  puzzlelady 3 years, 5 months ago
      Good grief, no. We all need to vote for Gary Johnson, and tell everyone about him, and get him into the presidential debates. Your assumption that he is not "electable" becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. Vote principles, not pragmatism.
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      • Posted by term2 3 years, 5 months ago
        Unfortunately it's NOT an assumption. He would need 50 million votes to be elected. Gulcher members are about 20,000. Do the math
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        • Posted by  $  puzzlelady 3 years, 5 months ago
          I wasn't counting just our 20,000. If we each tell 10, and they tell 10, we can go far behind our little enclave, and if Johnson can get into the debates, the whole country can hear him, and over 50% of Americans are turned off by their parties, hence their attraction to an absolute horror like Trump. You do the math.
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          • Posted by term2 3 years, 5 months ago
            Trump is a start to reversing our decline. He is saying a number of things that need to said. Not everything, but Rome was not built in a day. Look at how crooked this election process is and what trump had to do in order to break into it. He has establishment haters who.constantly are trying to destroy him and even his wife.

            The establishment wants bought and paid for Hillary. The democrats hate sanders for his anti establishment stance. The repubs wanted bush and would settle for Rubio. But trump has the voters.
            It's time to get rid of the parties' hold on the election and make the whole election just on a one person-one vote basis. Right now it's rigged to perpetuate the money and power grabbing businesses we call the repub and dem parties.
            Trump is breaking that up. He is really an outsider independent using the repubs to help him get elected

            I know you hate trump with a passion. When I saw his family on cnn town hall a couple of weeks ago, I was very impressed by his children, especially ivanka. I say the apples don't fall far from the tree, and from the look of the apples- the tree must be pretty good. It's hard to raise good kids these days.

            Anderson cooper is a real liberal ass, but trumps kids shut him down with their articulate and thoughtful answers. No bravado. No viciousness. Just very intelligent and unrehearsed and honest responses to coopers attacks. Trump himself just let them say what was on their minds.

            This is so refreshing in this world of political correctness and manipulation. If trump has done one thing, he has made it ok to speak ones mind at the time and allow free dialog. That's how we all grow and hopefully do the right thing

            It's way too early for Gary Johnson to actually get traction. The predominant philosophy is statism now and entitlement. That needs to be reversed FIRST. I think one way to start this process is to point out the failures of statism. Stop letting statists get away with manipulating us all into ignoring the failures of things like obamacare, electing people like the evil witch Hillary who will just do what her contributors want.

            It will takes long time to reverse the momentum of statism. Look at the support for sanders among the young. And sanders is an avowed socialist
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            • Posted by  $  puzzlelady 3 years, 5 months ago
              Thanks for your exposition, term2. I must correct one statement you made: "I know you hate trump with a passion." You cannot know that, and in fact I do not hate anyone. I may disapprove, disagree, feel revulsion at some individuals' actions and beliefs. Hate does not enter; hate is a self-destructive force. Or maybe you did not aim the remark at me? Coming in a reply to my comment I had to assume you did.

              If you want to reverse statism, support Gary Johnson and give him the traction he needs.

              I'm amused by your crediting Trump with good child-raising. He said in an interview that he wanted more children, as long as he didn't have to look after them.
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              • Posted by term2 3 years, 5 months ago
                Raising children is a big responsibility and it takes a LOT of time and energy. No wonder he made the comment about not wanting to look after them !

                No matter what I did relative to Gary Johnson, he isnt going to get anywhere, so why waste time and energy on him. Trump can beat Hillary, which is much more important to me now.

                I forget how you referred to Trump, but it sounded a lot like you think he would be some sort of disaster. The REAL disaster would be Hillary, and she is going to win if Trump doesnt. Forget Gary Johnson in this election. He cant get any traction in 6 months. Maybe next time if the country lasts long enough under Hillary
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      • Posted by plusaf 3 years, 5 months ago
        PL, I disagree, but for purely practical reasons...

        There aren't 'enough of us' to do that, and the vast majority of voters live in their rad-hardened Reality Distortion Bubbles and are impervious to anyone else's ideas which might disagree with theirs.

        I suspect that, if there is to be any such success like you're looking for, it must start with our minority working to educate the Young to alternative ideas that might immunize them to the shit they're going to hear in public school and college.

        I have a 'step-grandson' who's Extremely Bright and for the past few years, I've been 'brainwashing' him into the Socratic Method of evaluating "problems" in order to try to get to Root Cause.

        He's just 15, turns 16 towards the end of this year, and our 'discussions' easily run to 45-90 minutes, discussing issues he's run into at high school in talks with His peers...

        It's a joy to discuss a wide range of subjects with him, send him links and emails on a variety of topical issues and especially good to nudge him into questioning some of the extremely liberal knee-jerk beliefs he's surrounded with at home.
        One of my best friends, and we're only 55 years' difference between us!

