Carly and Ted: Save The Nation or Save the GOP? Both? Neither?

Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 7 years, 11 months ago to Politics
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The political pundits are going nuts. No one saw this coming, so the "experts" are falling all over themselves trying to diss it.

But Ted Cruz' race for the White House has never been about the pundits, nor has it ever been about maintaining the status quo. It's always been about one thing: the people.

Ted Cruz blew away all convention by announcing his pick for vice president early in the game. Carly Fiorina sang to the Cruz girls in her acceptance speech. He refused to play ball with the good ol' boys in Washington. She refused to remain “just a secretary” in the work force. He is a young Hispanic American. She is a strong woman. They are decidedly unconventional, and they are the team that will give us back our country.

And the good ol' boys in the media can't stand it; Donald Trump and the gang of lobbyists doing his bidding are scared stiff; and Hillary and her socialist allies have just had the wind knocked out of them.

Ted Cruz and Carly Fiorina are a gift from God to America—perhaps our last chance to fully restore the gift of liberty He so graciously provided at our nation's founding.

The Cruz/ Fiorina ticket provides the principle, innovation, and power the GOP needs to reclaim its place as the party of Lincoln and Reagan - as the party of freedom. Their unwavering belief that the Constitution provides the foundation for how to govern and for how we can live as free people is exactly what we need to survive and thrive as a nation. Their refusal to fit into the status quo; to play the game; to go along in order to get along, all exude the revolutionary, joyous spirit that we so desperately need at this point in American history. They are spunky, fun, and respectful of the rule of law. They are intelligent, experienced, and unafraid to live as real people, interacting in a deeply personal way with everyone they meet. They are full of confidence and grace; humor and wit; and they both have the fierce, competitive spirit needed to obliterate the system that has benefited power-mongers like Trump and Clinton for far too long.
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Welcome to the face of the new GOP. Welcome to what Constitutional leadership looks like.

The Cruz/Fiorina ticket is about freedom and the individual. It's about an adherence to the document that makes it possible for all of us to pursue our dreams, to have an equal voice in the process, and to be free to prosper. When Ted and Carly are in the White House, the Washington Cartel and dealmakers like Hillary and Donald, who have made big bucks from big business at the expense of the people, will be history. The aristocratic, elitist thugs that are the Clintons and Trumps of the world will be stripped of their power and will be forced to release their stranglehold on decent, honest Americans who work hard to take care of their families. When Obama and his minions are gone, Hillary and Donald will be booted out of Washington with them.

When Cruz and Fiorina win, the people win. The Constitution wins. And freedom wins.

Yes, Cruz and Fiorina are the face of the new, unconventional GOP, and the hope that a new birth of freedom occurs in America.


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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 7 years, 11 months ago
    Neither.
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      Posted by roneida 7 years, 11 months ago
      j Brenner... "Neither will NOT be a choice on our ballot. Unless we can repeal the voting right amendment that men extended to women years ago, you know damn well who will get in our White house for a 3'rd term. The Republicans totally screwed up this election by ignoring Trump and some other good candidates. Carly might not be as pretty and glamorous as Shrill Hill, but she is far more worthy. Vote for anybody except Clinton, but VOTE for God's sake and your own. People have died to give us that right and we are traitors to not use it. If 200 million Americanss vote instead of 50 million, the politicians know that many ar watching them The cowardly non voters do not deserve a voice and should be exported to Canada or some other fringe country.
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      • Posted by $ jbrenner 7 years, 11 months ago
        I will be voting for a man of reason with the prerequisite experience, Gary Johnson, as I did the last time. BTW, I didn't downvote you.

        In Nevada, none of the above is an option, but I live in Florida.
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      • Posted by $ 7 years, 11 months ago
        Do you know I believe our strategy is working.If you can't fix it destroy it and buy or build a new one. All of you who continue to entertain the idea of voting for evil are key components of that plan. Thank you.

        The Devil's Advocate Strategy first published in book form by Taylor Caldwell is consider a last gasp last ditch way to go as it let's the wrong side do most if not all the work in hastening their end. Of course to make an omelet you have to break eggs. But that's all right. Excellent mis-under standing of the situation and once again thanks for the support.

