Cartoon of the week
The drawing says it all. A Viable candidate for life is depicted but denied rights that something as common as an auto accident or not having it's brains sliced and diced as the head emerges depicts. Harking back to my Vietnam years it drum rolls in the background "Now who are the real baby killers?"
Happily the Courts agreed some years ago and stopped such barbaric acts limiting, which i agree fully with, abortion to the pre viability stage and turned their back on how to fit a prom dress as a reason to commit murder.
Fetus stage is roughly 2 trimesters or six months...Viable citizen with the right to be protected is somewhere in the third trimester. It's a medical decision and a human and civil rights decision in most cases.
Execution at that point requires lawyers, juries and the other trappings of a civilized society.
Her support of that alone should be Hillary 'Waddles' Clintonite's last gasp. What about the babies right to choose? What about the husband's right to choose?
Assuming Obama doesn't declare babies the subject of his 'suspicion of' version of our now defunct Bill of Rights.
Happily the Courts agreed some years ago and stopped such barbaric acts limiting, which i agree fully with, abortion to the pre viability stage and turned their back on how to fit a prom dress as a reason to commit murder.
Fetus stage is roughly 2 trimesters or six months...Viable citizen with the right to be protected is somewhere in the third trimester. It's a medical decision and a human and civil rights decision in most cases.
Execution at that point requires lawyers, juries and the other trappings of a civilized society.
Her support of that alone should be Hillary 'Waddles' Clintonite's last gasp. What about the babies right to choose? What about the husband's right to choose?
Assuming Obama doesn't declare babies the subject of his 'suspicion of' version of our now defunct Bill of Rights.
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Your asserted logical thinking is questionable at best and is at least biased by your belief systems, not facts or cause and effect.
As an Objectivist, I have absolutely no interest or concern over what you feel or believe and your decision to feel and live with guilt or attempt to avoid it, but I totally reject any attempt by you to impose such thinking on others.
You're preaching nonsense.
I will not claim to be an expert on Objectivism but based upon the comments on this forum it appears to me that Objectivist followers of this site base there philosophy more on faith than do conservatives or liberals. I will give you two examples:
The majority on this site are adamant that there is no God. There is absolutely no solid proof of this one way or the other that anyone has ever been able to produce in the history of the world.. Yet the objectivist on this site take what knowledge they do have and extrapolate that there is no God. That is fine, I tend to draw a similar conclusion. However, I am aware that I really do not know and can not say for sure. In general conservatives and liberals are the same way. Most conservatives believ ether is a God, liberals are more split...but neither philosophy lays claim to an absolute one way or the other. Both welcome people regardless of whether or not they believe in God. People on this forum tend to have so much faith in their unproven ideas that they are less accepting that either the conservatives or liberals.
Point two...I have never seen the conservative or liberals have so much faith in one person that they treat them like a God like I have seen people talk about Ayn Rand on this forum. Come on, she is just a person that had both good and bad ideas just like the rest of us.
However...closed minded is all I hear from the buldk of your answer. I hope you can open up your mind past what Rand taught. You have not even figured out that I am not a religious person (though there is no one can authoritatively say there is or is not a God so we can not judge harshly on that topic).
Your easy out is that you proclaim it is not a person. I do not believe that to be true and have addressed that elsewhere, but I think you are kidding yourself so you do not have to face hard reality.
I am trying to help you understand that choices you make have consequences and everyone is responsible for the consequences they create.
Where do you think I am trying to create guilt for selfish reasons? What is my selfish reason? Though I would say guilt is an indispensable quality of a good person. Without it people tend to be sociopaths.
Every time you take an action you enter into a contract of sorts because every significant action comes with consequences and your responsibility for the consequences you created. If you pull the trigger of a gun and shoot someone you caused that persons death and have agreed to take the consequences that come. You can not scream. I Did Not Kill Him, I Just Pulled The Trigger But He Died on His Own. You also can not decide you change your mind. It is to late, he is dead and you now have to face up to your responsibilities.
He turned out t be a wonderful man. That experience is what set me against abortion, at least for my wife and I. As I have often stated, however, I am against imposing my way on anyone else through the power of the government.
It can be misconstrued as implying that if there is no clear and agreed point of change along a development path then there is no development.
We have a word, fetus, to define something living, a conglomeration of living cells, but not a human. It eventually develops into a human.
Wrong.
Objectivism accepts reality, studies it, and derives rules for human behavior based on evidence and the importance of life.
Wrong.
This forum celebrates life as a heroic endeavor. Objections are made when some want to force their prejudices into the bodies of others.
Short of the Republican establishment caving and getting behind Cruz there is no hope in that direction (so far they have caved to the left with regularity) .which brings me back to my prediction of a 95% of total vote going left wing socialist to one degree or another again meaning there is zero interest in a return to a Constitutional Republic government.
The only hope now is the 46% - 50% of eligible voters currently listed as disenfranchised with no representation will four years later grow to 60% plus and that is a weak hollow reed since there is no guarantee of any way of getting on the ballot IF There is indeed such a system left. I see no move in the military in upholding their oath of office. Something unthinkable 20 years ago.
Can't happen here. What an idiotic statement that would be It has and is happening here.
I'm thinking one day of being interviewed as the last remaining citizen of the USA in fifteen years or so. We could all chip ten bucks a square to see who it will be.
Given the probable choices with no real support for Cruz from our rather large group in evidence it's a toss up between Comrade Waddle and Comrade Tromp.
candidates like Cruz and DT are side-tracked by a single word
like abortion. . dumping them and -- somehow -- getting a real
constitutionalist into office isn't easy, though. . it will take a large
cultural change in the u.s. -- j
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Second sentence however
It's about how easy it is to destroy - any support (by) any unapproved supporters of (any) non socialist fascist left wing candidates - (that) can be destroyed.
Wow I must have been operating on zero caffiene with that one.
"It's about how easy it is to destroy any unapproved candidates and their supporters" Meaning any one who isn't in the left wing coalition of Rino or establishment Republicans, Democrats, Socialists and secular progressives.
The 46% -50% who are disenfranchised by the single party system of government and the rigged elections system.
Supporters of Cruz comes to mind as well as any other candidates - except Trump, Kasich, Clinton and Beaver Bernie. the latter three being the only approved candidates from the left. .
Should be clear enough ..my apologies.
The whole point however had to do with how easy it is to marginalize any efforts for any but approved candidates with subject matter that completely overshadows the primary goal of a. dumping the leftists, b. getting a Constitutionalist in office, and then making changes. The same subject matter that will get no hearing without dumping the left.
But look how much interest it caused? 87 comments in a day on something that has nothing to with getting the ability to do something.
Getting that ability is being ignored and worse support for getting that ability is being even more than before shredded and marginalized.
All because of one word that when looked at objectively has been 95% changed as to it's most objectionable portions
Of I can cause that with one post with a supposedly educated audience how easy to shear away support for Mr. Cruz or similar with a full blown propaganda machine.
No one caught on....yet the time for debating such issues is over and the time for electing 'someone' is at hand.
No one's eye is on the ball.
After three of these comments you will get at least three more days of missing the point.
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May 24, 1997 - Just how much can the government force a woman to sacrifice for a fetus? ... have refused to allow an exception even to protect the woman from serious harm ... for women who would abort a pregnancy to fit into a prom dress.
Your blanket nobody didn't bother to do fact checks before trying to speak for everyone.
Never the less you are still missing the point. I should have bet money on this one .
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