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Panama Papers Reveal Clinton’s Kremlin Connection

Posted by $ nickursis 8 years ago to Government
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Although this is not a specific issue Objectivists might engage in, the notion that there is a dark set of connections, power players and influence peddlers as well as some behind the scenes manipulation of politics seems to be something we would care about. It clearly shows the looters and manipulators and their connections . Pretty sad that we have descended to such levels, but not surprising.
SOURCE URL: http://observer.com/2016/04/panama-papers-reveal-clintons-kremlin-connection/

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  • Posted by Herb7734 8 years ago
    Such intertwined under radar banking by the Clintons should come as no surprise to anyone noting their actions over the years. They are dishonest, thieving, carpetbagging power hungry, felons, who wear the masks of liberal bleeding hearts while screwing their followers the worst and everyone else as the opportunity presents itself. The only good thing you can say about them is that Bill is a dynamite politician who can befriend a rattlesnake if he needs to.
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    • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years ago
      The clintonians would serve as a perfect definition of parasitical humanoids...certainly devoid of conscience.
      Aside from overwhelming envy, their money collecting, stealing accumulations really have no purpose in the big picture other than for protection from prosecution.
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    • Posted by plusaf 8 years ago
      Yep, and I was thinking about that this morning.
      What occurred to me was that, if you listed ALL of the things people complain about for Hillary, Bernie, The Donald, Rubio or WHOMEVER...

      Look around and ask: Does anyone care?

      The mass media and cult followers on any/all sides.... don't care. They're information-proof. (I think I just coined that, and I like it...)

      Nobody Cares. Not enough people who matter or can do anything about the incredible cult followers and followings or the ideas the cults promulgate.

      If that were not the case, all that shit would have been over, dead and buried decades ago.

      That's not Root Cause, but I think it's an important realization.

      Cheers!
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      • Posted by $ nickursis 8 years ago
        It is something I think a lot of us rail on in the forums, and is a root cause of a lot of the issues we see. Too many people feel powerless to effect any possibility of stopping. Look at the way the election system has been rigged just to ensure you cannot get elected without the money needed, and the money comes from the people and groups that want to control. A normal group/person in HillaryBeasts position would be worried, and do things to try to clear her name, yet both her and the Democrap party do nothing but say how wonderful and great she is. That just seems to say they are so secure in knowing the outcome (and based on fact, not fantasy) that they can be their usual arrogant selves. Someone would need to come up with undeniable proof of conspiracy on a large scale to change anything, and even then, the sheeple "don't care" which was bred into them by the education system, would negate it.
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        • Posted by term2 8 years ago
          I just read that Hildebeast has over $220 million in contributions to guarantee her election and her ability to fulfill the many promises she made to the contributors. Sanders had as I remember something like $114 million,and Cruz close to that. Its incredible that so much money would be "invested" in a job that pays just $400k a year. Yeah right !!!
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        • Posted by plusaf 8 years ago
          ABSO-FUCKING-LUTELY!

          http://www.plusaf.com/_troll-pix/trol...

          You got it. and it works for any belief or candidate that has an 'opposing' belief ... or candidate...

          Thanks!

          .... Now, what? :)
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          • Posted by $ nickursis 8 years ago
            The whole money thing, especially since the SCOTUS was bought out, has just come out from the shadows into full view, with nothing to stop them. One reason I no longer believe that any of our institutions are based in the original precepts. They have all been bought and sold. Hence, I believe there is someone who is orchestrating the purchases and finance, that much money does not just float around, there is some serious corruption and influence peddling, let alone specific quid pro quo going on, and the sheeple just want to know "whats in it for me". HillaryBeast could rip a child in half and eat it on stage, and no one would think twice.
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            • Posted by plusaf 8 years ago
              A few years ago, a feisty curmudgeon from Australia suggested that ALL governments, world-wide, have already been bought, signed, sealed and delivered to the global corporations, and all the rest (the parts we see) are window-dressing.
              I could not disagree or find any proof that he was wrong.
              But it does add a major layer of challenge and complexity to my previous question of "Now what?...)
              eh?
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              • Posted by $ nickursis 8 years ago
                It is suspicious. Follow the money, and their legalization of more money, and uncontrolled supply of it for what? For whom? Almost a billion has been blown by all parties in this cycle, where does it come from and who benefits? Is it any wonder HillaryBeast will win no matter what? The sad fact is 95% or so of the sheeple refuse to even ask the questions.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years ago
    There is no other concussion to make about the clintonians, oboboians, the sorasses etc is that they truly are a much different, incompetent, useless, retarded race of creatures fighting for dominance and survival against Conscious Human Kind...left alone to do our thing, empowered by each other to be the best we can be, we certainly are an amazing species.

    If you can see beyond the purposed genetic mutations over time, the political, cultural, mystical, economic and educational disempowerments...it becomes self evident.

