Correct, if being a woman is only a body and not a mental attitude. ZA painful indigence indeed. What's the harm? The body now resembles female. Also, I think we make too much of nudity and bodily functions. All mammals work the same way. The only thing that makes it a big deal is traditions based on biblical commands as a way of further pushing male superiority. If nudity was common, you could bet that some other function would be taboo. Perhaps eating. That might become a bodily function only performed behind closed doors, allowing for a messy act, cleaned up for presentation afterwards. We waste too much time on the unimportant which takes away from the important.

Are you referring to the fact the ALL the original states had religious qualification laws in the 18th century?!?

No they haven't. All they've done is gone to an extreme to indulge a fantasy. If you have a y-chromosome, you'll never be a woman. Period.

Let's just deal with some FACTS. If you have a y-chromosome, you're a man, regardless of your fantasies to the contrary. Since when is one's fantasies a license to invade the privacy of the women's bathroom, which is a private, safe place for a woman to handle her private business?!? What they're conflating is one's physical characteristics, like race or ethnicity (and even gender) with one's behavior driven by a fantasy. One's FEELINGS have no place in law, only FACTS. Enacting laws based on one's feelings negates any pretense at legal protection, and renders the law into a sick joke. Just because a surgeon can manipulate one's plumbing, to reinforce the fantasy doesn't change the fact that the dreamer has a y-chromosome. In the final analysis, DNA trumps the fantasy. If one wants to indulge such a fantasy, knock yourself out. Just don't attempt to rope all of society into the game. Leave others alone, and enjoy the flight of fancy.

We need a laissez-faire system so that private
property owners can set the policy on their own
private property. As to publicly-owned buildings
(courhouses, etc.) the men should stick with the
men and the women should stick with the women. Maybe some people are born into the
wrong sex and need a sex change operation. I
don't know. But the rule in regard to that should
be that, until you get such an operation, you
stick with the sex you were born into, and whose
genital equipment you have on your body, re-
gardless of your psychological feelings about it.

Protect the individual from force and fraud.

I know...the very thought is an anathema to most "government organizations" (an oxymoron to be sure).

PayPal favors pedophiles and other perverts, apparently, having their way with children and women. Why else approve an ordinance which allows sexually confused individuals to choose the facilities they feel comfortable in utilizing at the moment. What a bunch of PC moronic ingoramuses.

"The role of government is to protect "boundaries" around the individual."

Wait... what?

This is about common sense, not the hurting of other people. Absurd.

MikeM: I appreciate your originality and often refreshing views on different subjects. I am trying to understand your point on this topic.

Your 2nd paragraph, " Human society has been moving...", is powerful- why must it come through the bathroom door?

I really have no idea what your comment was supposed to say.

The original statute passed by the Charlotte city council mandated that all businesses in Charlotte subordinate their patrons' and employees' rights to privacy in restrooms to those of a few. Those few claim that their right to gender self-identification entitles them to ignore the rights to privacy of everyone else. That's just wrong any way you slice it. That's the tyranny of the minority trampling over the right of the individual to own themselves (privacy is derived from the right to own one's self).

I don't know if it's really 1%, but it appears to be concentrated in industries creating value. If your claim is true people like their Google, Netflix, Amazon, PayPal, but not the people who make them.

Blarman: Well said. This is a world gone mad where minorities make the rules!

The role of government is to protect "boundaries" around the individual.
We normally (as Objectivists) define the term "boundaries" as protection against force and fraud.
Personally, I view this push to change gender norms and the promotion of "feelings" as a tool of cognition to be very disturbing.
This isn't an argument of "ignorance vs. enlightenment". Rather it is an argument about the primacy of reason and reality vs. the primacy of feelings.
Just in case no one here has noticed, the Left uses a lot of false guilt and shame to manipulate to get their way.

What our country needs is radically reduced federal government power and size. Leave things to the states who compete with each other for citizens. That way we move with our feet to other places. I moved to Nevada from California 20 years ago to avoid the higher taxes and regulations, and I am happy I did. Now the taxes and regulations have been imported from california and its time to move away from Nevada

No it wouldn't mean as much. But for the same reason you would not hire a bank robber as a clerk at a bank you would look askance at a registered sex offender who is trying to get access to the women's restroom. And you would rightly question his motives. It is very reasonable to assume that he is just trying to get the opportunity to commit more of his perverse Acts. Why is that so hard to understand?

Exactly!
And mark my words, rapes will happen. It nearly did to me, back in my college days. I was in a somewhat deserted part of the building when I got caught short. I dashed into the ladies room and there was a man, pants down and waiting. I ran like hell.

Actually, my opinion of religious freedom.

I don't actually care, I'm not homophobic, I just get offended when I'm being "forced" to comply with something. I have my rights and my religious freedom as well.

There are both the discriminatory issues, and there are also the issues of expectation of privacy for the majority which are not LGBT, the issue in NC is mostly about which bathroom and locker room is used, not some activity that precludes them from marriage, living somewhere, etc. LGBT is also not a protected-class as identified by the ADA either, so in my opinion reasonable accommodation does not apply.

The 'bullying' tactics are exactly that - Trump can't give a speech because the Bernie voters will burn down the city. Well, that completely infringes on the rights of Trump and any of his followers. NC can't pass a law that protects 96% of their population's right to privacy because PayPal and Apple might not put their next office there. Really?

Has anyone ever thought that the practice of allowing cross-dressers in high school to do whatever they want might not be taken advantage of by young pranksters that are simply not a cross-dresser or transgender? When I was a kid, I might have put on a dress to use the girl's locker room for a couple of days. Particularly in college in the fall when no one knows who is supposed to be there. The easiest answer is, use the one that matches your plumbing. Case solved. That's all they did.

Can't the atheists get a religion-change operation?
(sarcasm)

Well said, Stormi.

Me Old Dino me have me idea.
Me gonna eats lots of beans and cabbage.
Me gonna put on dress and go into Paypal ladies room.
Me gonna sing in a stall songs about the joy of flatulence.
Then me come out still singing and farting, now dancing, tearing off sheets of toilet paper and tossing sheets high into the air.
That tearing off sheets bit is to add a feminine touch to me repertoire.

His crime is what it was. He was convicted and served a sentence. If his crime had been something else, would matter so much to you?

I recommend carrying a reservoir type catheter.
If #2 is the problem, a self sealing baggy and toilet tissue can be carried if needed.
If, on the other hand, the person in question has gone through the pain of surgery and hormonal replacement, then they should be allowed to go to whichever facility they have been re-sexed for. They have paid the price of admission.

The question is not from whom you accept business, but where you locate your business. Also, of course, you must pick your battles. The city of Charlotte is an agency of change in North Carolina, as are the 100 corporations that otherwise would have considered it as a place of business.