The Constitution and Immigration.

Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years, 1 month ago to Culture
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Now you'll see whom is a citizen: ex. Cruz: His mother was naturally under the jurisdiction and his father had agreed to that jurisdiction.

But most important! You'll see what illegals and muslims Reject to be subjected to the American Jurisdiction, They do not agree with our social compact, to abide by the same laws and language.
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  • Posted by Dobrien 8 years, 1 month ago
    Their is no consent agreement with those groups no equal relationship no desire to assimilate .As noted by Jefferson we are now subservient to foreign invaders by that lack of consent.
    Why isn't the constitution being followed ?

    Aren't oaths taken to uphold the freedom parchment?
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    • Posted by $ 8 years, 1 month ago
      Correct and that is why we need strict Constitutionalist in government, that keeps them accountable to us and the social compact we have with each other and the Constitution of America.

      I have often said, in the light of "Multiculturalism" in the world today: America is NOT a multicultural nation...it is a nation of ONE culture made up of many. - refers to the social compact and jurisdiction in one felt swoop!
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      • Posted by Dobrien 8 years, 1 month ago
        1 olduglycarl !! Even with all the checks and balances our forefathers considered to defend the constitution for us. An ignorant enough public is the greatest weakness for our republic.
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        • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 1 month ago
          All it took was two amendments. One dismantled checks and balances stripping the States of their power and the other gave us income tax stripping the citizens of their power Mix well with a hundred years of increasingly left wing fascist governments and voila....shit stew.
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          • Posted by jetmec 8 years, 1 month ago
            How can they be left wing and fascist at the same time?
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            • Posted by $ 8 years, 1 month ago
              It's more like Max G on left and 0 G on the right...as in the case for America...slightly right of center is where we were designed to be.
              Just like creation...max entropy to 0 entropy; add just the right amount of resistance to keep things even...slightly right of center.
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            • Posted by mccannon01 8 years, 1 month ago
              They're both statist. IMHO, the notion of the political spectrum is somehow left (communist) to right (fascist) and freedom is somewhere in between on a line is a false notion. I'd rather picture a circle with freedom on one point and totalitarianism at the exact opposite point on the circle. Start at freedom and move left and you end at totalitarianism, travel right and you end at the same place. Unfortunately, once there, too often the way back to freedom is bloody.
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            • Posted by Dobrien 8 years, 1 month ago
              The way they are corrupt lying employing cronyism, controlling the media (propaganda) ,
              Police state , NSA spying 12/31/2015 law destroying citizens rights. Getting population to support false narrative. Turning population against enemies this time not another country but differing view points or maybe Patriots with in US. That covers the fascist part fairly well . Protect corporate interests destroy the middle class.......
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  • Posted by $ blarman 8 years, 1 month ago
    The one section in there that stuck out to me is that of Madison in reference to the Citizens of a society such as the United States:
    "As there is a degree of depravity in mankind which requires a certain degree of circumspection and distrust: So there are other qualities in human nature, which justify a certain portion of esteem and confidence. Republican government presupposes the existence of these qualities in a higher degree than any other form. Were the pictures which have been drawn by the political jealousy of some among us, faithful likenesses of the human character, the inference would be that there is not sufficient virtue among men for self-government; and that nothing less than the chains of despotism can restrain them from destroying and devouring one another."

