Cartoon of the week
The drawing says it all. A Viable candidate for life is depicted but denied rights that something as common as an auto accident or not having it's brains sliced and diced as the head emerges depicts. Harking back to my Vietnam years it drum rolls in the background "Now who are the real baby killers?"
Happily the Courts agreed some years ago and stopped such barbaric acts limiting, which i agree fully with, abortion to the pre viability stage and turned their back on how to fit a prom dress as a reason to commit murder.
Fetus stage is roughly 2 trimesters or six months...Viable citizen with the right to be protected is somewhere in the third trimester. It's a medical decision and a human and civil rights decision in most cases.
Execution at that point requires lawyers, juries and the other trappings of a civilized society.
Her support of that alone should be Hillary 'Waddles' Clintonite's last gasp. What about the babies right to choose? What about the husband's right to choose?
Assuming Obama doesn't declare babies the subject of his 'suspicion of' version of our now defunct Bill of Rights.
Happily the Courts agreed some years ago and stopped such barbaric acts limiting, which i agree fully with, abortion to the pre viability stage and turned their back on how to fit a prom dress as a reason to commit murder.
Fetus stage is roughly 2 trimesters or six months...Viable citizen with the right to be protected is somewhere in the third trimester. It's a medical decision and a human and civil rights decision in most cases.
Execution at that point requires lawyers, juries and the other trappings of a civilized society.
Her support of that alone should be Hillary 'Waddles' Clintonite's last gasp. What about the babies right to choose? What about the husband's right to choose?
Assuming Obama doesn't declare babies the subject of his 'suspicion of' version of our now defunct Bill of Rights.
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I ascribe to Dennis Miller's adage 'One penis, no vote' as to other people's pregnancies. I have never been in the position of becoming a father, but I would like to think I would be able to also agree with that statement, but fear I will have a hard time with accepting my future offspring's mother's decision to abort them, but would accept it none the less.
That said, it's abhorrent to require those who oppose abortion to support it with their tax money.
Recognizing the need to more accurately define the terms as I stated earlier this columnist has done the job for the pro-life side while taking a big step toward common ground with the opposition. If I find something of equal value I'll add it or someone else can do so.
"Donald Trump Is Clueless on Abortion – But So Are Many Americans
Kristan Hawkins | Apr 10, 2016
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Because the “pro-life” and “pro-choice” labels have become so subjective, Americans are increasingly identifying with a particular label when, in reality, they don’t fall under that camp at all.
Donald Trump has stated he is pro-life with exceptions (rape, incest and life of the mother). He has also stated seriously radical positions that hardly anyone in the pro-life movement would agree with, like women who seek illegal abortions should be punished. He also said that the “laws are set" on abortion and that the legality of it should go back to the states.
Last May, Gallup released a poll that touted the headline “Americans Choose ‘Pro-Choice’ for First Time in Seven Years.” The poll said that half of Americans say they pro-choice, while only 44 percent self-identify as pro-life.
While on the surface, it looks like more Americans are self-identifying as pro-choice than pro-life, when a closer look is taken at exactly what they favor, those numbers tell a different story.
Nineteen percent of respondents said abortion should be illegal in all circumstances and 36 percent said it should be legal in only a few circumstances. Those two groups of respondents equal a pro-life majority at 55 percent total, while people that said abortion should be legal in all and most circumstances amount to 42 percent.
So Donald Trump isn’t the only person confused on abortion, although he is probably in a camp of his own when it comes to stating his position.
Americans may be misidentifying themselves when it comes to the matter of abortion since a majority clearly support significant restrictions on abortion. For millennials in particular, as a group that works with over 930 student pro-life groups, we see students misidentifying themselves all the time on campuses across the country, which is why we no longer ask them if they are pro-life or pro-choice. They don’t know, nor do they care, what the labels mean. Instead, when we are on campus, we plainly ask students whether or not they support legal abortion or how long into a pregnancy they tolerate abortion.
There is a huge disconnect in national conversation about abortion. Many people think they may be labeled as one thing and, in actuality, identify more with something else.
Part of this disconnect has been the political left's attempt to confuse the labels. Remember when Wendy Davis, the Texas state senator who filibustered a law to ban abortions after preborn babies can feel pain, declared she was actually pro-life in the Texas gubernatorial race?
It shows how little time those of us in the pro-life movement have actually spent trying to define our pro-life brand, while letting others do it for us as we scramble to promote and fundraise for our individual organizations.
