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Sustainability Isn't Sustainable

Posted by khalling 9 years, 1 month ago to Philosophy
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this is a duplicate post. However, on Earth Day, I wanted to remind everybody that it should be "Man Day"
is it a coincidence Earth Day is Lenin's birthday?

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  • Posted by johnpe1 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    I got a saab 900 and ran it for 22 years -- average
    total cost per month, including fuel (37 mile round-trip
    commute) and oil and service and insurance::: 200
    dollars per month. . whatta bargain! -- j
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  • Posted by johnpe1 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    we have an artistic member of the gulch here ... who
    does them beautifully. . nonMoochingArtist or some
    such name ... great fun! -- j
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  • Posted by Owlsrayne 9 years, 1 month ago
    Sustainability is a farce, is a static world and we will perish because of it. We must venture into outer space if the human race is to survive. individualism to discovery of other realms. We can include the oceans in this endeavor too. But that is only temporary fix. In our own planetary systems there planets and moons to terraform. If the technologial countries or entrapenuers could build a joint venture to push the envelope of technology so in a few short years we could be living on the moon and Mars.
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  • Posted by khalling 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    my point being, let's come up with a "cheaper" alternative. It will still be taxed, and the govt will just think they can raise the level of the tax rate because the alternative is so inexpensive! you won't win, you know :)
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  • Posted by khalling 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    I LOVE it! I hope your work was at least somewhat responsible. that would be a satisfying feeling. I've never had such luck :(
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  • Posted by dbhalling 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    You always make this blanket statement but never provide any evidence. Your farming example was incorrect and shows slipshod thinking
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  • Posted by dbhalling 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    The limitation on growth is not the physical world it is man's imagination - his ability to invent new things. Oil was just an unwanted contaminant on land until human intelligence made if valuable. Fast food restaurants use to have to pay people to cart their waste oil away, now they have to lock up their waste oil because someone figured out how to use it as diesel fuel. The stories go on and on.
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    As the organizer of a petroleum seminar series in the 1990s, I can tell you that we have at least 200 years of fossil fuels at current consumption levels.
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    There are ways to deal with the CO2, but coal extraction will get harder. The two leading coal companies in the US have both filed for bankruptcy this year.
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  • Posted by johnpe1 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    when I encounter them, I highlight them and do a
    control-c copy, and then put them in a microsoft word
    file which I call "new words." . then, I can copy them
    back like I did above. -- j

    πŸ’°βž€πŸ“©β˜€βžΉβ˜ΌπŸ™Œ !
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    All that summaries the situation clearly. Coal will last longer than 50 years, but it has its problems. I'm confident viable alternatives will be found.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    According to people who seem to study these things, there are (were?) evil angels. Lucifer was one. Lots of his followers in DC.
    So, here's to tap dancing pin heads, may they rot in hell.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    There are no angels in Washington. Of those that are there they can all tap dance which is why they can't wear glass slippers and they are all pin heads. That took me less than 100 seconds.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Great answer!
    It took them around 100 years. And then, I think they gave up.
    Of course in Washington, the question might be how many pin heads can dance like an angel?
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    But they still limited the amount each of those days? That was cold. Might of been dock space. Go up the Delaware one refinery on the Delaware side then not much. Nothing on the Atlantic side so then north Jersey side and one up by Brighton Beach somewhere. Fear Pear inside the hook doesn't count that's military deliveries.... Really isn't a lot of off load especially for crude. Mostly all offload for finished products gas, diesel, JP for aviation and some fuel oil in the cold months. Not eve sure about LPG
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