Galt's Gulch

One for me, nineteen for the IRS

Posted by $ jbrenner 9 years, 10 months ago to Government
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I just got done paying taxes for my wife and I, for each kid, for each kid's trust, for my parents, for my mom's yearly estate bill, and for her estate (or as the IRS puts it, exit taxes) tax.

I think I need a little therapy.
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  • Posted by stargeezer 9 years, 10 months ago
    I spent the better part of three years divesting, re-organizing, selling (at a loss) and disposing of every source of taxable income, just so that I could live a life free of the IRS. Now all my income is tax exempt and until this year I have not been required to file a 1040 for a couple years.

    But now, thanks to a "service" I don't need, desire or want (Obamacare) I am once more required to file a 1040 in order to establish that I and my wife have medical coverage. I get all my medical services through the VA or from any nearby Army base hospital. My wife has the same access as I do plus she can go to any civilian hospital at VA expense.

    So I had government insurance, paid for by the government, but for some reason the IRS can't dial up my SSN to see that without my spending hours chasing around to fill out forms that say I had no income, I paid no taxes and My medical is provided by a governmental agency.

    I so want to not communicate with the IRS - EVER, but now I'm forced to once again.
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  • Posted by $ prof611 9 years, 10 months ago
    I just got back home from getting my 1040 forms at Office Max. It could only happen in the Virgin Islands.

    Yesterday I got on my computer to download and print out the forms, as I have been doing for many years. But my printer refused to function. I tried every piece of advice I could find in order to fix it - ending up after over an hour online with Epson by realizing that the printer was kaput. They said to just take it to my nearest service center, but that's almost 100 miles away by either plane or boat, since it's in Puerto Rico. So it would cost me over.three times the original cost of the printer to go there and back.

    After tossing my printer in the ocean, I went to the local IRS office to get the forms. What forms? We're out, and won't be getting any more until next week at the earliest.

    So that's why I have wasted the better part of a day just getting the forms to fill out. Now comes the fun part where I figure out just how much more money the IRS is going to extort this year.
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    • Posted by $ jbrenner 9 years, 10 months ago
      File an extension.

      If you download the files, you can fill them out in Adobe Acrobat.

      I should have stopped by you on my recent cruise. We visited St. Thomas and St. John. There were three boats flying pirate colors in Charlotte Amalie.
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      • Posted by $ prof611 9 years, 10 months ago
        I didn't need an extension, since I had Form 1040 downloaded & printed at Office Max. But thanks for the advice anyway.

        I would be happy to meet with any Gulch members if & when they are on St Thomas. Just give me a call at 540-547-6816. If you let me know what you want to do in STT/STJ, I'll be happy to arrange it for you. I know the best people in watersports on the island, or if you just want to relax at a sparsely-populated beach, I know the best ones.

        If you lose my phone number, just go to or call up Hull Bay Hideaway, and ask for the Professor.
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  • Posted by term2 9 years, 10 months ago
    I resent giving one cent to the IRS. They only use my success to bring me down and give money and power to the system. I can see why john galt had little trouble getting people to shrug. Except for DAgny and Hank, who needed to really see what was going on. AS movie brought that home in the form of Francisco ("this is a war and we need to take sides"), and Orren Boyle after the success of the John Galt Line ("we use their success to bring them down"). VERY true lines, for sure.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 9 years, 10 months ago
    Every time I think about taxes I feel a bit of vomit in my mouth.., taxes on taxes and the remaining amount being taxed, I am left with poverty level income in which I have to pay for the things to keep me alive in order to pay taxes and each one of those things get taxed also...being homeless looks more and more attractive every day...it just doesn't pay to pay.
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  • Posted by Ducky 9 years, 10 months ago
    May I suggest a weekend at your local Project Appleseed? As a volunteer rifle instructor and story-teller (of our first day as "Americans," April 19, 1775), I can tell you that this is my therapy, and works like nothing else. And now Groupon is making this whole event even more ridiculously affordable--$40 (plus range fees) for a two-day rifle marksmanship program and the story of Lexington and Concord. Being around like-minded people who reject tyranny and want to return to the principles of our founding, is very renewing.
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    • Posted by $ jbrenner 9 years, 10 months ago
      I wish I had known you before I visited that area three summers ago. Perhaps I'll see you on a visit there in the future.
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      • Posted by Ducky 9 years, 10 months ago
        You might be in luck--Project Appleseed is pretty much nationwide. You can find us at RWVA.org, which stands for Revolutionary War Veterans' Assn. My home range is actually (believe it or not) Sacramento Valley Shooting Range, but like I said, we're a nationwide group (of volunteers!) I hope that cheers you up, thinking about not only how many volunteers we have (strong since 2006), but the 10s of thousands of attendees we've had two days with--teaching them rifle and about our when marksmanship and history met, our heritage began. In California alone, we now can boast to having awarded Rifleman status (expert, on the Army Qualification Test) to over 800 people of the thousands we've taught. So chin up--we're working to restore our most noble heritage. Hope we see you at the range someday!
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  • Posted by scojohnson 9 years, 10 months ago
    I can sympathize, just did my taxes, my son's, my father-in-law's trust my wife manages, and a sister-in-law's, Thank God for TurboTax.

    We disposed of some ghetto-rentals the trust owned last year, I've had zero to do with the things, questions like basis cost+improvements (since 1981) with zero record keeping - well, I was creatively conservative you might say.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 10 months ago
    JB:
    Are you familiar with a device called a bataka? It's a sort of small, firm, l pillow with a handle at one end. Its purpose is to grasp the handle and beat the living crap out of a mattress or another pillow. You might find that to be quite cathartic. It has kept me out of jail, many times.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 10 months ago
    They used to be called inheritance taxes now the Government Party inherits everything and there is a tax on transfer of the funds. they call it found money

    There used to be an annual exemption for gifting a certain amount to the offspring but many have there funds tied up in the value of the land they rent from the government so now it's probably gone since they can re-rent it to someone else.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 10 months ago
    Try Turbo Tax it worked when all the other resources such as CPAs failed. The last place to look for help is the 1040 instructions they have been wrong six years out of six.

    Second tidbit

    IRS does all the filings that are paying first, Then they do the ones that have refunds indicated

    If they find you owe they don't make a notification but post it on a web site called something like status of refund under http://IRS.Org the main url.

    If you don't get your refund check there chances are you owe and it's the 60 day clock ticking.

    They do not indicate why or show an adjusted 1040 just say pay this much additional and give a slight hint as to which section ....and no humans respond. Assuming there are any.

    Other than harassing the working class I can't imagine why they exist nor why anyone would vote for their two main supporters Democrats and Republicans. (Socialist left and Socialist Right wings)
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