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Trump: Primary Three functions of government are Healthcare, Education, Security

Posted by $ blarman 9 years, 11 months ago to Politics
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This wasn't even a gotcha question. It was an open-ended solicitation for opinion. That Donald Trump thinks this is the role of government tells me all I need to know about his suitability to be President. He either doesn't understand the proper role of government, or he is just as socialist as Bernie and Hillary. Either way it tells me what my research has continued to tell me all along: Trump will not be a Constitutional President if elected.


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  • Posted by $ WilliamShipley 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Certainly the people on the Democratic side absolutely believe in that and more -- much more.

    I'm not going for all-or-nothing. If I can get a President who will not only slow down the path toward socialism but actually move the dial back a little in some areas -- I'll consider it a pretty good deal.

    The progressives will always increment government control and we are the frogs slowly being boiled. Anyone who tries to take away any of their "gains' will be subjected to a blistering attack by the media. We need someone who can stand up to that.

    Does Trump's positions match my goals? Not entirely but then no one's do. If we can scale back the government even a little it will be a major accomplishment.

    Cruz matches my positions better but I doubt his ability to actually implement -- other than signing executive orders.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Trump's mouth is often one step ahead of his mind.
    He kinda reminds me of a favorite snack called stegosaurus.
    Old Dino once read that paleontologists believe that critter had two brains. One was in its head and the other was near its butt.
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  • Posted by scojohnson 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I'm not disputing your point or your position, I agree with it. I'm just pointing out that technically, he is not necessarily wrong.

    I personally think that certain things, only government 'can do' and ensure they are done - I wouldn't want to rely on the local police force contract for example, although we kind of do with unions, but to the greatest extent possible - police and fire protection need to be there without getting a bill in the mail for showing up after calling them.

    I don't like to weigh-in on public education, I had a fantastic public school education in a rural area of northern Minnesota where the entire town's focus was quality education. Many in my high school class went on to the armed forces, medical school, advanced degrees, excluding a few that chose to stay there and drink themselves to death. But I know public education can work, it comes down to management and our unwillingness to fire people that are incompetent, so problems fester and corruption becomes rampant.

    I also think that a minimum level of healthcare should be part of the social safety net, not necessarily plastic surgery & what-not, but we shouldn't have people dying of typhoid in the streets and if we did something about mental health, the homelessness in our cities would diminish greatly. To a large extent, their ability to get a job (in an able to work sense) can lead to getting them off the same safety net. We just don't do anything to encourage that social climb, that's the problem. Putting my general belief and theory into a workable plan with a union-driven local government is an entirely different issue and problem.

    The government does a decent job of running the military, but there are no unions there and if you don't follow an order, you will probably be court-martialed or face an Article 15 Summary Judgement.
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    Posted by $ 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "If one listened closely, trump said security was the most important function of federal government, federal dept of education should be closed and should be a state thing,and medical care should be private."

    Yes, but then those shouldn't be roles of the Federal Government, should they? What Trump should have said if he really believes the above (which I question) is to turn the question on its head and say "Here are three things the Federal Government should not be involved in: Education, Healthcare, and ..." The way he said it was to declare one thing and then attempt to backtrack and reverse his position. At the very least it is confusing and terrible communications. At worst it is an openly contradictory statement. And given that Trump has even recently stated he was in favor of single-payer, I can't really take anything Donald Trump says at face value.