        Ballots with two vowel changes somewhere down the road make an excellent segue past revolution into counter-revolution.

        I knew and pointed out that Carly was eminently acceptable to the left wing of the left and offered an alternative to thie dilemma of Cllinton and to some degree Sanders.Nor the control issues with Trump. Not however paired with a Cruz. But think the left of the left would really care if some Jihadist style element put Carly in the Oval Office. The left would surely not shrink from a repeat performance of a successful tactic ...witness LBJ after the removal of Kennedy.

        Are you serious Michael A?

        Does a bear ...in the woods?
        Is the Pope Catholic?...Don't answer that one.

        The left got to where it is by taking their time and presenting at times a 'mothering' image. Hillary? Sanders? Trump? Not even. Carly F. along with some new improved VP even if it took four or eight more years is just right for their badly shattered image. Even Cruz then Carly works after all Cruz is a Republican and no strangere to the right wing of the left. You just might see the left save itself by en masse voting for Cruz Fiorina. After all they are all right wing of the left so what's too lose? And plenty to gain.

        A fitting end to this very weird election.






        But let's see how far this discussion will go..
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        • Posted by roneida 7 years, 11 months ago
          Vote early and often and never forget, "They are all crooks"..We just have to have enough voters on their asses to keep them looking over their shoulders to see which ones of us are watching them. Never trust a person who will spend a billion to get a job that pays 400 thousand. Good luck.
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      • Posted by term2 7 years, 11 months ago
        At least Trump tells it like it is, and is anti-establishment. Cruz and his huge 16% VAT will be a great boon to the establishment government, not to mention he will kill the economy and put a terrible paperwork burden on the businesses of this country (especially the manufacturers). In our small company, we would have to raise our prices by the 16% because we are at the beginning of the food chain. We would instantly lose our business to the chinese who would undercut us.
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        • Posted by $ Radio_Randy 7 years, 11 months ago
          People should try to remember that Patty Hearst and the SLA were anti-establishment. This doesn't prove a thing.

          Trump is good at stirring folks up (like many good union speakers), but there is absolutely NO substance to him. The guy is a joke...especially proven when John Boehner decided to back him.
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          • Posted by roneida 7 years, 11 months ago
            Radio_ Randy.. would you prefer Mrs. Clinton???Perhaps she has the "substance:" you are looking for because she is what you are going to get,, good luck with that.
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            • Posted by $ Radio_Randy 7 years, 11 months ago
              Like many who believe that voting for a 3rd party candidate is worth the try, I'm going to bet on the underdog and back Cruz. Though I might not agree with his choice of a running mate...I don't expect perfection from anyone.

              With any luck, Hillary will be indicted, before the election and I'm not really concerned about Sanders standing a chance.
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            • Posted by term2 7 years, 11 months ago
              Agreed. Its Trump OR Hildebeast. At least Trump tells it like it is, not like what her supporters want to hear. She is bought and paid for by the establishment cronies. The establishment hates Trump precisely because he isnt bought and paid for and they cant control him. We need that for once...
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  • Posted by freedomforall 7 years, 11 months ago
    Barf!
    If I had any inclination at all to vote for Cruz, he just ended it.
    Carly, a heartbeat away from the presidency?
    The horrors never end.
    Save the GOP? Why?
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    • Posted by term2 7 years, 11 months ago
      GOP is dead really. In fact, so is the Democratic Party. We should have one person=one vote and do away with primaries and the electoral college. The liberals call this a democracy, so it should be run that way. Trump and Sanders has exposed the corruption of the two parties for everyone to see, with Cruz at the crux of it for the GOP and Hillary for the Democrats with her "superdelegates"
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      • Posted by $ 7 years, 11 months ago
        The left wing socialist fascists call it a democracy so it should be runj that way? Sez who Comrade. The Party? Or just one of it's LEFT over failures.
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        • Posted by term2 7 years, 11 months ago
          My view is that the fundamental problem is that the current government has pretty much a free reign to violate our rights and redistribute our money. This means the elections become a contest to see who is going to get goodies and who is going to pay for them. If we were a true republic where our rights were protected by an ironclad constitution, elections would be to appoint good administrators and lobbyists and political parties would lose their importance. Before we can get there, a substantial philosophical revolution has to occur.and that will take time. 60 years of atlas shrugged hasn't done it yet
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      • Posted by cowboynuclear 7 years, 11 months ago
        I hate to say this gives me the shivers, and not in a good way. This government has never been a democracy, but a republic. It was done that way to give cooler heads more time to avoid the avoidable mistakes.

