Trump: Primary Three functions of government are Healthcare, Education, Security
This wasn't even a gotcha question. It was an open-ended solicitation for opinion. That Donald Trump thinks this is the role of government tells me all I need to know about his suitability to be President. He either doesn't understand the proper role of government, or he is just as socialist as Bernie and Hillary. Either way it tells me what my research has continued to tell me all along: Trump will not be a Constitutional President if elected.
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Trump is under constant attack by establishment people. He gets blindsided all the time by people who want to make him look bad. Thats a terrible thing to have to deal with, and its why presidents have handlers who tell him through teleprompters what to say. But you get Obama promising to get us out of Iraq and Afghanistan during the election, and yet we are still over there 8 years later.
Hillary is bought and paid for. She has powerful supporters. She will get the election with her "superdelegates" no matter what Sanders does. I would rather Sanders wins the democratic nomination actually. He is more honest and lays out his plans for all to see. Hillary is just telling us what her handlers tell her to say.
I dont listen to polls run by people who have a vested interest. He would do best against Hillary I think than any of the other candidates.
Tell me how Kasich could possible win against hillary if he can only win one repub state primary out of 30-something. And how could Cruz win against hillary if he is way far below Trump in voter support. Just doesnt make sense to me. Maybe Trump would lose against Hillary, but that just means the country is too far gone socialist to be even slowed down
The philosophical argument for a conservative will always start with "No", and the next question is 'then what?' and it's not a good place to be in for the argument.
I think we do too much in most cases, and we don't get any return on the dollar invested. Delivery, effectiveness and efficiency is going to be the mechanism of the debate between right and left, but whether we should do those things I don't think is really in question. Yes, we should. How and how much is always going to be the argument.
We also have the question of when parents abdicate their duties. If they neglect and ignore their kids, society will probably inherit the problem. Is it in the country's best interest to require those kids to attend school and get an education. I'd argue yes -because we are respecting the children's rights to life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness - because their parents inaction trespasses on their children's rights.
Rights and freedoms are always yours, in my opinion, until they infringe on someone else's rights. I'll defend liberty, and have with a rifle and blood, and I'll defend the blessings of liberty and freedom of speech, until someone denies that right that someone else has.
Same thing with others, airports and hospitals are expensive and the pooled resources of the nation can benefit us as a whole, because you don't build those every day. Some states with a lot of resources like California and New York are really just 'donor states' and never get back what their populace pays in, if they get 60 cents on the dollar, they are lucky, and it does necessarily lead to higher taxes in those states. Others, like Alaska, get back $1.50 or more on the dollar they contribute. That doesn't make it right or wrong, it's probably strength of their politicians. California and New York are also dead-last in the primary season if you notice, so we're very, very low on the 'promises' lists.
What I'm saying is that he's not necessarily wrong, if anything, it's the educated answer to the question because the detail wasn't asked.
2) He came out saying gays should be kicked out the military (and that would be for religious reasons). I think soldiers should be hired for their ability, whether gay, straight, female, etc.- not on religious grounds. He also bible thumps, which makes me nervous. I am not into religious tenets written in books thousands of years ago and not questioned since then, having given that stuff up when I was a kid. What else is "god" going to tell Cruz to do- I sure dont know.
3) Deal making has a very bad name when it comes to how much you want to take from me, or the other way around. We are a 50-50 country now. Whatever is voted on seems to steal from me and give to someone else. I would rather NO deals be made on issues like that. That said, in a socialist country like we have, a president would have to simply announce a veto of all new laws for his presidency, and not permit any increases in taxes of any kind or any new taxes. I would vote for that actually, but a candidate would have to lie about it during the election, and just DO it once elected in this philosophical
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4) What would have happened if Repubs had NOT opposed the expansion of socialism? We got an example with Obamacare. Not to say Repubs are free market advocates, but they have offered some slowing down of socialism on occasion.
5) Trump is anti establishment, which is why he is the subject of so much hatred from it. Sanders is also anti establishment, and somehwat honest also (which I respect). He comes out and tells us he is socialist and what he wants to do (which the congress would probably go along with, unfortunately).
5) We dont need another preacher like Obama or Hillary or Cruz for that matter. They all appeal to emotions that allow for the establishment to continue. Where do you think Cruz or Hillary gets their contributions (how about Goldman Sachs and wall street). At least Trump is on his own and doesnt have to pander to them.
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Trump has a track record of efficiently completing tasks, but more importantly delegating responsibility to experts and trusting and acting on that advice. The ability to delegate and trust the results is something that is sorely lacking in government - the existing preference is to ignore the problem until you retire and let someone else deal with it.
hehe. If only. I think that's been primarily relegated to the X-Files now. ;)
"Trump is not run by political correctness, which is one thing I like about him."
Political correctness is one thing. It is quite another to fly off at the mouth in undisciplined response about every topic that comes up. Would Hillary be worse for this nation? I don't doubt it. But let's not put the cart before the horse. Trump hasn't secured the nomination - nor has Hillary. Until those respective events take place, I will keep my options open.
I would also point out that Trump fares very badly in polls in a one-on-one contest against Hillary Clinton. The only poll in which Trump wins is the Fox poll, and even in that one it is a statistical ties. In many of the others he's getting blown out as bad as John McCain to Obama in the 2008 election.
As to medical care, I would still like it ot be private. The problem with insurance is that at one time or another we will all need a lot of medical care. Its not like flood insurance, where nonly a few people will actually use it. Everyone is going to get sick and eventually die, so an argument could be made that overall, the amount you pay in premiums should cover quite a large set of bills that you will incur.
