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I found my Kipling

Posted by $ johnrobert2 12 years ago to Books
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While beginning the throes of packing for our impending move, I came across my 1900s copy of Kipling verse. And, yup, the front cover shows a hakenkreuz as a motif.


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  • Posted by Robbie53024 12 years ago
    This was a symbol appropriated by the Nazi's, but existed long before their reign of evil. Any use prior to then is not indicative of anything related to Naziism. However, the association of that symbol with such evil should remove it from subsequent use just to ensure that there is no linkage with that evil.
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  • Posted by Eudaimonia 12 years ago
    That was from an era before the symbol was co-opted to mean Aryan supremacy.

    I believe in that era it meant either strength or harmony.
    But I can also see how it would be a little disquieting.

    A few years back, my wife and I attended a theater performance featuring traditional Chinese culture (Pre Mao's Cultural Revolution).
    There was this one piece where the dancers were moving around the stage while holding large pieces of paper, each with a swastika printed on it.
    90% of me was aware that the symbol meant something else to their culture.
    5% of me was uneasy.
    5% of me was reminded of "The Producers" piece "Springtime for Hitler".
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  • Posted by $ 12 years ago in reply to this comment.
    I already knew the derivation of the swastika. Its presence on the cover of the book was in no way disquieting.
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  • Posted by $ 12 years ago in reply to this comment.
    I have no idea what your eventual destination was in this. Your post was apropos of nothing, a complete non sequitur to the subject of the thread. If there is a congruency, please let the rest of us know.
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  • Posted by lrbeggs 12 years ago
    Must have missed the discussion. Just looked up "hakenkreuz"...
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