Can Individualism Cure Loneliness?

Posted by DrEdwardHudgins 3 years, 6 months ago to Philosophy
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Loneliness can lead to serious health problems. But the communities we choose must serve us as individuals.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 3 years, 6 months ago
    I wonder if communities and relationships based on selflessness actually cause a form of loneliness.
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      Posted by XenokRoy 3 years, 6 months ago
      Cherryl Brooks from atlas shrugged is an example of exactly this. As she realized that her husband was not of the same cloth that she was she became very lonely. It is in my opinion why she flipped out and committed suicide.

      When the reality around you is not in line at all with what reality should be, it is lonely unless you have others that share your views to live in it with.
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    • Posted by 3 years, 6 months ago
      I suspect yes. To begin with, individuals are alienated from themselves. They don't attend to their own aspirations. Imagine Peter Keating in The Fountainhead, who enjoyed art early on but gave it up for a profession that he didn't particularly like but that his mother and "society" thought would be prestigious--""prestige" meaning would get the approval of others. Peter ended up truly lonely inside.
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      • Posted by 77nomads 3 years, 5 months ago
        I disagree. I don't think so much alienation but having to fit in with a social construct whether it fits or not with how a person views the world or must simply fit in in order to thrive, or survive. We all work to our own ends. Each persons world is built by actions or lack of action, both with intent for a result. As a young man I grew up with them or rather grew out of them.
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  • Posted by roneida 3 years, 5 months ago
    There are worse things than being alone and if you meet some of the people . I have known, you will know what they are. Spend time with yourself , you will always be the best friend you have.
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    • Posted by 77nomads 3 years, 5 months ago
      That is not quite right although I agree with you generally. Taking time to spend with others teaches about your self. Seeing the moment, you can positively impact anothers life even if just a gentle push. Takes time but it does work miracles at times.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 3 years, 5 months ago
    Humans are social animals, but the unending presence of even good company can be suffocating. It's healthy for children to learn to be happy with their own company, so they can be prepared for those instances when they may be alone, having to rely on their own ingenuity and skills. An individual that can be happy by himself is a healthy, productive member of society.
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    • Posted by 77nomads 3 years, 5 months ago
      I spent years alone as a child. That is BS about being healthy. I cut wood and fed my self like a dog from what I was left and feeding a large pack of dogs.
      "An individual that can be happy by himself is a healthy, productive member of society."
      Great comment but doesn't help much becoming a parent to a child. Your writ is a platitude about something you clearly have no idea. I can say straight out it takes many years to undo years of neglect as a child to become a person of worth and spirit.
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  • Posted by jdg 3 years, 5 months ago
    Individualism can cause loneliness, at least insofar as it teaches you that a lot of people are not to be trusted.

