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US Land Weather Stations Show Mini Ice Age has Begun | Mini Ice Age 2015-2035 (149)

Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years ago to Science
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I can vouch for April in New England...coldest I remember...don't laugh...I've been around a while.
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    Posted by Lucky 8 years ago
    Relax everybody.
    These are unadjusted figures.
    Right this minute teams of carbon changed climate scientists are homogenizing data to confirm catastrophic warming.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 8 years ago
    Remember, it's no longer "global warming," but "climate change." That means no matter how the climate changes, humans are at fault. Rest assured, the IPCC and others will assure us they were right all along if the new impending disaster reverts to an ice age, as it was in the '70s.
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  • Posted by ChuckyBob 8 years ago
    In the maritime industry the northern passage has been considered the holy grail for centuries because it would shorten the Europe-Asia transit considerably. If we were to have a shorter transit, that would mean fewer emissions, therefore, polar ice melting is good for the environment.
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  • Posted by Dobrien 8 years ago
    In the last 2 months I have noticed that every morning when the cloudless blue sky offers a warm sun , the sky has very high altitude planes
    leaving a thick white cloud horizon to horizon. With in an hour or so we cloud up and temps drop.
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    • Posted by $ nickursis 8 years ago
      The whole contrail thing is another story. There are 2 sides to that, and with a totally untrustworthy government, and agenda driven secret politics, it is impossible to ever know just what it is they are doing, so everyone stops their heads hurting sand just either label it a conspiracy theory, or whacko.
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      • Posted by Dobrien 8 years ago
        You are spot on nickursis. One is reminded of the state science institute in Atlas Shrugged. In the sense that all the efforts toward technological advancement were weapons against the populace. Suggesting that same type of anti-American activity by those who have pledged to uphold the constitution is really saying the enemy is within. Elected by us. That idea is so fundamentally disturbing to contemplate that the desire for normalcy overrides evidence. The creation of labels like "denier", "conspiracy theorist", "whistleblower", "racist", "islamaphobe"
        "Conservative kook" allows for a dismissal of rational reasoning and discussion. This results in dividing the people as well as limiting an individual to think for themselves and cave in to the PC of the moment.
        For example: No one with rational thought would possibly argue the fact that "black lives matter". Why of course they do . The problem is that the activists are selective in which black lives matter.
        No protests when 25 or 30 young blacks are murdered in a typical weekend in Chicago mostly victims of gang (terrorists) violence. The riots and protests tend to revolve around people resisting arrest (fighting, trying to grab the cops gun) usually after committing a crime. My mind does not offer sympathy for the results of that behavior.
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  • Posted by Owlsrayne 8 years ago
    I watched the entire video of that report and I wonder about the idiots who work for the Prez. Do they think BHO is a god or something and that he can say for sure what the future weather is going to be? i hope when he leaves office and goes back to Chicago that next winter it freezes out for at least two months. Maybe then he'll change his tune or unless surcomes to it and become a corpsicle.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 8 years ago
    Global warming, global cooling? How about Global Nonsense? We're gonna drown in seas that melt glaciers due to mankind. We're gonna freeze with a new ice age. We have less to worry about what the earth is doing to humanity and vice-versa than we have to worry about what humanity is doing to itself.
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  • Posted by Ed75 8 years ago
    The problem humans have is they don't live very long relative to geologic time, and therefore ignore longer range patterns. According to Robert W Felix, who wrote "Not by Fire, but by Ice", Ice Ages cycle about every 11 thousand years and we are overdue. This book is a fascinating read.
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    • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years ago
      I'm thinking around 13K myself and that was the sudden end of the last big grand one.

      But in essence, correct, western society tried the linear thing and has generally ignored the longer cycles our ancestors were much more aware of.
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    • Posted by lrshultis 8 years ago
      A million years ago, glaciations came about every 40,000 years and about 500,000 years ago the glaciations started into a 100,000 year cycle with glaciation of about 90,000 years and interglacials of about 12,000 years. The ice ages never quit. We are just in an interglacial period, which, if all goes well will last some 1000s of years more.
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      • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years ago
        At suspicious observers, we are looking at this as well...the last one ended suddenly about 12/13K years ago...that's half the grand cycle or percussion of the equinox. Another cycle works it's way in there: Our orbital change around the sun; circular to oval...we are somewhere inbetween and it seems no one has a clear understanding exactly where we are in this cycle...some say we're headed back to a more circular orbit others say we'll get more oval.
        I have a sense of why these changes occur, it has to do with how our sun, planets in tow, moves around the the milkyway...seems we don't move in a level orbit. Another interest of mine.
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  • Posted by term2 8 years ago
    I think its pretty much useless to theorize on large scale climate changes unless one is in agriculture for example, where the changes affect crops.

    These changes come slowly and without our ability to change them- the earth is just too large with too much thermal mass to change quickly
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    • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years ago
      Fortunately, we don't have to "theorize" we need only to look back upon history and previous cycles of nature.
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      • Posted by term2 8 years ago
        This is a bit of theorizing- but if the sun puts out a constant amount of energy that impacts the earth which is pretty much independent of the earths temp, and the energy losses to space are only to a tiny degree dependent on changes in earths temperature, doesnt that mean that the average temperature of the earth stays the same- but oscillates back and forth in stable cycles?
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        • Posted by Ben_C 8 years ago
          But the sun does not put out constant amounts of energy. Solar flares are variable and have a profound impact on earth as does volcanoes both in the ocean and on dry land. Unless climate scientists have a magic wand to control solar flares and volcanoes I doubt man has much impact on climate. Besides, CO2 is a good thing.
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          • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years ago
            Yes...CO2 is a very good thing and more is actually better for life overall...it has no bearing on temperature, it is only .03 percent of our atmosphere and actually FOLLOWS temperature. The reason that it stopped following temperature is the weakening of our shielding which has been happening over the last 150 years of so...this has allowed more Cosmic radiation to interreact with our ionosphere which creates more carbon, hydrogen, oxygen, cloud cover to name a few. It is now being observed that everything needed for life on this planet comes upon the cosmic winds.
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        • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years ago
          In normal 11 year cycles yes, but Grand cycles have a more global effect. We see in history that there still is a few small areas that actually warm or virtually stay the same but much of the rest of the globe gets colder. What really wrecks havoc is the day to day extremes and the possible devastating events...floods, instant freezing, strong storms, increased volcanic eruptions and earthquakes; not to mention emp events. (electro-magnetic pulses) which charge the atmosphere and the surface.
          The shame of it all is the current political compartmentalized rhetoric will prevent the population from preparing for these events; not to mention all of the other bizarre events going on...which I suspect are interrelated.
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          • Posted by $ nickursis 8 years ago
            Well, I have seen colder times n the PacNorWest this year, although we did not have the snow, which is normal for a El Nino. On the other hand, we have had some warmer than normal temps for the odd day or two as well.I noticed in the vid they were concentrating on the difference between satellite and ground stations, and one would think the NWS has only a billion or so ground stations all over the place, so they should have a huge database. Why do they need just sat data, unless that is all that fits their plans?
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          • Posted by term2 8 years ago
            Well, the coastal regions of california arent great because of earthquakes and lack of water. The east coast gets hurricanes. The midwest around the big rivers gets flooded and has tornadoes. Maybe that leaves Utah, Idaho, New Mexico, and parts of Arizona. I suppose there are midwest states that have good farming and little tornadoes too, but I am not familiar with those.
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