Oh, no. Wait until you have to call the goons when someone is breaking a law, and they tell you there is nothing they can do. They also have the infamous "we choose not to enforce it" clause as well. There a lot of stories out there where law enforcement has said they can choose NOT to enforce a law if they want to.
If parents want to take the time to teach their kids how to protect themselves against sexual predators, that's totally fine. I would never advocate for the state to intrude on a parent's right to teach their children whatever they want. But at the same time, parents may not always know how to effectively teach that, nor will every parent take the time to do so. And given the frequency of child abuse these days, I don't see anything wrong with public schools providing kids with information they can use to protect themselves.
As stated already, the right thing was to have the cop say that he needed to stop, warn him, then maybe issue a ticket. It seems a lot like "You need a Yellow Star" time in New Hampshire. Do not his taxes pay these morons and fund their empire? Maybe they need a grass roots movement to stop paying taxes until the BOE resigns.
FROM THEIR PARENTS. Are you a parent? Do you have kids in public school? Schools are not parents and they have no right to override parental decisions. And no right to use force against them for asking questions. I'm starting to think there's something wrong with you.
Of course it was a loaded question. That was the whole point. Sometimes a loaded question can make a person see what it is they're really saying. People like allosaur say they want to prevent schools from providing sex education to kids, not realizing that the sex education they're opposing is often nothing more than how to protect yourself against sexual predators, something which is actually very good for young kids to learn.
I want to stop public schools period. The schools are not our kids parents and they do not have a right to broach certain topics. Maph, have you beat your wife lately? (The way you formed your question reminded me of the question I just asked. Loaded.)
I have to agree about the police now being needed in schools. Back when I had a job that would bring me to schools and then having different work when I had my own school-going kids, the mass murders of school children had yet to really crank up.
"Sex education" for 1st graders usually involves teaching kids how to avoid being a victim of child abuse, and what to do if an uncle or someone tries to touch them in ways that are inappropriate. Do you want to stop schools from teaching kids how to protect themselves against pedophiles?
Flagging alerts the admin to your comment. I think my flags get ignored because I've maybe made one that was intentional. The buttons on my kindle show up tiny and too close to the reply button. Anyway.... this was not a complaint about God in the pledge it was about rape in a book. And I'm going to start referring to school board meeting police as the common core cops.
I would sure rather see the Police in the school during the day when our kids are there... Hell, these libs want to start teaching sex-education to 1st grade and earlier. Sick people!!!
Many concerned fathers do inappropriate things. I am one (teenage daughter and son). Father, grumpy tax payer at town council or drunk guy at a bar. He was asked to leave. He needs to leave. I call it boy scout police work, and pinheaded schoolboard marm that needs firing.
If this guy was the similarly offended atheist parents in MA that are protesting the word "god" in the Pledge of Allegiance, disrupting a school board meeting, half of those complaining about this would be silent.
Both my parents were teachers. It is bizarre that we need police at school board meetings. I wonder if that is standard practice these days, or if the weenie school board people did see this coming.
Dangit. I just flagged you by mistake when I was trying to hit the reply button on my kindle. Ugh. Sorry :( however...force and intimidation were used by a policeman to silence a concerned father. What DO you call it then?
He did accomplish what he set out to do. The DA will not prosecute this silliness. Totally agree, the schools don't own our kids, and this was inappropriate material. The teacher that picked it and the principal that wouldn't meet with the father both need a big "adjustment", and the school board needs a clean slate. It is just not an example of a totalitarian police, or violation of the first amendment.
The dad did the right thing. Why should he volunteer to be bullied. He's a man with a voice, and a daughter he is concerned about. The schools do not own our kids.
I wonder if tried talking to other parents or writing to the board members. He could be knew to meetings. Who knows at this point. The problem still remains. He did not get answers, the other parents did not object or side with him, and he was allowed to be silenced by a thug and nobody said a peep about it. I don't understand the silence... even if there is a cop in the room. Weak!!!
Recommend people just watch the video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HC2LPu8w... It is quite clear...You can hear the police officer tell him, "You need to leave", and he says, "well, I guess you are going to have to arrest me."
You are not accurate. The previous speaker remarked that he was finished speaking when Mr. Baer responded to the previous speaker's inane comment. No one asked him to leave. And why should he leave? Go back to your flock.
Do a little googling. The video of Mr. Baer's remarks are all over the internet. BTW, he notified the school board that he was going to raise the issue about this smut book, 15 Minutes, being given to his 14 year old to read.
This is in my local area. Gilford PD had a school shooting exercise in the elementary school the week prior to this. Teachers and elementary students participated. Total fear porn and, in addition, the smut novel, 15 Minutes, describes the carnage of a school shooting with children lying in pools of blood. This is the crap that they're force feeding our children and it's our fault. People...take back your power from these heartless sociopaths
Or homeschooling. In all fairness, we don't know how the father acted, and the fact that the video tape of his behavior wasn't shown is disturbing, and one sided. Innocent until proved guilty is wise even for organizations, not just individuals. How long did he refuse to stop? Did he repeatedly interrupt others? Was he warned? How many times? I won't assume. Do you wish to? At the same time, just the story he was arguing about, the sexual content of the story, would be enough for me to be looking for educational alternatives. The judgment of whomever allowed it, let alone allowed it to continue, let alone let it come to a meeting rather than simply say, "This is sexually explicit and there are better substitutes for any purpose we presently have." and can the book is stunningly bereft of ethics. I can understand his anger.
He could've made much more trouble for the school board in other ways. Writing a letter to the school board, clearly enumerating the issue, that the principal is avoid the issue, asking for a special topic on the subject (not 2min) at the next meeting, and copying the a few papers, would've created superior pressure. Getting 25 parents to take 2 min apiece on the same subject would have also been more painful for the school board as well.
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Father, grumpy tax payer at town council or drunk guy at a bar. He was asked to leave. He needs to leave.
I call it boy scout police work, and pinheaded schoolboard marm that needs firing.
If this guy was the similarly offended atheist parents in MA that are protesting the word "god" in the Pledge of Allegiance, disrupting a school board meeting, half of those complaining about this would be silent.
Both my parents were teachers. It is bizarre that we need police at school board meetings. I wonder if that is standard practice these days, or if the weenie school board people did see this coming.
What does "flagging" mean/do?
Totally agree, the schools don't own our kids, and this was inappropriate material. The teacher that picked it and the principal that wouldn't meet with the father both need a big "adjustment", and the school board needs a clean slate.
It is just not an example of a totalitarian police, or violation of the first amendment.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HC2LPu8w...
It is quite clear...You can hear the police officer tell him, "You need to leave", and he says, "well, I guess you are going to have to arrest me."
Go back to your mob.
In all fairness, we don't know how the father acted, and the fact that the video tape of his behavior wasn't shown is disturbing, and one sided. Innocent until proved guilty is wise even for organizations, not just individuals. How long did he refuse to stop? Did he repeatedly interrupt others? Was he warned? How many times? I won't assume. Do you wish to? At the same time, just the story he was arguing about, the sexual content of the story, would be enough for me to be looking for educational alternatives. The judgment of whomever allowed it, let alone allowed it to continue, let alone let it come to a meeting rather than simply say, "This is sexually explicit and there are better substitutes for any purpose we presently have." and can the book is stunningly bereft of ethics. I can understand his anger.
Getting 25 parents to take 2 min apiece on the same subject would have also been more painful for the school board as well.
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