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The Colbert Report: Common Core Confusion

Posted by Maphesdus 11 years, 3 months ago to Education
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    1. Even though the system is troubled, people appear to help people navigate it.

    2. I have heard this is always a problem- if you hear an answer, even if it's wrong, you may remember it. So if you hear, "a study shows the mainstream vaccines recommended for kids are not dangerous," it's easy to remember "I heard something bad vaccines.

    I know that's a little different ,but it's the idea of even reading the wrong answer can make you remember the wrong way.

    3. Regarding there always being a private angle, we had never planned to use public schools. We had a bad experience with one private school, and now we're going to give a try. If we don't like it we an always switch. We interviewed several places, and the public option seemed about equal. I can see paying $11k per kid when the scales appear pretty close to balanced. Any nonsense, though, and they're heading to a school that will work with us. I thought all private schools would work with us. I never dreamed I'd be in a now 6-mo legal battle with a bunch of hippies, but that's exactly where we are. It sounds crazy, but we're in a hard-core battle that started over 10k buck. We'll spend that much in attorneys, but the hippies made me mad. Just watch an episode of Portlandia to see the humorous side of it.
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  • Posted by khalling 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    My duaghter's best friend and my "adopted" daughter, to earn extra bucks runs a Mathnasium. It's a tutoring center K-12. They have to use worksheets which are CORE curriculum approved but their company publishes themselves. She often runs across these innane worksheets but understands the lingo used that's foreign to most of us. Some of it is reasonable, however, adds steps to solving problems which end up confusing many students. For instance, the one worksheet that has been going around asks kids to group a triple digit number into 100s, 10s ones. For the tactile learner this is great. Because they look at number 312 and only understand it in abstraction. Some kids can hang out in the abstraction, and understand doing stuff with 312 (adding, subtracting, multiplying). But eventually the tactile learner will have problems unless they have already learned to "see" the number 312 broken down and others, and so on. Her complaint with many of these worksheets is not the number line and the many ways of using it, but when the problem to solve is set up-a hypothetical student has used the system incorrectly-now find the mistake. She says it is often confusing to students and actually works against their ability to learn several methods of solving problems. At that young age, they often begin to confuse a "mistake" hypothetically given with the correct way to do it. The workbooks they use for tutoring does not add these clever twists but are forthright. They have found an angle to make much more money with high schoolers because certain classes have been left out altogether-geometry is now integrated and so most high schoolers are now not really learning geometry like we used to until they get to college. They are making good money teaching geometry to HSers preparing them for AP tests for college. So there is always a private angle if parents can afford it.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    My kids aren't old enough for it yet, but it sounds like a minor annoyance. The major annoyance is you can't take your money elsewhere.

    My biggest complaint is I don't believe the outrage is real. There's a group of people who live ideological outrage. They'll shoehorn even the most mundane issue into something people are suppose to hate their neighbors over.
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Get them when they're young. Keep them confused... teach them don't notice, don't judge, and don't be certain. Rewrite history. Teach them gov will take care of you. Make them dependent. Remove guns for their own safety. Shall I continue?
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    He doesn't say anything but wise cracks. As if the people truly against cc are over reacting. He doesn't say the federal gov has no place dictating curriculum. He doesn't mention the other countries that have done this and what it produced and how things ended up for them. It is beyond bad but I know you don't understand that...so to you it's a joke.
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  • Posted by $ 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    At what point does Colbert ever say Common Core is a good thing? He doesn't. In fact, he voices pretty much the exact same complaints people here have voiced. I don't understand why you're upset about that.
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I corrected auto correct 4 times and it still changed b o o b 's to boon's. Wtf is a boon????
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    But maph... making fun of something very serious is a slap in the face. Children's minds are at stake. Our freedom is hanging by a cheap thread and common core will snap it. And they laugh. It's down right scary.
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    As much as anyone here? Have you read all the comments? Apparently not. Our concerns are much broader and much more serious than this boon's presentation.
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes. Colbert works for the public sphere and should poke fun exactly equally. Someone more fair should have to write his stupid jokes for him. Maybe a gov employee.
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    He made fun of the idea that it is indoctrination. Right at the beginning. And the sheep laughed and laughed.
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  • Posted by $ 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The truth? What do you mean? Colbert acknowledged that the CC curriculum was nonsense. Did you actually watch the whole thing?
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  • Posted by $ 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    What are you talking about? He criticized Common Core just as much as anyone here has. Did you watch the whole video, or just the first half?
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 11 years, 3 months ago
    Colbert just dumbed down the problem with cc through humor. Too bad his audience is already to dumb to realize the point. Ya can't fix stupid.... but you can make them laugh collectively and make bank in the process. I think he knows the truth...but his audience is a pile of tools...
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  • Posted by khalling 11 years, 3 months ago
    I cannot wait for Colbert to offend proud new owners of fresh genetic vag's-oh no-wait-he doesn't ridicule that group - only SOME groups. maph, I am going to sue Colbert to make jokes to my specification. that's fair and equal. and just....
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