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Atlas Shrugged II critique by LetsShrug

Posted by LetsShrug 12 years, 8 months ago to Movies
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First of all I want to send out a HUGE thank you to EVERY person involved in bringing Atlas Shrugged to the big screen, especially right now when so many need to be awakened. NOW is the time and you've nailed it! So thank you, thank you, THANK YOU!

I was only disappointed in one thing while watching this movie: The size of the audience. Granted it was a 10:10am showing on a weekday (Friday), but I had really hoped for a bigger bunch of producers to show up. We were there with approx 60 others.

I didn't expect the movie to begin with the flight/chase scene, and for a split second I questioned that decision, but then I realized that it sucked in the viewer, making them thirsty for answers for who, what, why, where, and when is this happening? Brilliant!

I think a great job was done to tie in the details from the previous chapter (part I). Just a few words here and there were enough for the first time viewer to catch up with the present events.

The speeches: Hank Rearden in court, and Francisco d'Anconia at James and Cherryl's wedding, were cut incredibly short, but the main points were still made.

The new cast members, although older, were well cast. Particularly Patrick Fabian (James Taggart), and Kim Rhodes (Lillian Rearden).

The “bum” on the train's character was completely changed, the snowstorm, when the train stalled, was left out, and Dagny made her way to the airport, (where she buys a plane to fly to Utah to try and catch Quentin Daniels), in a truck, rather than on foot, but again, it didn't diminish the story line.

I am left with only one question. I know this is petty, ridiculous, silly, and unimportant, but I have to ask. In the part where Dagny is at their family cabin and she's cleaning up and chucking things off the front porch she heaved/dragged a perfectly good (as far as I could tell) adirondack chair into the front yard. Why? What was wrong with that chair? Okay, okay, it was HER chair she can throw it in the junk pile if she wants to...it just bugged me a little. I know I'm just nitpicking, but I wasn't convinced that she was “cleaning” at that point. I liked that chair. :(

All in all the movie is a MUST-SEE and I will tell everybody I know to go see it and I hope it has a tremendous turn out. We need it.


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  • Posted by cdoutre 12 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I assume that Fisker provided the car for free and possibly even paid the producers to use it in the movie. I noticed that ironic and jarring image too. In a way, the Fisker is an appropriate car for Dagny in that it's high tech. Of course that in no way excuses the fact that this car was developed with $529 million in federal loan guarantees. But wait; that loan is in trouble: http://tinyurl.com/8fym96o
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  • Posted by editedforbias 12 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Agree on Ragnar Danneskjöld, I think a few simple hooks would have teased the connections a bit. One the mention of three students that might be able to help with the engine...but now one is a pirate, one a playboy and one has disappeared and his name is used to mean despair and nothingness. Could have worked it into Prof Pharis b4 Quentin. And again when Fransisco stages the accidents, he could have mentioned an attack at sea and then show the pirate attack and sinking (or confiscation) of his ship, flashing newspaper headlines with the name for the uninformed.

    I think the introduction of Project X would have been confusing without full context. I think it will fit well on it's own as the next phase.

    I still missed the newspaper salesmen and the "hustle and bustle replaced by fear". I actually loved the replacement of the stow-away as the engineer with the hat (I need to get that hat, he says wearing the ASII hat). Loved his linkage to Fransisco previous and Dagney's puzzled yet forming reaction.

    It is tough to create all the linkages and drop the hints without the written word. This connection to Galt was well done but I missed Ragnar....DVD edition:)

    Ready for III, right now. Shrugged Marathon time in 2014. Required attendance for looters to receive govt assistance...(too far?)
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  • Posted by $ bigjim 12 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Hopefully, all of us geezers are making our kids and the young people we know aware of Atlas Shrugged and Ayn Rand.
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  • Posted by WesleyMooch 12 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Morgan Freeman would have been a good choice, considering the steep upward slope of the cast's age -- that is, before he lent his voice-over for a recent campaign ad to the Obama deception.
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  • Posted by winter 12 years, 8 months ago
    I finally got to see AS this past staturday , this was a noon showing . The theater was maybe 20 % full, butr the disterbing for me wes the age of the audience. The people I saw were in there 40's and up. I left with 2 other people that were older then myself 61 , they were in their 70's at a guess I said to bad it's us geezers seeing this I would like to see many more young(er ) people. Any thought's about bringing in that younger audience ?
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  • Posted by Temlakos 12 years, 8 months ago
    I enjoyed the show, too. Anyone who didn't read the book, will find a fast-paced thriller with a lot of homages to today's politics. Like Hannity and Beckel (who portrayed themselves exactly according to the types they have long established). And the protester who carves a tombstone for America in a discarded varnished bookshelf.

