The pandering to the left by people like Rand Paul, Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity granting a moral sanction to the anti-Bundy smear campaign, beating their chests in an irrelevant opposition to "racism", represents a moral cowardice that has caused a worse political impact for themselves, as well as Bundy, than anything the left could have done in its own dishonesty.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014...

http://p.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/a...

They have also positioned their own anti-tea party Republican establishment opponents to take the dishonest 'I told you so line':

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014...

All they had to do was tell the truth and take the offensive against a smear campaign and it would have exposed the leftist tactics for what they are. Instead they have helped the left create a much larger diversion and misrepresentation of an issue they don't want people talking and thinking about.

More on this whole issue in the previous day's posts on Bundy: http://www.galtsgulchonline.com/posts/76...

Pathetic. These people have their heads up their bung holes. There is not one rational comment being made by any person in the MSM. The people that Bundy supposedly outraged, aren't. They realize what he clumsily tried to express; that freedoms for all of us are being stripped away using fear and other coercive tactics. The herding of the sheep has begun, and he knows it! He's trying to get people to open their eyes! Wake up and fight back, before that time is gone, irretrievable.

You seem to be implying that the "white power structure" is injecting those poor blacks with drugs so that this "white power structure" can hunt them down? Would you please stop with the guilt trip already?! As if those taking and selling drugs are not responsible for their actions and it's all "society's" fault. They take or sell drugs, they get caught, they go to jail. Dont want to be in jail - dont take or sell drugs. Pretty simple.

Beck is also smearing Bundy for blowing him off when his "faith editor" called him. http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/04/...

Bundy is in a minority. So are all the other property owners in rural areas across the country who are under attack by the viro pressure groups using government to take over their land. The viros appeal to scenic imagery and 'save-the-planet' rhetoric in order to emotionally manipulate those in the more populated areas, who don't understand the rural population, into supporting the agenda for government control of the land for preservationism under the name of "protection" of the land from human use.

This is a very big problem. The pressure groups -- from the Sierra Club to Audubon to the Center for Biological Diversity (which is responsible for the attack on the Nevada ranchers) and many more -- have a lot of money, political connections, and PR and legal expertise, and the rural people have little means to fight back against their statist aggression.

The New York Times doesn't care about the abuse of minorities (let alone the rights of the individual), and support of agendas like affirmative action illustrate how progressives don't oppose racism, which is for them is exploited as a means to smear the enemies and victims of their statist agenda so no one will listen to them.

Allen West is one of the most astute men alive. I really respect him.

Or selling and using drugs, robbing convenience stores, running in gangs, shooting people on the street corner....yea it 's ALL the war on drugs....

You are exactly correct. He speaks as a person who has rancher his entire life, to is not college educated, but educated by life. Was it clumsily spoken? Sure, but the meaning behind those words was elegant in the extreme.
And in a most frightening fashion, the iron fisted actions of the BLM and the screaming liberal press are indeed reminders of a certain sociopathic fascist named Adolf Hitler. He used the same tactics to stir loathing against the jews and any other group whom he felt were not pure.

He is ignorant, but how? He is ignorant in presentation, with a good hunk of lack of education thrown in. What is the true meaning behind the clumsily presented words? He uses words in a very unhip way. My oh my, he actually said "Negro!" He's no hero, nor is he a leader of men. He is the lawbreaker of a bad law and the government reacted with brute force when a simple court ordered lien would have done the job. A fully armed show of force was a stupid play, unless the government hoped to foment a coercive reaction. And if it did, what does that remind you of?

Watch Fox. They're all on the band wagon. Glen beck is all in an uproar and slamming Bundy all over the place. He lost the entire premise and I think it's due to beck not thinking Bundy isn't Mormon enough and he didn't think Bundy got the right message from God. Or some hooey.

Ah yes but maph seems to think only minorities can get persecuted.

Bundy and a lot of other ranchers are being persecuted by the Federal government on behalf of the viros, who want the American cowboy off the range. They exploit the fact that property rights are limited in the west by government fiat, and ranchers must rely on water rights and grazing rights but with no fee title to most of the land they have developed for their ranches, leaving them subject to bureaucratic bullying, "fees", fines, and "Endangered Species" prohibitions.

This has been going on for decades but most people in urban areas and in the east know nothing about it. See Wayne Hage, Storm Over Rangelands, 3rd ed. The progressives do not want this discussed and are trying to smear Bundy as a "racist" as a diversion.

Ok. Thanks!

Maphesdus, are you trying to convince us that all those single black moms out there are in their current state because the war on drugs swept up all those daddys before they could say "I do" at the alter? Really? Sorry, but I don't buy the notion that rampant black illegitimacy is a white bogeyman's fault, or the war on drugs. White illegitimacy has been on the rise for a few decades now, too. Is that a black bogeyman's fault or the war on drugs? Not likely.

I'm in there under db-I'm fighting in his name cuz we only have the one disqus

By the lib press, of course.

Is Cliven Bundy being persecuted?

Where. I'll come over :-)

Its that old classic myth about how the KKK treated blacks with every white person branded with that sickness. Yes there were some who did bad things to blacks, but not all. Wonder would the NYT. have posted articles back then about how slavery was wrong? I doubt it. Anything for a story. Maybe one day they just might look back in history to find out what really took place. Never have seen an add about indentured servants at all. Must not have the room on that rag. Even white people were indentured servants trying to leave their country that believed in slavery.

I take what Bundy said, in summary, as: "Blacks were on a slave plantation; now they are on a government plantation. Wonder where they were better off, family-wise."

I think what is meant is they (parents) are responsible for their kids lack of initiative, lack of moral compass, the things that lead to incarceration. The lack of firm constructive values as a child has consequences all through life.

With a black president, black attorney general, lots of black judges, both federal and state, lots of black police officers - and somehow you can justify your statement that a "white power structure" persecutes blacks? Please! Enough is enough!

I had a friend a few years ago who came from a poor black family, and was physically handicapped. The man had two PhDs, and had refused all "affirmative action" to prove he was as capable as anyone. He used to tell me he was the pariah in his family, because when his dropout half brothers would wail about how they were beat down by "the man", he would just say, "Funny, I don't recall seeing any white guys dragging your sorry butt out of school."

I don't hear Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson complaining about the war on drugs or the fact that the nuclear family dynamic with a mother and a father are important in there culture which they separate and constantly define as a separate culture from the rest of us.
As an aside, I went into the comments now I'm in a little battle with a troll