        Party machinations are a different thing entirely from the system with primaries and electoral college, and most of the founders knew that parties would be the downfall of the system.

        Here's my wish for a system, where the access to information is as wide spread as now: Pick 20 people at random from the citizenry roles that fulfill the age/citizenship requirements - think jury duty. Vote country wide (pref simultaneously e.g. no state before another), take top 10. Vote country wide, take top 5. Vote country wide, 50%+1vote is winner, or take top 2 until 50%+1.

        Think Zaphod Beeblebrox principle, on no account should someone that wants to be president of the galaxy be allowed to become it.
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        • Posted by term2 7 years, 11 months ago
          Then it becomes cronyism to pick those special people. So long as the government can violate rights and redistribute wealth, the system is doomed
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  • Posted by $ WilliamShipley 7 years, 11 months ago
    By picking a VP at this point, Cruz gave up the best tool he had for putting together a majority in a contested convention. He obviously did it in an attempt to win more of the 57 delegates from Indiana since it looks like Trump is going to win Indiana and extinguish even the hope of a contested convention. The idea is that the establishment will pick Cruz if he can cause Trump to fail on the first ballot.

    It's a fool's gambit in the first place. They aren't going to settle on Cruz. They'll take Kasich or maybe even put Bush back on the table.
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    • Posted by term2 7 years, 11 months ago
      Cruz is hated by the senators, and he would get nowhere if elected as president. He might as well just vote NO to any and all laws put on his desk, and stay home (hmm, not a bad idea actually).

      Cruz is a sneaky bastard, who will do anything to get the power of the presidency. Its pretty disgusting and I would NEVER vote for him.
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      • Posted by $ 7 years, 11 months ago
        Yes Comrade Term2 we know all about your constant litany of left wing hate speak. As for voting you will vote for whom the party tells you to vote. End of hate speech go back to whatever hole you crawled out of this is our country not yours.
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        • Posted by term2 7 years, 11 months ago
          I really don't know where u are coming from. The last time I looked, the "country" doesn't belong to either of us. I have voted for individuals, not the parties, for a long time. The parties do control who will be president however by controlling media and manipulation. You can argue against trump, but no matter what happens he and sanders will have exposed a lot of crookedness in the GOP and the Democratic Party. And that is good. Hillary is the poster child for the bought and paid for presidential candidate- and at least a lot of people get to see that
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  • Posted by ohiocrossroads 7 years, 11 months ago
    I would vote for a Cruz/Fiorina ticket. That would be the least worst alternative of the Republican candidates. But it doesn't really matter now, because I think Trump has the GOP nomination wrapped up.

    Haven't decided if I would vote for Trump, though. I don't trust him. He may just be a liberal sheep dressed in conservative wolf's clothing. I'll probably vote Libertarian for president, and Republican for everything else.

    If Trump turns out to be another Mussolini, I could at least say I didn't vote for him. But I'm sure that would be small comfort as I live through the coming general societal collapse.

    I wish I could vote for NOTA.
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    • Posted by $ 7 years, 11 months ago
      You can. Just register then don't vote. That way you avoid the winner take all trap. right now NOTA or the undervote is at 46% to 50% of registered voters. Turn their rigged election into a farce. Make your vote count. I'd like to see it 70-30 with the Rinos and Dinos splitting the 30. Sure they would win with zero credibility and then concentrate on the local elections ANYBODY but a Dino or a RIno
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    • Posted by $ 7 years, 11 months ago
      That just supports the left. Winner takes all means if you vote it gets counted in the winners column. Blank spaces, write ins everything. And then all you've done is creat a nits breed gnats situation.
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      • Posted by $ 7 years, 11 months ago
        And as we just found out the Winner Take all votes will mean a huge difference in Cruz vs Trump.
        In truth and this is 240 year old nation wide direct vote is not a legal vote in neither the primary nor the general election. The legal vote is as we all know the electoral college.