    I think one of the things that bothers me about Trump is that he doesn't give thoughtful answers. Look at the transcripts to any one of his interview sessions and he's always trying to jump in and say something before the interviewer finishes asking the question. (Now Trump isn't the only one - Chris Matthews does the same thing.) A huge part of communications is actually listening to the other person - not just listening to yourself yammer on. What I think happened here is that "The Donald" was so impatient to talk that he didn't stop to thoroughly think through the question and form a cohesive and cogent answer. Any time I listen to Trump all I hear is someone more interested in hearing themselves talk than actually give consideration to the question being asked. That is a serious flaw in my book. Silence is very useful sometimes in communication because it gives everyone a chance to stop and think, instead of going off on knee-jerk reactions. As we saw with the whole wife attack, Trump was very eager to jump into the fray there without doing research; without any thought.
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  • Posted by evlwhtguy 9 years, 11 months ago
    The guy is a train Wreck. The Republican party has so POd the electorate we are nominating the loudest guy on the bus. On the other hand....how much worse could he be than what we have had? As long as we don't get Bernie the commie or the wicked witch of the west..AKA...Hillary! He is the least bad of a bad lot. Lets hope maybe Cruze pulls out ahead.
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  • Posted by $ 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The question is all about who should be taking an active hand at a federal level. Yes, education is important, but as history shows it works much better when it is local and not run by government. Same for healthcare.
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  • Posted by term2 9 years, 11 months ago
    The trump haters, with Cooper right up there. Tried to trash trump any way he could in that town hall. He favored the other two candidates to the point I turned it off and have no interest in watching Anderson Cooper again for anything really.
    If one listened closely, trump said security was the most important function of federal government, federal dept of education should be closed and should be a state thing,and medical care should be private.

    If the idiot Cooper had asked the other two candidates the same questions, I really doubt any of them would have promoted dissolution of all public school right now, and dissolution of all Medicare and medicaid right now. Not even the conditional and bible thumping Cruz
    No president today could get Congress to go along with those things. At least trump wants to scale them back. That's a good thing. Kasich wouldn't scale anything back and Cruz would want to put his into government

    There are no John galts running for president in ,2016. The closest was rand Paul and look how far he got. And even if a John galt became president by some accident, the establishment Congress elected by the philosophically challenged citizens would certainly oppose him at every turn

    Before we get a John galt as president, major philosophical changes are required
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  • Posted by RonC 9 years, 11 months ago
    That's not the way I read my Constitution.
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  • Posted by scojohnson 9 years, 11 months ago
    We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

    I don't know if the framers had healthcare in mind, but in a modern era, I suppose that could be "promoting the general welfare" and most certainly education is part of that.

    I don't think anyone is going to deny that a sound educational system is essential to our Republic, and to its economic growth - but whether the government 'directs' or just provides some resource assistance is another matter.
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  • Posted by $ 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It is an overt contradiction (and/or inexcusable ignorance) to state first that one of the jobs of the Federal Government is healthcare and then attempt to backtrack and say that it should be private. Trump's prior support has always been for government-run healthcare and earlier on the campaign trail he openly called for a single-payer system!

    But Trump also said Education was a Federal task. This again highlights how clueless Trump is about the proper role of government and the Constitutional separation of powers. Someone who is running for the highest office in the land (and arguably the world) should know better.
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  • Posted by $ WilliamShipley 9 years, 11 months ago
    COOPER: And federal health care run by the federal government?

    TRUMP: Health care - we need health care for our people. We need a good - Obamacare is a disaster. It's proven to be...

    COOPER: But is that something the federal government should be doing?

    TRUMP: The government can lead it, but it should be privately done. It should be privately done. So that health care - in my opinion, we should probably have - we have to have private health care. We don't have competition in health care.
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  • Posted by Abaco 9 years, 11 months ago
    Blarman...none of them understand it. None of them will be Constitutional.

    Welcome to why I quit voting.
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    Posted by freedomforall 9 years, 11 months ago
    Trump is still a liberal democrat statist.
    Get a clue sheeple. The GOP just wants to harvest you, and HRM Donnie is only different in that he doesn't hide it as well. The Democrats just want power. None of the above care a bit about individual liberty, free markets, or constitutional limits on government.
    The choice for voters couldn't be clearer.
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    Posted by edweaver 9 years, 11 months ago
    His true colors are starting to show through. Unfortunately I don't think his supporters will pay any attention. They are all in, hook, line and sinker. Unfortunately it is just about too late to turn back. My biggest fear right now is he will be worse than Clinton and somewhat equal to the Bern. Did I just say that? Yikes
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