It's hard to imagine Jay Carney being gifted, but you're right, he could have taught Goebbels how to lie.

Jay Carney could have taught Josef Goebbels how to lie.

I just came back from graduation at my university (Florida Tech). While the ceremony was as wonderful as always, it was the first time that I had a little difficulty singing The Star Spangled Banner. America used to be what Ayn Rand would have wanted, but now not so much...

Most people had forgotten that, Bobhummel. I hadn't, but I'm glad for the reminder. Your comment explains a little bit of "What difference does it make?"

The average teacher's IQ is as high as 110. I would have guessed < 100. Professors are different, but when I was in engineering school, students who dropped out of engineering got A's the instant they switched into business. Those that flunked out of business went into education.

The problem is that 52% percent of the voting population's idea of reason is that it is OK if the government lied as long as they get their government cheese. This might be worthy of its own post.

My wife and I were there to attend the wedding of the son of very close Swiss friends from Grenchen, CH. We were all shocked at the brutalized condition of the ambassador's body. They were fairly graphic ( in Hoch Deutsch) in their description of his injuries which included speculation of sodomy using a rifle barrel.

I live in Colorado, SSE of Denver.
Jimslag, Don't let the BLM have one square inch of the Red River. I know that fight is on the TX side, but still.
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Thank you for the comment Bob. So, Do you live in Switzerland or were you just visiting? Always curious where someone lives. Myself, I am in New Mexico on the Texas border due to my job. Take care...

I was watching the news coverage of Benghazi assault on Swiss TV on 12 September 2014. In their coverage, they showed video of a very bloody and unconscious or dead Ambassador Stephens being dragged through the street outside the " diplomatic facility" in Benghazi. It was clearly extensive blunt force trauma. How convenient that these images did not make it on to American television. Wouldn't want to upset the imagery our dear leader has portrayed.

Thank you for your service Jimslag!
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As for me being former military and understanding what our resources were in the area, I called BS on the first inkling of their story. I have been against what the administration put out since the beginning. I feel sorry for the families of the Ambassador and the others, that the administration lied to them. I hate to think of what they would have said to my family if something had happened to me when I was in the Middle East. It just scares me that the administration has stooped to these levels of using things like this to cover their political butts.

Wasn't Hillary Rodahm very publicly excoriated and fired as a staff attorney for House Judiciary Committee for the Watergate Investigation by Jerry Zeifman, a lifelong Democrat.

Why?

“Because she was a liar, “She was an unethical, dishonest lawyer. She conspired to violate the Constitution, the rules of the House, the rules of the committee and the rules of confidentiality.”

A long history of deceit.

Hillary Rodham Clinton is a congenital liar.

Cheers.

Actually, the average teacher IQ is a mere 110, with journalists falling into the same category. Thus, those spreading the news and explaining it, are barely competent.
I believe, based on Michelle Obama's past history, that she very much meant what she said about not being proud of the US. She is a Marxist, went to the same Alinsky training as her husband, and as such, she hates capitalistic free America.
The whole "it was the video" ploy was a typical Hillary Clinton tactic. If you repeat a lie enough times it will become reality. She has always felt the general public was stupid. Right or not about that, this whole cover up was wrong.

At this point no reasonable person would question that the government lied. The real question now is why they lied. My vote is for the indecision of the Obama when faced with a crisis. A paralysed government that was hoping to cover its incompetence leading to having an indefensible ambassador in an openly hostile region.

Abaco, could it be that the average American is voluntarily functioning below 100 -- abdicating their responsibility to use their potential? -- j

You're correct. She was unfairly maligned over that comment, but she did mean it that statement to be a slam against those politically disagreed with her and her husband. That comment revealed her true feelings.

I actually felt Mrs.Obama was unfairly slammed over her comment. She didn’t mean it the way she has been unfairly maligned. She was talking to young voters and let’s face it, the Obama’s did get the youth excited about elections and interested in taking part in democracy. Of course, the youth didn’t realize at the time he was a two-bit hustler from Illinois, but that’s an argument for another day.

But, I do certainly agree with you on Benghazi. :)

They are banking on the fact that the average American has a double-digit IQ. Sadly...I agree with that premise. I think it's a good bet.

How many of you remember when Mrs. Obama said just prior to her husband being elected in 2008 that this was the first time that she had been proud of her country? For me, that was the last time I was proud of my country. And just so I don't get accused of racism, I once voted for Alan Keyes in a primary, thought seriously about voting for Herman Cain in the primary because of his 9-9-9 tax plan before finding out that he had been part of the Federal Reserve, and chose an African American dissertation advisor (Levi Thompson at The University of Michigan) - someone whom I disagreed with on politics and philosophy, but a great man nonetheless.

In fact, Mimi, I started this post partly in response to your post. We are in complete agreement.

I feel your pain. I watched the briefing myself. I posted a story yesterday because I was just so frustrated. I watched the WH briefing where Carney kept trying to vaguely refer to ‘all the protests throughout the Middle East’ as the broader picture and a real concern.

But, there had only been a couple isolated protests, one in Cairo and one in Yemen. The Egyptian officials had claimed, in Cairo, it occurred because of paid protesters. That riot hadn’t been just about a video like most people believe. The multitude of protest over the video that ignited the region and spread to Europe, Asia, and Australia came after the US ran the commercial apologizing for the video.
You could say the WH lit the fire for the video after they falsely pushed the video as a reason for tension in the region. More cowbell, please.

What is really sad is I feel so disconnected with my fellow americans right now. Obama and Clinton used the caskets arrival to push this nonsense. They stood over the dead bodies..talking about the video...not about the heroic men. Even if the video had played a role, (and pigs can fly) that was the tackiest thing I have ever seen a president do.

I don’t believe I have been so disappointed in my fellow citizens in my entire life. What about respect for these men who died a horrible death for their country. How can we live in a country where Obama and Clinton’s behavior is acceptable? I still don’t know that much about the life of Ambassador Stevens because nobody seemed to care enough to cover it.

Perhaps FOX can do a special on the anniversary this September, covering these men’s careers and lives. Then, call it a day.