You have nailed this spot on as you always
do!! My thoughts exactly....

Ho-hum.....lah-de-dah.....

Exactly, Kira was main character from We, the Living.

Very succinctly put !

Someone should have warned Bundy against taking an interview with the NY Times without a lawyer present.
He made a tactical error that could be critical.
It shouldn't be so, but the USA is full of bad laws and perverted media that would twist the truth instead of using sense that was common prior to 1970.

Exactly right.
As I said in a previous post, the take away from this is - *never again* should anyone in the Liberty movement *ever* speak to the press.

I think, as Kira has said, his point is valid, just inarticulately put.

Libertarians and Conservatives of African descent have long been making the comparison of the Democrat Dependence State to the Plantations of the Antebellum South.

Cliven Bundy did no different.

We have no "media" in America any longer.
We have Pravda and Izvestia.
We have state-controlled mouth pieces.
We have ideologues with talking points, templates, and narratives.
Such people see a man like Cliven Bundy and are not interested in truth, they are interested in playing gotcha.

We have no journalists, we have entrapment artists for the state.

The take away from this is - *never again* should anyone in the Liberty movement *ever* speak to the press.

ok. you make great points. I don't think the word "negro" is the sticking point. My effrontery comes at the better off picking cotton (which is mostly a mechanical process today). better off as slaves. well, I think slavery has morphed, but no one is better off as a slave...unless you were an irish immigrant....

As far as I can tell, no one "entrapped" Bundy. He's not all that elderly (he's 67), and appears reasonably articulate when expressing his views.

My previous comment did not relate to the standard I want, they relate to the damage his remarks did to his own cause. Former supporters are now having to distance themselves from him and are playing defense, rather than being able to keep the public focus on government overreach.

I probably grew up in a different America than you did - Georgia in the 1950's. Bundy's remarks reminded me of that era. No way would I want to go back.

CBJ, with respect, even if he is a die hard klansman, even if he is dead nuts guilty of what the Feds assert, is this the standard we want?

If you owe back taxes, and we can paint you as a racists, then expect SWAT teams and gunships rather than a warrant?

Of course the Left played the race card, it's all they have.

And of course, Bundy muddled it up with his words, the Left expected as much.

Is the standard now to entrap the elderly and poorly spoken?

If so, that's not the place I grew up thinking America was.

The more I think about it the more pissed I get.
These leftist bastards screaming "racist" are in fact themselves *agists*.

Cliven Bundy is an old man.
He does not live in the world of the modern PC hipster.
The "newspeak" shibboleths of our hipster ruling class elude him.

I live with an elderly man.
He still speaks of Jack Benny and Rita Hayworth as if they were household names.
The world now is very different from the one in which his vocabulary was formed.

The elderly *should not* be vilified for the words they choose: there was a time when "negro" was a polite, non-racist term.

Instead, we should further question *this* society in which deviation from whatever the currently accepted "newspeak" is - is justification enough for the hipster class to say that unreasonable force is deserved and just.

I'm disgusted.
So now our elderly must shut the fuck up or be sacrificed on the insatiable altar of the left.

Monsters, cowards, despicable people.

"No, I Don’t Care if Cliven Bundy Is a Racist"

I do. His comments have totally muddied up the issue and given priceless intellectual ammunition to his opponents, and you can bet they will use it with great success to smear all of his supporters regardless of their individual philosophical positions.

How can one effectively defend the fundamental rights of a man who, according to newspaper accounts, questions whether members of an entire race might be "better off as slaves" (i.e., persons without any protected fundamental rights)?

I think a lot of people who might have taken Bundy's side will now be turned off by his remarks. The depth of public support for a cause depends to a great extent on the overall views of its leading proponents. How effective would Ayn Rand's novels have been if her heroes' private views had been inconsistent with the philosophy she was espousing?

Interesting middle name..... :) And she's right on..it IS a distraction. I loved the ring the dinner bell part. lol

yes. well spoken woman. I'm listening to more of her videos right now

Oh duh...and her first name too.

This gal gets it. Somebody send her an invite to the Gulch.