        What we didn't know was the two major parties actually any party controls their own candidate selection procedure.

        Democrats have their super delegtates and republicans have something called the rules committee with their challenge procedures.

        This year they are deep in planning to challenge, at the convention, the winner take all procedure.

        State law does not apply in this case. Nor does federal law.

        The complaint, and it is a valid one, is the awarding of winner take all votes denies due process by taking away a citizens right to vote for and have that vote honored for anyone of his or her choosing.

        So let's suppose Trump shows up with 55% and Cruz 45% Trump has presumptively 1237. Kasich and whomever votes in the winner take all states are divided that way.

        Nope. Winner takes all column adds up to 12% 55 minus 12 is 43 Trump is now 2% behind. The previous owners of those votes if it 's allowed award their votes to other candidates but we'll forget them to keep the math easy except they count for 12%

        43 and 45 are 88

        The rules also call for a majority not a plurality.

        Suddenly those other candidates are back in the news with some firepower. At least for deal making. First one to get Trump or Cruz to fifty percent plus one wins.

        The rest you can just dream about and watch it happen.

        Have fun. I've got some scuba diving and fishing scheduled that week.
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      Posted by term2 7 years, 11 months ago
      I think Trump will run things a lot more practically than the other political establishment hacks. In this culture, we cant expect to have a John Galt as president. If he were running, which he wouldnt want to be, he wouldnt be elected, and if he were elected he could get NOTHING of interest passed. Cruz is an establishment political hack, who is also a religious zealot. No way should he be in the position of power that he so desperately seeks.
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      Posted by roneida 7 years, 11 months ago
      Don't be a chicken coward. Uncounted Americans died so you and I can vote. Don't waste their lives for some stupiditry. If you can't vote, sell your vote to the goddamn democrats. At least your sold vote will count in the tabulations and make the politicos aware that millions are watching. Disgraceful attitude..sounds like a spoiled yuppie pose. You alone are not going to select our next chief, but enough defaulters will. Guess who it will be???
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      • Posted by $ 7 years, 11 months ago
        Ah but you didn't count the problem with the winner take all rules that was just announced. For this 24 year infantry veteran it's about time they fixed that chicken coward way of stealing my vote.
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        • Posted by roneida 7 years, 11 months ago
          Michael Aarethum... I'm not saying the system is perfect...certainly it has serious flaws, especially the electoral college B S and the thievery in the primaries, BUT I do say that non-voters have zero voice to complain because they sit on their asses and hands. It will never get fixed by drop-outs. Don't forget to vote..it might be the last election you can..
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          • Posted by $ 7 years, 11 months ago
            the 46% that are voting by not voting are voting NONE of the above and against the system. Those who give in to the system with various excuses enable the system to continue. I by the way am one of the infantry combat veterans you are not speaking for.

            Giving in to evil is a choice you must make and be responsible for. Please do not include the rest of us who take our oath of office seriously. We have the individual ability to discern all the choices and it is never over until while people take their individual responsibiity seriously and not give in to the false premise of only two wrong choices.
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            • Posted by roneida 7 years, 11 months ago
              And just how are the number of non voters counted??? I know the dems have some system but I am not believing that the omnipotent government tracks every one. If one is too uninformed to make an adults choice, write your own name on the ballot...I believe that is allowed ,, or a Disney character or a fictitious leader such as Obama...anything but get off your dead ass and participate.. stop making pompous excuses for being above the mundane , tawdry responsibility of honoring the people who gave their lives so we living could vote.. I don't care how sophisticated you believe you are. Vote ...as if your life depends on it...because it will soon will. You do not have to lower yourself to vote for someone beneath you.
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              • Posted by $ 7 years, 11 months ago
                Starting with number of eligible voters the first cut are those who don't register to vote.

