The Ottoman empire's holocost has been swept under the rug

Posted by $ Olduglycarl 7 years, 11 months ago to History
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Right...the muslims are peaceful loving people...
1915 to 1918 the Turkish (muslim) ottoman empire killed over 2 million Greeks, Assyrians and Armenians.
SOURCE URL: http://www.video.theblaze.com/video/v589989183/0428-glenn-beck-program


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  • Posted by $ blarman 7 years, 11 months ago
    This was one of the reasons President Obama's snub the other day was such a big deal. It is the equivalent of the Iranians' denial of the holocaust.
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    • Posted by wiggys 7 years, 11 months ago
      see this is why he said we are in peaceful times since the muslims aren't doing as much killing todat as then.
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      • Posted by $ blarman 7 years, 11 months ago
        I laughed at that - not because it was funny in a hilarious way, but because it was so satirically true. You really ought to make that into a political cartoon. Like a "Then and Now" kind of thing.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 7 years, 11 months ago
    Wonder how many the latin american drug cartels have killed.
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    • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 7 years, 11 months ago
      I'd wager not as many as the Spanish when the first arrived in this hemisphere and deliberately annihilated two or three civilizations in the name of glory, gold ang God.
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      • Posted by freedomforall 7 years, 11 months ago
        There was the spread of European diseases there, too. That may have been greater than the deliberate mayhem, as was the case in WWI.
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        • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 7 years, 11 months ago
          Perhaps, but the evidence of Spanish conquest is perfectly evident in all of South and Central America and even a portion of North America. So much so that the remains of the native population has been consumed into believing the Spaniards were blameless as well as indigenous. I encountered these history deficient pretenders first hand calling for reconquista here in Arizona.
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          • Posted by freedomforall 7 years, 11 months ago
            Wasn't trying to excuse the mayhem, AJA. there does seem to be a widespread deficiency in accurate history. Makes me think it's a deliberate program of propaganda.
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            • Posted by mccannon01 7 years, 11 months ago
              If you all want an excellent accounting of that historic period look for "The Discovery And Conquest Of Mexico" by Bernal Diaz Del Castillo. He was an officer under Cortez and this is a biography and description of events by a man who was there. The Conquistadors led by Cortez were also supported by 50,000 warriors of surrounding tribes who hated the Aztec. Keep in mind the Aztec were like a budding and expanding Roman empire only more brutal if you could imagine such a thing. They were slaughtering and enslaving in all directions. Then the Spanish showed up. Even though the Spanish knew the Inquisition, the brutality of these tribes and the Aztec in particular made them take pause. I read a story some time back that said in Cortez's journal he said after he first arrived the Aztecs sent him stretchers bearing piles of human heads of slaves sacrificed to him, since they thought he was an emissary of a god, and he said "These are an ungodly people and I care not what becomes of them". It actually took about three years to bring down the Aztecs. Cortez got his ass kicked the first time out and ran for his life down the coast.
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              • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 7 years, 11 months ago
                Interesting, I'm always up for learning some history. I'll check out the title. Thanks.
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                • Posted by mccannon01 7 years, 11 months ago
                  I ran across this book by accident in a garage sale about 8 or 10 years ago. It was printed in 1959 and when I picked it up and read the dust jacket, it made me go "Hmmm, I never knew that!", so for 50 cents I brought it home. Once I started reading it I couldn't put it down... UN-EFFing believable! A totally un-sanitized accounting from the Spanish point of view.
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    • Posted by $ jdg 7 years, 11 months ago
      Any deaths from drug related wars are effects of the drug laws themselves. Your comment is like blaming booze drinkers for the St. Valentines Day Massacre.
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      • Posted by freedomforall 7 years, 11 months ago
        The drug users weren't mentioned, only the purveyors who murder anyone who gets in the way of their illicit business. I also made no mention of the politics that created the drug smuggling "business." The murderous drug cartels are just as disgusting as the murderous banking cartel, murderous military industrial cartel, and murderous statist government cartel. They have chosen to murder the innocent in response to market conditions. There is no excuse regardless of the idiotic nature of the laws that create the demand.
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        • Posted by $ jdg 7 years, 11 months ago
          Sure there is -- the laws deny police protection to people in those businesses, so they have to defend their own property.
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          • Posted by freedomforall 7 years, 11 months ago
            And killing the innocent is required? Rubbish!
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            • Posted by $ jdg 7 years, 11 months ago
              Those who would call the police against an activity that isn't wrong are not innocent. They have merely chosen a cowardly method of using force.
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              • Posted by freedomforall 7 years, 11 months ago
                The innocent people being killed had no voice in the creation of those laws. The only reason they might call police is in a cry for help in an attempt to legally put a stop to the murders being committed by the cartel thugs.
                They are not freedom fighters. They are not acting against those who created the laws. They are murdering innocent bystanders.There is no rational defense for these murderers.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 7 years, 11 months ago
    As always... but still judge in the context of that time and their culture. Your current position is a comment on our times. You are not responsible for anything that happened before your were born you are responsible only for age of reaching majority to death. There are always innocents to one degree or another.

    Question if they support the system but take no active part are they innocent? According to the new law mere suspicion of is sufficient for both the act and any support. According to Obama and the Congress.

    Since the Muslim religion is a one system fits all for church and government and every day life purposes are their any innocents and if so then who is responsible?

    Considering their are 72 or divisions and not all are by our standards part of the kill for the joy of killing portion.

    Add to that until there is a way of separating our wheat from their chaff by our standards why are they allowed in 'en masse' while truly innocents such as yazdi, christians, bahai and others kept out by our goveernment prncipally the President and the State Department?

    And that brings me to the final point

    How innocent is any voter that chooses to keep them in power. That means Sanders, Clinton, Trump and Kasich for sure ....

    The question is one of those point one finger three are pointing in reverse and probably five on the other hand not exclusing the face in the mirror.

    An innocent question
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 7 years, 11 months ago
    That whole area was in a different time with a different set of cultures. Judging them through the lens todays cultures is meaningless. Many of the mentioned groups crossed swords with a number of empiricists. My favorite Temujin who had a way of sorting out the useful from the non useful Very Objective.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 7 years, 11 months ago
    The high school I went to had a substantial Armenian population. The band music teacher was Armenian as were several of my classmates, and I learned much about the Turkish invasion. Why? Because the hatred still existed among the descendants of that horror. The descriptions of the massacres to innocent men, women, children, and yes, babies makes any civilized person shudder. I guess things haven't changed much in 100 years.
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    • Posted by $ 7 years, 11 months ago
      There inlies the dichotomy of east verses west...for the most part they are 180° apart.
      People dis Christianity and yes, the organization of it sucks and serves to disempower but the knowledge, leanings and discussions gave us a few simple rules to live by that eventually empowered us to develop reason and logic..."Even if it came about through a rejection of the mystical misrepresentations of our bicameral pre-conscious biblical ancestors.
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