        Find a kid and UN-brainwash them early!
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  • Posted by Herb7734 3 years, 5 months ago
    Another clear-cut easy to understand explanation of capitalism vs socialism by Hudgins. I keep sending these out to the many Millennials I know, mostly through my grandkids and also others attracted to Sanders. If I get a reaction at all, it is either a "hmm" or a "yes, but." Our generation(s) have failed to teach our younger people at least the basics of economics.
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  • Posted by Donald-Brian-Lehoux 3 years, 5 months ago
    Lets call these systems what they are; Capitalism the right to work and keep what you have earned, Socialism the right to work at a wage predetermined by the government and to support others as the government decides with your money. All other systems are basically slavery to the masters at the top of the propaganda. In case Trump changes his mind or he is screwed out of the nomination. Vote veteran someone that puts America B4 any party, we come from all backgrounds. Divide and conquer is what they do. End double standard,DC politician on Obamacare,SS mrpresident2016.com
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  • Posted by mia767ca 3 years, 5 months ago
    given the current educational system (public/govt schools molding "good citizens"), it is highly predictable that you end up with socialists graduating from such a system...until they are forced to support it as a taxpayer...my children understand what is going on, but they have a consistent uphill battle in discussions with their fellow college students...
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  • Posted by Mamaemma 3 years, 5 months ago
    If you were told from the time you entered preschool that "love" was the root of all evil, you would believe it by the time you were voting age. these kids are just indoctrinated and ignorant, but their ignorance is not an accident.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 3 years, 5 months ago
    The picture in the article reminded me of a part of the video for Handlebars, in which two happy childhood friends take diverging paths, one marked with dove (peaceful/artistic) and the other a corporate logo (evil tyrant): http://postimg.org/image/4ojhxhoy9/
    There are many images suggesting "evil tyrant" path is equivalent to capitalism and the "peaceful/artistic" path is equivalent to socialism. One of the peaceful/artistic group wears a Che shirt. We all know why this is wrong, but it's worth the three minutes to understand the view of people who wrongly equate capitalism with politically-connected corporations profiting from gov't violence.
    https://youtu.be/HLUX0y4EptA
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  • Posted by LarryHeart 3 years, 5 months ago
    Hatred of Capitalism is based in Hatred of the 'Dirty Jew' . Love of redistribution is based on the 'morality' of exiling and stealing from Jews. http://socialistevil.blogspot.com/201...
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    • Posted by plusaf 3 years, 5 months ago
      I'll be honest and blunt about this...
      Here's my retort for or to anyone who drops the "Jews control everything" meme into a conversation. I said this to one of my neighbors last fall at a party he threw for neighbors...

      "So, if it's true that 'Jews own or run or control everything,' one must notice that Jews comprise a very tiny percentage of the world's population, like maybe 4%...
      "Unless you deny that fact, the only next logical conclusion is that the other 96% are too fucking incompetent to own, run or control ANYTHING."

      Logical enough for ya?
      We're still friends. He lives four doors from me and is a CxO of one of the largest merchandise sellers in the world. Super-bright guy who learned something that night.

      Cheers, and if you've got the guts, Pass It On.
      :)
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      • Posted by LarryHeart 3 years, 5 months ago
        I am not sure what your reply is a response to other than a tangential story of someone you rebuked for manifesting the prejudice against Jews that i am saying motivates Socialism, Communism and Anti-Capitalism .
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    Posted by CircuitGuy 3 years, 5 months ago
    This line is key: "Young people, disgusted with the crony system, accept this counterfeit definition of capitalism especially, responding to the call to smash the crony system. "

    It's also interesting that they got more positive responses to "free markets" than "capitalism". Although I am 40 and not a Millennial,if they had polled me, my response to some would be governed by my lose understanding of the words:
    Capitalism - Strongly Support
    Socialism - Strongly Oppose
    Progressivism - Somewhat Support, somewhat because the word doesn't mean anything to me beyond a vague sense of being upstanding, open-minded, not blaming others for your problems, and honest. It's too broad to have meaning.
    Social Justice Activism - Strongly Support - To me the word means the work the Social Justice Committee at my UU congregation does; and I support that.

    Maybe we should ask them specific questions instead of using words that might be different things to different people. If we asked "Should the spending on US military plus all veterans benefits be more or less than the sum of our three most likely potential enemies' spending?" we might find many people support radical cuts to gov't spending.
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    • Posted by  $  Technocracy 3 years, 5 months ago
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      Quote - Social Justice Activism - Strongly Support - To me the word means the work the Social Justice Committee at my UU congregation does; and I support that.

      That position is anti-individual rights
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      • Posted by Mamaemma 3 years, 5 months ago
        Thank you, Tech. It is impossible be Progressive and for Social Justice and be a supporter of Rand.
        So why are you here, CG?
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        • Posted by CircuitGuy 3 years, 5 months ago
          " It is impossible be Progressive and for Social Justice and be a supporter of Rand."
          Why is that? As I said in my comment,
          Progressive - You'd have to nail down what you mean in this contest.
          Social Justice - I know this phrase from the Social Justice Committee at my UU congregation. They work on helping the homeless, LGBU rights, protecting the environment, reducing prison population; all things I strongly support and are consistent with the Rand books I've read.
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          • Posted by Mamaemma 3 years, 5 months ago
            CG, you need to learn that words have specific meanings. Either you are deliberately obtuse or so confused it's not worth a discussion. I do not like being insulting, but I am being truthful.
            No discussion needed or allowed.
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            • Posted by CircuitGuy 3 years, 5 months ago
              "No discussion needed or allowed."
              Indeed. Why am I here? Am I deliberately obtuse or just addled? I think it's because the website name refers to one of my favorite elements of one my favorite books. If it had been no-discussion.com, I would never have come. Talking to someone based on a URL name is a stupid reason, really stupid.
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