                For the last seven years records of that figure has not been maintained.

                Of those; who register statistics on those who vote in any way are kept as a lump sum but not as treason why? Third Party, Splinter vote, Write Ins, Movement from one party registration to another, etc. All lumped into categories such as Winner Takes All. Even that figure is hard to find if at all anymore.

                But as for tawdry ass how many efforts are you involved in to make changes. not just talking but doing. When you get more than 24 years of infantry time you may comment. What I'm hear ing is just another couch potato and probably one working for the other side

                So in your honor this time and once again we relive the political humor of yester year.

                Ode to Prince Albert of Bore. This is one of the inconvenient truths that never goes away.

                Put it to rhyme
                One line at a time
                The election rout
                Was never in doubt

                Two centuries three decades
                Have passed in a flash
                There's been enough time
                To cry, moan and whine.

                You could have amended
                But couldn't be tempted
                Electoral still wins
                Despite tears and whims

                No matter the issue
                It flew by and missed you
                With never a question.
                What need of elections?

                The old constitution?
                There's a new substitution
                They'll tell us what's right
                Three knocks in the night

                Took your couch and your house,
                For some mooching louse.
                All that's left from the past
                Is your couch potato ass.


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  • Posted by jimslag 7 years, 11 months ago
    The country will survive no matter who wins, the GOP is eating itself with the establishment types feeding the frenzy. They cannot stand Ted but they don't want Trump and Ted is the antithesis of Trump, so they bite the bullet because all their obvious choices have floundered. Sorry, Ted may be TEA Party but the establishment is looking to blunt Trump and do whatever it takes to do that. Political theater at it's best or worst, depending on how you look at it.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 7 years, 11 months ago
    Of the candidates put forth by the GOP this year, my top three were Rand Paul, Scott Walker, and Ted Cruz. Cruz is the only one left of my original picks, but having worked at HP while Carly was CEO, this move really turns me off. Carly was an unmitigated disaster as a CEO - either at Lucent (she tanked it) or at HP (she tanked it). I don't know what Cruz thinks Carly brings to the table in all honesty. I think he would have done much better going with Marco Rubio or even Kasich. A better pick would be Condoleeza Rice or Allen West, IMO.

    I still refuse to vote for Trump, however. If he is the Republican nominee, I'm voting write-in for Donald Duck. There is little or no difference between him and Hillary Clinton, and for all "The Donald's" primary victories in the East, he'll still get slaughtered there by Hillary.
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    • Posted by jhagen 7 years, 11 months ago
      I see your comments about Carly as well founded. But how is it that you see no difference between Hillary and Trump?
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      • Posted by $ blarman 7 years, 11 months ago
        I see little difference. Both are for government-sponsored healthcare. Both want to raise taxes. Both are Easterners with Eastern values (Cruz nailed that comment). Both are clueless/disastrous in the realm of foreign policy (though Clinton clearly takes the cake). Both favor the government taking land through eminent domain to give to political cronies. They are both in favor of abortion. They are both for this transgender bathroom issue. Both favor recognition of gay marriage. Both demean and castigate women (though Clinton is worse). They both spend more time making up pejoratives about their opponents than actually focusing in policy issues. Both favor revising the First Amendment to prohibit people from criticizing them. Both think that education and healthcare are appropriate venues for governmental oversight.

        Now the differences: Trump wants to build a wall (which I support) while Hillary wants to further Obama's insane immigration non-enforcement policies. Trump is at least partially favorable toward the Second Amendment while Hillary supports prosecution of gun manufacturers (though I question the sincerity of someone who was in favor of the Brady Bill and only purchased his "lifetime membership" in the NRA two years ago). Trump hasn't actually had anyone killed, where Clinton has - and not just an Ambassador. Clinton openly disdains the Constitution, while Donald just hasn't spent any time actually reading or understanding it. Feel free to add more.

