I don't see a menu...with items. lol

It too early to say anything. Suggestion: A grass roots web movement to write in Allen West or Mark Lee. If you're going to note vote then at least use it to make a statement.

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http://allenbwest.com/2014/04/5000-legal...

What "NEW area"?

My grandmother was apparently a genteel German. (Haha!)

Regarding different standards of morality, I addressed this above, where I said, "By "morality," I don't really mean laws trying to dictate personal choices about pornography, drugs, prostitution or the like. I mean morality under natural law, with the bottom line rule that we each own ourselves and should be free to do as we wish, as long as we don't initiate force against another person."

In my view, people are free to believe whatever they like, but if they harm another person, they are immoral. (Of course, guilt is a bit more complicated than that: was the action intended or accidental; could the actor reasonably foresee it would cause harm, etc.) And I'd like to see laws that go no further than forbidding the initiation of force against others.

I guess you have to live here and experience it for yourself. We will have to agree t disagree. No worries there are plenty who call me those things for no other reason that standing vocally (and in writing) on the side of the US and lawfulness.

You should see my other post in the NEW area...then tell me how little harm these people do. if you'd like I can post 1-5 a day from Arizona alone to support my position.

I'm sorry, but I just don't think that causation necessarily follows from the woman who hit your sister being an illegal immigrant. She was an individual who behaved recklessly and injured someone else, and I would be totally on board with making her - and her alone - pay for her wrong behavior. And it's absurd that the police let her leave the scene, and then the country.

I was in fact rear-ended by a ditzy blond sorority girl several decades ago while I was stopped at a stop sign. Actually, she hit my car not once but twice, after I pulled forward to check the damage. I still have neck pain and headaches as a result. If I were to adopt your logic, I'd be insisting on a ban on Swedish or blond immigrants, or perhaps on sororities. Instead, I realize that there are plenty of intelligent blonds and sorority girls who are careful and have never hurt anyone, and I would not want to punish them for the "sins" of another person.

I don't believe at this point that you're racist, sexist, or xenophopic, but I do think there's a flaw in your reasoning on this particular topic. (My two cent's worth...)

I voted for Perot both in '92 & '96. I'd vote for him again.

I guess that makes 4 for Perot!

Would you drive if you were impaired to that extent? I wouldn't! My grandmother gave up her driving privileges voluntarily in her 90s when she realized she could be putting herself and others at risk, and I think that's the moral thing to do. So, for your great-grandfather, as described, I'd say zero miles per hour is the moral speed limit. But I would hope it would be self-imposed, as we're each responsible for our choices and actions, and any damage they may cause.

I voted for Perot as well. I think it worked out okay. Led to the Republicans taking the house and senate.

I voted Perot. In hindsight, I'm not too sure he wasn't funded by Clinton to detract from Bush Sr.

No underestimate the stupidity of the American people. I did, it was a rude awakening.

He doesn't give a rats ass about anyone but himself and he is pandering for votes from hispanics, since you don't have any choice but to vote GOP. Where is an honest version of Perot ?

You are so right. I live in Oregon, a true sanctuary state. The men work for cash or do not claim they have a family so the women can have babies and collect welfare in all forms. I see theses families constantly at the grocery store, the men in Levi's driving 50K pick up trucks with fancy rims. The women bringing at least 5 kids along, buying all their food with a food stamp card, not speaking a word of English, while their kids run rampant through the store. I have been to Mexico and the children do not act this way there. They are being taught the entitlement mentality and really believe that all of the United States not only belongs to them but owes them everything they desire. I have spoken to the teenagers and they are angry at America for stealing all the land from Mexico and the sick part is this attitude is reinforced in school. I say that good old jeb and his ilk come on over to my neighborhood for a while and see what it is really like to see your area turn into a little Tiajuana. Not one single place where the illegals have settled is better for their presence. Feel the love on my streets you idiot. And by the way, we have no sales tax in Oregon, so they won't pay consumption tax here anyway. Anyway, I hope jeb just continues to shoot himself in the foot.

Ok, then I am going into the finger and thumb repair biz.

It seems that they ( illegal aliens ) have a population that includes roughly the same number of jerks as the rest of the population. They are however more noticeable since their English sucks. Back in Milwaukee I was next door to some folks who were mostly not legal residents. He ran a contracting business, and none of the employees had papers. They were mostly relatives from Oaxaca. They were a very sought after bunch when it came to repairing foundations, or chimneys or pretty much anything that involved concrete. They were also very excellent neighbors. Heck, I would go so far as to say they were the best ones I have ever had. The problem with our current immigration system is that it is a Byzantine mess. To top it off the handouts pretty much start right away. To even more top it off we do not have immigration parity with anyone. Our system pretty much sucks, but we have a system that pretty much sucks less than every other system.

Absolutely.