    But why does Ragnar Danneskjöld rate *no* mention? Nor Project X?

    And: Eddie Willers is a completely different person. What do you suppose the producers will do with him in Part 3?
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  • Posted by mbonge 12 years, 8 months ago
    Really enjoyed the movie. It was also great to see some young people at the theater as well.

    I appreciate the concerns over the chair at the cabin and it did strike me as odd, however it was blown away by my concern over the car. Fisker? Really?

    I need some help understanding why it was tauted in the credits as well. I need to understand how a Fisker fits the ideals of the book and presumably the movie. I am not a US only type, so I will not pick on the amount of animation completed in red
    China, but somebody needs to explain to me why a government mooching auto like the Fisker made it into this movie. Oh well, at least it wasn't a Government Motors.
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  • Posted by 12 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    She did seem exasperated most of the time, but it was an exasperating situation throughout. The next cast WILL be interesting. I don't really mind the new cast thing in each chapter. I think it's kind of a neat idea, even if it is due to budget problems. Not a biggie to me. I'm pretty sure their ages won't jump another 2 decades in III tho. Or Ellis will be on oxygen, whoever plays him.
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  • Posted by WesleyMooch 12 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I read somewhere that not only is I to II continuity taboo, but we can expect all new faces in III as well. (And as you'll read below, perhaps this isn't such a bad idea).

    If trends continue, are there enough walkers and canes in Hollywood to supply the actor corps of III? If Dagny goes from strong and svelte in I to sad sack (please tell me Mathis is capable of any expression other than hangdog?) and unfit in II, maybe the next is a Sheriff Andy Taylor's "Ain't Bea?"
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  • Posted by 12 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Ah. Sorry. All I could come up with was Bob Beckel and that was just plain annoying. I agree, he was quite the believable Ellis. Well cast. Perhaps he'll (Beckel) will resurface in part III. Or are original cast members a taboo at this point?
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  • Posted by WesleyMooch 12 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Graham Beckel played Atlas I's Ellis Wyatt, the most believable character in the film.
    As to your nephew's name, a hoot indeed.
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  • Posted by WesleyMooch 12 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Hey, LS, we could pump this puppy back up to #1 on the Hots. That would be a first. P.S. I just noticed the uttering of your initials sounded like "Ellis." And I do hope the new one is half as good as Beckel.
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  • Posted by WesleyMooch 12 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Was there an edition of Atlas Shrugged in which Henry Rearden's name was misspelled thoughout? Baffling.
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  • Posted by Sallyb 12 years, 8 months ago
    I enjoyed the movie as well. Went to a late Friday night show and only had a few dozen people there:< I was the only one in a Galt's Gulch tee shirt$ Love Beghe as Hank Reardon and thought his shortened speech was very good. I think the new Dagny is a more correct age, but she didn't come off as confident as I imagined due to several times when she looked almost scared. I also didn't get her throwing out the chair at the cabin. I know she used the physical labor at the cabin as her only way to be productive, which showed how the government was hobbling all the producers. I don't think the pain that limiting herself to gardening caused her was portrayed very well. She just looked angry.

    Thought the flying scenes were nifty, a la Top Gun. Can't wait to see how Galt is portrayed. His voice seems much more gravelly than I imagined. I'm really looking forward to part 3, since that's where all the good stuff happens!
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  • Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 12 years, 8 months ago
    Hello LetsShrug,

    Thank you for the excellent review. I enjoyed the movie Saturday night with a small party I brought with me. As is the case with every movie made from a novel I have read, I recognize the sacrifices that must be made for a screen play, and in this case the adaptation was as well as could be expected. The theatre was almost full. The crowd made rather primitive snarls at the dialog “…Capitalism doesn’t work without government…” My friends enjoyed the movie, and like last time tried to extract answers from me about what happens next. I again repeated, “read the book, or wait till the next installment.” They are not sated. I fear the cliff hanger endings might cost me some friends if A is A doesn’t come out soon! LOL

    So now I am impatiently waiting for the DVD release date and the premier of the final movie!

    I know that this may be a bit pre-mature, but I must ask, when is the estimated release date for DVD sales and is there a preliminary estimate for the premier of the final movie? I can’t think of a more disappointing possibility than failing to make the final movie! I must have it!

    Regards,
    O.A.
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  • Posted by ssnyh 12 years, 8 months ago
    I watched on Saturday (smattering of people in theater), and I'd have rather: 1) Disappearances like Halley to not be as pronounced; 2) Lillian from Part 1 (she seemed to emulate the one in the book better); 3) Back story (that makes up a large part of the book).
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