        So from a policy standpoint, I really don't see much difference between Hillary and "The Donald".

        I see this election as a make-or-break for our nation. Either we start moving back from the fiscal insanity which broke loose under Clinton and has continued to this day, or our nation will crumble and fall. We must either return to the Constitution under a leader who actually understands it, or this world will lose the greatest set of governing principles ever to be implemented. And I don't think we have another 4-8 years to get our act together.
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      • Posted by $ 7 years, 11 months ago
        Hillary is international socialism as a facade but while espousing secular sociailst progressivism works directly for what we call establishment aristocracy. Her brand of socialism is international socialism statism/corporatism and allows no private property except for the elitist ruling class.

        Trump is more national socialism or socialist corporatist/statist allows private ownership but demands strict accouontability in meeting norms.

        Both are heavily fascist in nature and one can see that or hear that in their speeches and writing. small f fascim holds as does it's Large F brother control by any means available or possible.

        both are outsiders wanting to be inside the establishment aristocracy.

        So Trump the billionaire outsider is using socialism on behalf of himself.
        Hillary is using it on behalf of herself .

        Both trying to get in with the in crowd.
        Both are being used.
        b0th are using.0ther people
        and OPM

        Have you read Ominous Parallels yet?
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      • Posted by $ 7 years, 11 months ago
        of course. One is international socialist and the other is national socialist. Both are looters of the first rank and both represent some one trying to get accepted by the establishment aristocracy.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 7 years, 11 months ago
    Michael, I agree with you for the most part. However, short of a miracle, it looks as if Trump will walk into the convention with enough votes for a first ballot win. Looking at our history, stranger things have happened at conventions, even if Cruz somehow manages to get the nomination, it will be very bloody with few left standing.
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    • Posted by $ 7 years, 11 months ago
      read my previous comment. If the left does a political raid and votes for Cruz Fiorina. Remember I'm not talking Wasserman's level but those behind the party leaders...plain old ordinary everyday establishment artistocracy.

      they rid themselves of two major political liabilities. make that three.

      they gain an avowed Democrat as VP

      They get a four year breather to distance themselves from the Obama disaster and time to reframe and rediine as they did for Bubba.