    It's been my observation that in spite of our creation, however that happened, whom ever had a hand in it...it is obvious that we are better than those that have ruled over us from day one.
    Within creation, life is favored therefore intended but conscious life must have been the chosen consequence of it all...however one might chose to think about that observation...it is obvious.
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  • Posted by dnr 8 years ago
    The heart of the article says nothing about the Clintons and the introductory session connects them through implications, without direct evidence. As much as I may believe that they are involved, this article provides no direct evidence.
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  • Posted by straightlinelogic 8 years ago
    I think one of Ayn Rand's shortcomings was her inability to see, or perhaps recognize, the systemic corruption of the US government evident even back in the 1960s and 1970s. If she had, she never would have endorsed her then friend Alan Greenspan becoming Chairman of President Ford's Council of Economic Advisors as a "heroic" endeavor. President Ford, it should be remembered, was a member of the thoroughly coopted and corrupt Warren Commission. I think it is altogether fitting that Objectivists study closely government and crony corruption. It's entomology, but somebody has to do it. By the way, I just posted on Galt's Gulch my take on the real criminals: "Panama is Small Change." The GG link:
    https://www.galtsgulchonline.com/post...
    and the SLL link:
    https://straightlinelogic.com/2016/04...
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    • Posted by ewv 8 years ago
      Ayn Rand was well aware of corruption. She did not endorse conspiracy theories and the "evil man" theory of history as the driving force behind the course of a nation.
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      • Posted by straightlinelogic 8 years ago
        I'm sure she was aware of it, I just think she had a blind spot for the US government. She loved the US and I don't think she conceived how corrupt its government already was.
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        • Posted by ewv 8 years ago
          She did not have a blind spot for the contemporary nature of the US government.

          Most people do not know how things are actually done within Washington or how things are stopped because they know nothing from experience beyond news reports and a general state of cynicism and vague hearsay conspiracy speculations. But those mechanics and details are not what is driving the course of the nation. They are only how in what particular way at the moment.
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      • Posted by $ nickursis 8 years ago
        It may have been she did not have enough facts or evidence to show conspiracy, and she always seemed to think facts were needed to make a rational choice. If she accepted them at face value, then she could have believed they were as "honest" as they seemed.
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        • Posted by Dobrien 8 years ago
          No disrespect to AR, but their are too many secret groups, secret societies that are populated by the same names that hold the power positions. Maybe they just like to play drinking games together. Maybe they don't plan how to cement their status or to be slavemasters or influence the masses or control the media, education, and entertainment(sic).
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      • Posted by Dobrien 8 years ago
        Thank you in advance for you thoughtful reply. What did she or you for that matter, think the driving force behind the course of a nation was or for you is?
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        • Posted by ewv 8 years ago
          Ayn Rand spend her career explaining how basic philosophical ideas drive the culture and therefore politics. See her For the New Intellectual, her Philosophy: Who Needs It?, and all her philosophical analyses of the current events she wrote and lectured about. This has been discussed and emphasized on this forum many times, and Ayn Rand repeatedly emphasized it herself.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years ago
    Curiosity leads me to ask what connection with Soros and Lewis or do the two of them regard the group disguised as capitalist roader they being the self avowed socialist roaders of the west.
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    • Posted by $ nickursis 8 years ago
      I don't know if there is a connection, but I am willing to think so, since they seem to all want to benefit from manipulation of power. Soros is so rich you have to wonder what his stake is in this, since he stands to lose in any progressive/liberal setup. He can't think they do not want to liberate his billions for their own use.
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      • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years ago
        Who is they? Soros IS the number one leader of the secular progressive crowd. His billions are outside the country in his own banks in Curacao. That's the connection you missed. Comrade Soros is the future leader the rest like Bernie Beaver and Waddle are the apparatchiks. Read their own books especially Dont See The Elephant by George Lakoff the self proclaimed yoda of the secular left.

        Wasserman? Reid, Pelosi? Are all socialist roaders with a huge smear of constitutional wrecking and do what they are told to do without the pesky nonsense of thinking.

        Chief among them one particular airhead Looney Clooney, moveon.org. ACLU and others. All belong to Soros....
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        • Posted by Herb7734 8 years ago
          Why are most people so unaware? After asking myself this many times, I looked back at my own life. I was busy living it. I was raising two bright, active boys.and running a retail business. In addition, devoting time to my family, friends, relatives. Politics were not even in my top ten list, and I was more aware than most of my peers. That's one reason why politicians get away with much of the crap that they do. No one gives a damn until it up and hits them in the face
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        • Posted by $ nickursis 8 years ago
          Which may be the whole connection to say a lot, if not all, of this current mess was intentionally staged to take the US down finally. The connection of Soros to Kasich to derail Trump is already public. Maybe that is the "puppet string pullers in the background" we have talked about.
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          • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years ago
            I see no problem with that line of thinking except you left Trump out ....he's the grand diversion...but come on checks to Hillary? When his pronouncements to make sense it's a leftist solution always. In the sense that Soros and Lewis of Progressive Insurance are socialist corporatists while it serves their purpose. Soros himself said he wants to get rid of the Republic and install full blown socialism.
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            • Posted by $ nickursis 8 years ago
              I am not arguing your logic, it does indeed seem this may be the ultimate aim, but it also seems to line up with a bunch of other organizations, some of whom "leak" their programs to be "patriotic" but then others show the connections to this whole group of one worlders and their idea of a socialist heaven.
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              • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years ago
                I bought their books and put the puzzle together.
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                • Posted by $ nickursis 8 years ago
                  I am sorry, I don't think I could trudge through their books. Even the ones that might provide the data to reinforce my subjective opinion (such as Clinton Cash) are just too much of the same horrible tales of "getting away with it" and the other sides would just be "how to get away with it".
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