    This one goes hand in hand with John Adams assertion that "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."
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    • Posted by $ 8 years, 1 month ago
      And the common denominator is Conscience. Those that have and those that have not. Those that have are conscious human beings and has slowly become evident over the past 3000 years.
      Those that have not have never changed but have assumed the worst about themselves and others and concerted their efforts to make everyone in their own image. This is what we call, pathological criminals and progressives.
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      • Posted by $ blarman 8 years, 1 month ago
        Is conscience then, in your opinion, and outgrowth of logic? Maybe you can describe what conscience is and what role it takes for just a moment so I do not misinterpret your comment.
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        • Posted by $ 8 years, 1 month ago
          Over simplified but conscience is an awareness of ones involvement or considered involvement in a act or thought and it's rightfullness or wrongfullness...in other words the consequences of such thoughts or action and how that applies to one's own self interest. Yes that is the basis of logic and much of it comes out of a natural understanding by those humanly conscious and that consciousness has it's basis in the mind...an electromagnetic field outside the head and a consequence of the vibrational patterns of the brain.
          And yes, in a sense, it can be taught, assimilated and compartmentalized in the brain as a necessity of survival. Much of our learning starts this way but through conscious engagement as we age and experience it should become integrated into behaviors.
          It is an observation I've made that there are in fact some throughout history that have not gone through this process and it seems to be a genetic pattern in those that have wished to and have ruled over others.
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          • Posted by $ blarman 8 years, 1 month ago
            Thanks for the clarification. The way you use it seems to be that conscience and consciousness are interchangeable. I have seen some use consciousness and conscience to indicate very different things so I wanted to clarify. Many view conscience as that little feeling inside one's self that initially helps one identify right/wrong (see Jiminy Cricket in Disney's "Pinocchio").
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            • Posted by $ 8 years, 1 month ago
              The latter is accurate...and it depends upon consciousness without which conscience could not exist. They are not the same nor interchangeable but one depends upon the other.
              Some have asked if it's possible to be conscious without conscience, could one's learned ideology determine the level and accuracy of one conscience- (as in justification), One might make that objective observation that it is possible as anything is possible but I have difficulty in seeing any degree of probability but I am open to the idea that I might be in denial here because my own conscious seems to be so profoundly powerful to me.
              In Dr. DaDamo's book "Genotype" , my genotype is described as having an overwhelming propensity toward fair play. Maybe that's why.
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              • Posted by $ blarman 8 years, 1 month ago
                Well put.

                I haven't seen the book you are referring to. Sounds like an interesting read. Thank you for the suggestion.
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                • Posted by $ 8 years, 1 month ago
                  Thank you and your welcome.
                  The most valuable part of this site, this blog, is the available resources.
                  That much we each have in abundance and as you can see, we share that abundance before anyone could even think about waving their fore finger in our direction. That sharing of abundance is natural and pervades humans right down to the cellular level.
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  • Posted by DeanStriker 8 years, 1 month ago
    Okay, GOVERNments all have had the powers of Force, forever. Such was the first and fatal mistake of our beloved Founders.

    We "citizens" are merely Gov's Subjects, prohibited the use of Force.

    Thinking Humans ought to have Reasoned and should know better.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 8 years, 1 month ago
    There is no consent in place with the Amish, which shows it's possible for a separate culture to exist in peace within our system. The difference is that the most severe form of Islam insists it has to be supreme in governance, as well as spiritual matters, and it's members must subjugate non-believers. As has been said, "How do we coexist with people who want to kill us?"

    We'd like to think that simply welcoming persons from a different culture and including them in our social circle will serve to help them assimilate. The problem is that even with this effort, the radical Muslim couple in California had no problem slaughtering co-workers who had only recently given them a baby shower.

    Oaths don't work with Muslims either, as the Koran permits them to lie if it promotes the goals of the faith. We have to ask ourselves if there is a serious distinction between a peaceful religion and a murderous theocratic belief, and whether or not an argument can be made to disenfranchise the followers of such a system.
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 1 month ago
    Cruz is a canadian for all practical purposes. He is also at least a (pretend) religious zealot. Enough for me to dismiss him as a potential president of the US.

    Hildebeast is a chameleon and not a real human. She has no principles whatever (religious or otherwise), and simply tells people what they want to hear so she can get money from wall street and be a powerfully endowed puppet (like Obama actually).
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    • Posted by $ 8 years, 1 month ago
      He renounced...canada doesn't care about another countries jurisdiction...they love anchor babies
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      • Posted by term2 8 years, 1 month ago
        I think that where you are raised has profound effects on ones deepest conscious and subconscious thinking (what we would call the effect of culture). Canada is pretty much openly socialist. Nice friendly people, but their ideas of government arent great at all.
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