Regarding deal-making, that's all we've been getting from Republicans for twenty years. What has it gotten us? $20 trillion in debt, an expansion in welfare programs, terrible trade deals, and an even worse foreign policy. I don't want the idea of getting things done to "trump" (pun intended) getting things right! I want a principled President who isn't afraid to turn President Obama's own refusal to negotiate with Republicans back on the heads of the Democrats! The art of deal-making is first and foremost to know what position you have and know what lines you will not cross. I don't see Trump as being able to draw those lines.
Are Trump's supporters mad at the GOP Establishment and standard Washington politics? Yup. And so are Ted Cruz'. And so are Bernie Sanders' for that matter. But mob rule is a ridiculous claim to authority or substantiation for moral character. In a forum where the participants value logical thought and reason, we recognize as have many throughout history that democracy's Achilles' heel is the passionate mob. We don't need another Barack Obama who plays on the emotions of the voters. We need someone to educate voters on why socialist policies will destroy this nation.
Methods, efficiency, and effectiveness are the realm for political debate, but ultimately those three things and probably a couple of more are in the government's wheelhouse in some way, shape, or form. I'm not an anarchist, I believe in a necessary and 'good' government. I believe in limited government as well, but essential services are just that "essential".
There was once a day when a country doctor could open up a shop that was built on his own land, or the land was given to him/her, no mortgage, a few pennies a day for a secretary or whatever and cash-payment for services rendered. With pharmaceutical therapy, lease payments of thousands of dollars per use on an MRI/CT/PET scanners, radiology, etc., it's not practical to do purely fee for service and ultimately some societal level baseline support is needed for modern medicine (whether that is HMOs, PPO's, single-payer, whatever) again is an argument for political theory.
We can then move onto whether the government should, for example, be employing 3 million federal civil servants and at least as many contractors, whether it should be sponsoring (paying for) advanced research, or if the EPA should be regulating small businesses or if there should even be a minimum wage statute. I'll gladly take on those conversations as well and always with a very "90%" far-right leaning - I'm not pegging the red line on conservatism, but I'm pretty darn close. One of the largest line-items in the budget behind Medicare & Social Security and Defense is going to be the Earned Income Tax Credit. If you pay in $600 for income taxes, you sure-as-shit shouldn't be getting a $9,000 tax refund. So promoting the common welfare is a responsibility for government, income redistribution most certainly is not.
Again, whether that is the business of government is enumerated in the Constitution. That slightly-off-redline in me will also acknowledge that the framers didn't foresee strip-mining or petrochemicals, so we probably do need an efficient and effective environmental control and I believe the forests and natural beauty of our country should be protected indefinitely with the national park system. Or, quite honestly, people would destroy those things. I live near Folsom, California, people think we have these weird little molehills everywhere, no, that's the tailings from the gold dredges that dug 100 feet down in the American River Valley and spit out 2 inch rocks in literally, thousands of 40-foot tall piles along its banks. I don't believe in destroying the rights of future generations to enjoy our heritage, we're not Chinese.
So, responsibility yes, how that is executed is very debatable and I'll be on the conservative side of the aisle in all cases.
Trump is not run by political correctness, which is one thing I like about him. Running in the public arena is ALL about political correctness and appearing one way or another to gain votes (unfortunately). I am not surprised therefore that the so called reporters trap him in ways to show he isnt politically correct. He may never survive this, but it would be unfortunate to be saddled with the evil witch woman who is VERY good at handling political correctness and telling a majority what they want to hear. Of course after being elected, she will simply do what her contributors tell her to do (As Obama has done)
The proper functions of government are crime prevention, security from invasion, and peaceful dispute resolution.
Trump needs to stop whining about how everyone is treating him "unfairly". He ought to read Bill Gates' book about rules for business. #1 is that life isn't fair and just get over it. (I also like one of the others which is never make fun of nerds because you're likely to end up working for one.)
Same thing with federal health care. I had a lot better insurance situation BEFORE obamacare. It cost me 1/3 as much and there was $1000 max out of pocket instead of $6000+. Obamacare has NO competition and should be repealed.
Perhaps, but the way he said it was at best confusing and at worst contradictory. Trump would have done better to just pause, collect his thoughts and then respond that they were three important issues facing our nation, but that he would say healthcare and education were better handled by the private sector. The way he actually phrased it established one line of thinking and his details went the other way.
"I personally think that certain things, only government 'can do' and ensure they are done"
I agree. I think there are some things most effectively and efficiently done at a governmental level. The question is at which level is a particular service Constitutional and, secondly, most effective.
"But I know public education can work, it comes down to management and our unwillingness to fire people that are incompetent..."
You admirably point out the keys that make it either work (or not). But I think we will both agree that education is best done at a local level and that the Federal Government should get out of the way entirely. I've see both sides of both public and private education and seen flaws either way.
"I also think that a minimum level of healthcare should be part of the social safety net..."
I think we would both agree, however, that the Federal Government should not be involved in healthcare at all - not only because it is unConstitutional, but because it is inefficient and ineffective. Even at a State level, however, I would argue that it is a slippery slope argument and that it only exacerbates perhaps the biggest problem in the healthcare system: the third-party payer problem. I say it is a slippery slope because then you're getting into which services and procedures you're going to cover and which ones you aren't, which is bound to be mired in politics. The easier solution is to allow patients and doctors to negotiate directly on services and payments. If one wants to allow a patient to submit such expenses for payment by a government safety net, I will allow that the Ninth and Tenth Amendment seem to put those powers in the nands of the States to try out.
"The government does a decent job of running the military, but there are no unions..."
Lol. I'm just trying to imagine what a union-run military could even look like. I'm just getting pictures of a battlefield commander ordering a recovery unit out to repair a damaged tank and the recovery unit lieutenant responding to the order with "Well, we're on break right now, but we'll get back to it in another half-hour. And those repairs are probably going to take a couple of days to complete because that kind of work requires two extra guys to hand us parts..."
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