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  • Posted by Hiraghm 11 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It's also not about a man cheating on his wife.That's a side story to further the plot and explain aspects of Rand's philosophy.

    IMO
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 11 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    http://humanachievementinitiative.wordpr...

    "Freedom and liberty are often conflated, and I’ve chosen to differentiate the two, somewhat. In my definition, “freedom” is little different from “license”; one might say authority over one’s life without responsibility for it. Whereas “liberty” is freedom with responsibility. You have supreme authority over your life, but you are responsible for dealing with the consequences of how you choose to exercise that authority. There is no safety net with liberty, except the one you choose to weave for yourself, to the best of your own ability, with the resources you manage to gather unto yourself. "
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 11 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    How'd it get around to the back door so quick after kicking in the front door and marching in? (Obamacare, pen & phone, etc)
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 11 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "Base is the servant who PAYS" - Henry V.

    it's the parents' school board, not the government's.
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 11 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "disrupting the meeting"... you mean what the left proudly calls "civil disobedience", and considers a normal part of the political process? Hm?
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 11 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "Why is "Semen, sticky and hot, pooled on the carpet beneath her" considered allowable for 14 year-olds in the first place? "

    That's not even good enough to make Penthouse...
    And you have to be 18 to read that...
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 11 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    *Public* schools are an institution to indoctrinate, not educate. Education is reading, writing, arithmetic, history, geography, and so on. Information to protect themselves might be a karate class, but not an 'education'. And it still should be up to the parents whether that information is disseminated to their children or not; also when, and how.
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 11 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You thought so when that one school taught kids that being gay was a bad thing. You were all over that one. IT'S THE SUBJECT MATTER AND THE AUTHORITY TO BULLY IN THE NAME OF TEACHING...THAT'S THE PROBLEM!!!! Ugh Goodbye Maph.
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  • Posted by Maphesdus 11 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Well, public schools are really more of an institution for educating children, rather than adults. If you want to provide adults with educational material, it would most likely be necessary to utilize or establish some other type of public institution more conducive to that end.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 11 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That is a misrepresentation. Clearly the school board did not want to address the issue, at least in the meeting, perhaps at all. Baer gave up the floor, but later continued his rant disrupting the meeting, yes disrupting. He was told they would not address his question, AND he was told he could add it as an agenda item by submitting it prior to a separate meeting. Pinheaded, yes.

    While the circumstance was weak for the officer to ask him to leave, it is within his authority. Once Baer refused and "I guess you'll have to arrest me", the officer had no choice, because Baer chose to escalate to disorderly conduct, by disobeying the officer, simple.

    I didn't notice before, but Baer is an attorney. He really should know how to take much stronger steps than by just disrupting a school board meeting with a rant.

    I agree the lines in the book are clearly inappropriate. I still wonder what would happen if 25 cases of contributing to delinquency of a minor (one for each student) were brought against the school system. It sounds like the teacher, the principal and the superintendent aren't listening.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 11 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    By what authority did the police officer have to tell him to leave? He was asking the board why they thought this was appropriate and they refused to answer. I don't think that's equal to "disorderly conduct", do you?
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 11 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Well, if refusing to be ignored and demanding answers in a calm tone is now considered disorderly conduct and an offense that warrants arrest at a school board meeting then tyranny has just tip toed in the back door.
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 11 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    tsk tsk... applying the wrong fix to the wrong problem...

    " parents may not always know how to effectively teach that,"

    The solution is not:
    "public schools providing kids with information they can use to protect themselves."

    The solution is:
    "public schools providing PARENTS with information they can use to protect their children."

    "And given the frequency of child abuse these days,"

    How's that making fun of Ozzie & Harriet / Leave it to Beaver / Andy in Mayberry workin' out for ya?
    Ain't we glad we replaced them with stuff like "Married with Children", "American Dad" and "Modern Family"?

    Let me know when you are finally able to make the connection between the destruction of traditional American culture and all these ills, such as "frequency of child abuse these days", so we can get busy restoring the institutions the know-it-all, perpetual adolescent boomers et al worked so hard to destroy.
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 11 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Hmmm sounds like you just said the state might be a more effective parent than the parents and in the name of safety it's okay to intrude. I have an idea. How about you wait until you're a parent before you attempt to make these types of arguments.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 11 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Ahh, thanks. Yeah, when I work off my iPad I have that problem.
    The note I made about god in the pledge of allegiance was a separate recent incident in MA.
    Love the Common Core Cops moniker!
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  • Posted by DaveM49 11 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Oh yes...they tend to do that to me. Like when someone have violated a restraining order for the fifth tine or when an inernet stalker has made unwanted phone calls to me and published my personal information online (among other things). THEN there's nothing they can do. They only seem to take on situations where they will not have to actually do much if any work.

    A few days ago, four Sheriff's vehicles showed up in the parking lot of my building after a couple on the third floor was having a shouting match. Seemed like overkill to me.
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