In 2014, Planned Parenthood advocated dropping the pro-choice label, saying publicly it didn’t really mean anything any longer and privately that it was associated with the negative connotations of abortion. So they went broader and began using code terms such as “women’s health” and “reproductive freedom.”
With the labels of pro-life and pro-choice falling by the wayside and the GOP frontrunner for the presidential nomination saying he’s pro-life one day and supports existing abortion laws the next, what are we to do?
It’s time to speak plainly, stop using vague language and have an honest and open conversation about abortion and when it should be legal.
The pro-life movement needs to take back the brand and proudly declare what the term means.
Being pro-life is about empowering women and providing resources to those facing unplanned pregnancies. It centers around the belief that abortion is the taking of innocent life and that abortion is not acceptable at any point in the pregnancy. It means believing there are two victims in every abortion – the mother and the baby. It means that we want to see abortion made unthinkable and illegal."
The one part she left out is methods to prevent pregnancy, safe sex and yes abstinence all preclude abortion as an issue. Another way is cease rewarding a culture that produces 12 year old mothers as something to be proud of.l...
If I find it, I will post it.
My point being...WITHOUT getting mystical (which I dislike) I think, like most things the unaware does...we just might be messing with something we shouldn't be.
Life may be common place in creation but Conscious life might be limited and prized...just observe life on this planet..."Conscious life" certainly is limited...
Quit Enabling
Take Control
Make Changes_
_starting with those indicated by common agreement and perhaps easier ones such as recall for all states. listing Senators and Representatives as employees of the states and subject to recall (state delegate to) dropping the education department as not an item of constitutional concern, dumping income tax and going to end user consumption system, repealing the draft. etc.
hard ones such as abortion will have their turn but not until the three man rules are followed. those who want their cake and eating it too will have to be cast aside and shunned. no one gets the whole loaf on such issues except as a state level issue.
I agree with you that the NOW and Planned Parenthood leaders have revealed themselves to be ghouls, if not zombies. The deeper issue is with the original choice (or lack thereof) by the mother. If it were an exception that arose, it would not be a national issue. Apparently, the epidemic (no other word for it) reflects a failure in the epistemology of life skills.
I am dead set against any abortion with the exception of a medical condition that calls for one or the other when the baby is viable. That means has a better than 50 50 chance of surviving a preemie and becoming a functioning human being. I am especially abhorrent with the later term and the partial birth procedures.
Flip the switch I have zero problem and support the choice for abortion from Morning After Pill when the fetus is not a viable candidate for a successfull pre-natal or pre natural birth.
At that point IF there is a father floating around I would hope there is some discussion. If not something is seriously wrong with the relationship.
Since the amount of, to me, objectionable, procedures is quite low I sided with the courts who made much the same distinction and did not speak against the Congress who introduced the concept officially of a viable premature birth demanded protection of the unborn child.
I am also against baby factories that see pregnancy as a way of increasing their personal income. and believe strongly in tubal ligation and when it can be found vasectomy in exchange for mooching.
At the other end is the partial birth slice and dice method which is sickenly barbaric and thankfully is barred.
Do I get a vote? i pay taxes don't I? Of course I'm involved.
Clinton made her choice for the Baby Killer Vote. She deserves no support for that one reason alone. Along with those who accosted us as returnees and now claim it never happened.
Along with the NOW group who conveniently forget their sisters when a cute butt is handy to admire.
So there is a place for choice and it doesn't have to be that difficult nor extreme but the court also decided to leave it up to the States.
One of the few sensible uses of the 9th and 10th from that group of nine.
I looked at the cartoon and was reminded of a current song I'm just a little kid stuck in the middle....No when you capable of surviving you deserve protection same as any other citizen.
You won't find it with political monsters like Hillary Rodham Clinton or I suspect with either of the other two left wing front runners.
I also wished to pour gas on the fire and see what could be smoked out or burned out. The obvious answer other than that which has been done if use the freaking Constitution and the 50 choice rule.instead of this idiotic lock step crap such as we saw last year.
She must have had a hard day at school. She was in a Christian Montessori school. She was five. In car on the way home she said, "I wish I was dead."
Why, I asked.
"Because then I could be in heaven with Jesus."
We pulled her from the school.
Where do anti-choice Christians imagine that dead babies go? Heaven? Hell? Someplace else? Nowhere? Does Jesus Christ gather them up from Limbo before (or after?) He liberates the souls from Hell who died before His First Coming?
Terminating a pregnancy is a terrible choice. But only one person can make it. You cannot make it for her.