      Four or eight or faster who knows. For them it's all win and no losses considering they own the Republican party anyway.
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    • Posted by term2 7 years, 11 months ago
      If Cruz gets the nomination, the only way to not have Hillary devastate us is if Trump runs independent and he keeps Hillary from getting 270 electoral votes.
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      • Posted by Herb7734 7 years, 11 months ago
        What we are likely to see is a Trump presidential run. He could beat Clinton but once he gets into office he will find it to be tougher than he thinks. For one thing, he's not going to be dealing with people whose incomes depend on him.
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        • Posted by term2 7 years, 11 months ago
          Trump will have a tough time trying to right some of the stupid and crony wrongs done by our government lately. I think he will get the respect of other countries, will waste less money trying to support and buy off people who are our enemies, and he will stick up for the USA through getting respect instead of military action. Domestically, he cant stop a lot of the welfare, but I do think he can tone it down a bit. Hopefully get RID of Obamacare and try and free up the medical marketplaces. The biggest thing he can do is break up the establishment cronyism by exposing it. For 4 years that cant be bad.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 7 years, 11 months ago
    Bring the country back to it's founding principals that made a must go destination for many in this world and once again, empower the people to be the best they can be...tell us the truth, share the knowledge.
    The establishment can go to hell...and whether it be a real place or a metaphor...I'm sure the will.
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    • Posted by term2 7 years, 11 months ago
      Unfortunately, I think the philosophical base of the USA is so bad now that we are headed straight downhill at this point. Look at the support for Sanders (a real wack job) among the young people. Its disgusting, Cruz is just another power hungry political hack who sounds like a preacher. The thought of him being president really disgusts me too.
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      • Posted by $ jdg 7 years, 11 months ago
        I'd vote for Sanders against Trump simply because Sanders is not likely to get most of his platform enacted -- and he is one of only two candidates this cycle to mention the need for criminal justice reform. (The other being Rand Paul.)
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      • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 7 years, 11 months ago
        Fortunately he is not as you assume...I've watched and vett him and a few others for about 6/7 years now...and he is not at all like that.
        But, I will say, that in today's world...nothing is as it seems. but I still think we will again, miss an opportunity to pull it out...out of ignorance and mistrust...and that too is understandable.
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        • Posted by term2 7 years, 11 months ago
          Cruz is sneaky. He has been caught a number of times trying to get delegates to ignore the will of the people. That doesnt bode well for him as president. So if you are ignoring the will of the people, whose "will" are you bending to? With HIllary, its her "contributors". With Cruz, its more hidden, and I dont trust him.
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          • Posted by $ 7 years, 11 months ago
            You been looking in the mirror and describing what you see to categorize someone else Comrade? Soros can't be paying you you are to inept.
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            • Posted by term2 7 years, 11 months ago
              I just watch what Cruz does. He is quite good at manipulation to have gotten as far as he did. I do think he would be terrible at foreign relations, probably as bad as Obama. Foreign leaders wouldn't respect him, which would be a bad thing if he gets elected
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          • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 7 years, 11 months ago
            And I'm glad because we are not a demonocracy and the people are truly ignorant. some of which is not their fault.
            At this point, I would applaud anything that would eventually save America the way it was intended to be.
            Oh, and he's pretty much done this in the open only you won't hear that nor his reasons why in the lamestream...like I said, nothing is as it seems...that goes in both directions.
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            • Posted by term2 7 years, 11 months ago
              Cruz gives me the creeps. He is too interested in "getting the presidency at any cost". Part of the problem is that the GOP political system allows him to get away with the sneaky things At least Trump is more honest about things, which I think we desperately need. He tells it like it is.
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              • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 7 years, 11 months ago
                Not at any cost...he will not subvert the law nor the establishments rules...which at this time, is legal...but must be changed in the future, it's too late to change things now.
                Monday, on http://theblazetv.com at 5pm, you'll hear a candid conversation between friends, (Cruz and Beck), a private conversation that was taped...I think you'll see why Cruz is so passionate about bringing America back to our founding principles.
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                • Posted by term2 7 years, 11 months ago
                  he bible and constitution thumps for sure. Even if he were nominated and then was able to beat Hillary, he couldnt do anything to return us to the constitution in any meaningful way. His approach antagonized his fellow senators so much, they would not give him anything he wanted.

                  That said, its unlikely he will be nominated by the GOP anyway, and he would never win against Hillary in the general election, so its a moot point. I am voting for Trump because if he wins against Hillary, she will be DONE for politically forever, which is a good thing.
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                  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 7 years, 11 months ago
                    How we make this change is up to us...recalls, better vetting, better candidates...holding their feet to the fire.
                    Many think the fix is in and the kakistocracy and the media will make sure, "Hook and by crook" hiltery gets in...so, as you say...it very well may be a mute point.
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                    • Posted by term2 7 years, 11 months ago
                      I do think that a LOT of people are tired of the delegate process in both the primaries and the general elections. Stupid me- I used to think that the two parties were actually a part of the election system. Now I see they are just private marketing businesses out for money and power, and we, the electorate, dont need them anymore. Social media and the internet have made them useless and contraindicated. Hopefully, the whole idea of Democratic and Republican will fade into the sunset- to be replaced by just voting for whoever can do the bet job period.
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  • Posted by $ 7 years, 11 months ago
    A lot of conjecture but there are alternative explanations. The piece above covers two.

    Let's look at a third.

    Save the establishment GOP might well be the title of the third or some flavor thereof.

    Fiorina is still what she was and establishment outsider. Ted is still what he was a former libertarian

    Both are eminently more acceptable than anyone else in the race all of them unacceptable sociaists of one flavor or another. ALL OF THEM

    Is this the acceptable lesser evil you've been looking for? Given the alternative I'm inclined to agree. If for no other reason than to damage the two 'presumptive' pure left wing candidates.