    This is one of the good reasons to form a Gulch.
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  • Posted by  $  Stormi 3 years, 5 months ago
    One can be more alone with the wrong group of people than they ever could be by themselves. Today, kids are taught they must always be with or connected to peers. That is not healthy. People require a certain amount of alone time, to connect with who they actually are and what they actually believe. Individualism does not mean isolation, but interaction that is authentic to self. If one can pull that off, then they are never alone, be they with or without humans, with animals or with nature - they will be content and authentic.Loneliness and boredom are self created.
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  • Posted by johnpe1 3 years, 5 months ago
    I have always felt strongly that while some yearning
    for interaction with others is natural -- which makes
    loneliness natural -- the healthy among us are comfortable
    while alone. . we can rejuvenate and create personal
    values for future exchange. . we can ponder and
    rest for competition. . we can simply enjoy reading
    or music or study, and be all the individual we can be!
    yes, it's a cure -- the cure! -- j
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  • Posted by Herb7734 3 years, 5 months ago
    I remember my early 'teens. (Yes, I can remember that far back). The hormones were kicking up a storm and I was feeling a confusing whirlwind of emotions. I felt a strong sense of alienation from my parents and others except for a few friends who seemed to be going through the same craziness. Loneliness was the answer. I doted on it. I embraced it. I even tried convincing myself that Howard Roark must have been consumed by it. Such poems that read as follows fed into my angst.
    "We'd free the incarcerate race of man
    That such a doom endures,
    Could you but unlock my skull,
    Or I, creep into yours."
    Then one day, I was sitting in a friends home and we were discussing our tragic lives when the friend raised the option of suicide. I walked into his kitchen and took out the biggest knife I could find, and we contemplated it for a while, as we sat in a nicely furnished home filled with every convenience available in society up until that time. And then...(pregnant pause) we both burst out laughing.
    I realized then, as I do now, that I never feel lonely. Perhaps I'm some kind of a psychopath but my brain keeps me busy even in doctor's waiting rooms. I have come to believe that loneliness is a voluntary state of mind.
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    • Posted by johnpe1 3 years, 5 months ago
      when I attempt to remember my early teens, it becomes
      apparent to me that the loneliness I felt was instead
      avarice for the company of particular people, like the
      young woman who introduced me to Rand. . we talked
      for hours; we even had a date. . I couldn't get enough
      of her. . then, she went on to marry someone else.
      I was the first person to leave the church, searching
      for freedom from her. . nope. . and now, 52 years
      after I met her, there is still a sense of loneliness
      for that young love as I talk with her for 7 minutes
      on her birthday each year. . the old avarice lives on! -- j

      p.s. her birthday was the 19th of april.
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  • Posted by  $  MichaelAarethun 3 years, 5 months ago
    It's sometimes more expensive when buying for one very hard to find and cook in individual portions one could gain weight eating up the extra amount.

    It also leads to holding internal conversations. One either leaves out half, either pros or cons and there is no one to be the judge. Single handing a boat I found myself talking to myself the first half of the trip Then added a third character but I didn't like his decisions so fired him in mid transit and hired another....

    Really

    True

    But getting back to the meat of the health problem buy meat with no bones. getting rid of that extra weight often more than makes up the higher price. And a smaller portion takes care of the weight issue...

    Last point. with or without company one is still an individual....
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  • Posted by wiggys 3 years, 5 months ago
    if one is alone are the suffering loneliness? if one is in the presence of others can't they be suffering the feelings of loneliness? individualism is not a cure in my opinion, however, it can help.
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    • Posted by  $  allosaur 3 years, 5 months ago
      "One can be lonely in a crowd," old dino heard my mother say when I was in my 20s.
      We were discussing one of my brothers who found a job in Chicago, but he only stayed there for about three years before finding a better job that moved him to Atlanta. .
      That brother told me no one in Chicago talks to each other. Not ever. Not even on subways.
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  • Posted by chad 3 years, 5 months ago
    It is lonely sometimes realizing that very few share the morality of freedom to choose. Even those who claim they are 'conservative' choose varying layers of socialism-violence enforced behavior. Choosing the wrong companions can make it worse. I spend most of my time alone but fortunately have wonderful children to share my time with. We do seek the company of others but choosing a companion unwisely can be the worst form of loneliness.
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  • Posted by 77nomads 3 years, 5 months ago
    Children of a common mind. Understand Ayn was traumitized by her experiences in life and forced her into a way of thought. Her book changed my life and way of looking at things. She came to see life was just difference between mud and dirt. She taught me to find there is a much broader world view. It isn't fun but this idea of staying hidden and *f everyone else only compounds the problems. Ms. Rand did not go small and hide. She was fierce and honest as we all should be. I see many "from the basement" posts here. Highly "smart" posts.
    This is nonsense and not how free men and women live. Ayn lost the concept of spirit as it was beaten out her. Super smart and logical and a generally good girl. She was just a girl who escaped and recognized evil.
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  • Posted by 77nomads 3 years, 5 months ago
    It's important to realize each moment in human contact that you recognize you are a part and even a small piece of them. One is not separate no matter how hard we try. Subtle physics or spirit, we are all connected. Like gravity its rather difficult to escape.
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