    We'll have to see how much comes out now the rah rah phase is over. Anything solid. Anything one can believe in. Anything useful. The second law of objectivism has both of them under it's microscope. Besides the view is better than the three specimens discarded.
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    • Posted by jabuttrick 7 years, 11 months ago
      When was Cruz a libertarian? I must have missed that. Was it when he advocated for the government telling women when or if they can have an abortion? Or was it when he advocated that the War on Drugs be vigorously prosecuted? Or when he promised to make the sand glow by bombing in the middle east?
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  • Posted by starznbarz 7 years, 11 months ago
    Several folks here have mentioned they admire Trump for "telling it like it is" so did Obama. Still others like the fact hes a businessman, how does that stack up against Constitutional limitations on the executive? Are those folks O.K. with another president acting outside their authority because its for something they agree with? Where does it stop? At what point would they say - no more, thats too much? If the next president is allowed to act as Obama has, there will be no going back. Consider our Founding documents, consider the rule of law as it applies to the three branchs of government - consider who has acted in a Constitutional manner for a long period of time, then consider what the other guy was doing and saying for that same period of time. Consider that congress is quite capable of blocking any actions of a president they dont like - that doesnt have the armor of race to protect him. Consider how a true Constitutional scholar, respectful of his limitations could bend them to the Founders intent.
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  • Posted by ChuckyBob 7 years, 11 months ago
    At this point "None of the above" has my vote. I really think that "None of the above" is the best candidate. No matter who wins, unless a sane individual comes riding in on a white horse before the election, I need to start looking closer at moving.
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    • Posted by $ 7 years, 11 months ago
      Register, Don't Vote In The General election you have just voted for none of the above. IT's all Rinos and Dinos anyway.
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      • Posted by ChuckyBob 7 years, 11 months ago
        What I would rather do is start voting third party, which some would consider throwing away my vote, but I think it would send more of a message than just not voting.
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        • Posted by $ 7 years, 11 months ago
          Either that or go with the NOTA movement and don't vote in General and increase the under vote. All valid methods. but don't give uip quite yet the GOP Rules Committee has yet to accept all of Trumps claims of winning. and are planning on not accepting any of the winner take all votes.

          In this case the States have zero power as does the popular vote and the parties have all the power in selecting their candidates.

          The winner take all system is nothing more than a violation of due process and a way to invalidate legal ballots by twisting a no vote into a yes vote for certain candidates.
          GOP Rules committee have already publicly stated they are not going to accept those stolen votes. which meand Trum won'nt have 1237 but be a bit behind Cruz.

          As for the self proclaimed spokes perSON for the left wing socialist fascists. the only question is it a national or an international socialist for sure it is not an American with a case of vomitas spewus.
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  • Posted by cjferraris 7 years, 11 months ago
    As much as I respect Cruz's knowledge of the Constitution and his willingness to fight for our freedom and liberty, as a country, we are at a crossroads because we NEED a successful businessman to run this country. We've had so many years of people that have not been in business before becoming Commander In Chief and then we get that much further away from having an economically viable country. We only have people in office that think the taxpayers are their own personal building and loan (to quote a famous movie) that we have made too many promises we can't keep. I'm not a fan of Trump because he's that warm fuzzy guy that I'd like to watch a movie with, but I do realize that he's what this country HAS to have to right the sinking ship.
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    • Posted by $ 7 years, 11 months ago
      180 degree wrong he's a left socialist corporatist fascist of the national socialist variety and a looter pirate. he's exactly what this country does NOT need right now.

      We need a constitutionalist and dump his socialist crap.
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    • Posted by term2 7 years, 11 months ago
      I think Cruz just bible thumps and constitution thumps, but what he really wants is pure power. He is sneaky and does anything he can to win- to hell with the voters.
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  • Posted by term2 7 years, 11 months ago
    Cruz is a power hungry politician. He wants to be president at ANY cost, and you can see his desperation showing through. He is playing the woman card, period. Womanhood is NOT a qualification for presidency, nor is black skin as we found out. THATS what Trump meant when he said Hillary wouldnt get 5% of the vote based on her abilities and platform if she were a man (removing the woman card)
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