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That said, the "tolerance" crowd is only tolerant of those who believe as they do. Some seem to believe that it is their "right" to force others to believe as they do, or at least to do as they would wish them to do. This is the worst sort of hypocrisy. At least for those who purport to believe in liberty.
First of all, I've been damned by lots of people in my life, usually by people that have trouble dealing with the truth. I usually consider it a compliment.
I looked at your limerick and frankly the word gestapo is a historical black mark on Germans for the terrible things that the gestapo did to people all over the world. Germany deserves to be remembered for these terrible actions that they allowed their government to commit. I say this as a German born U.S. Citizen. Death and extermination was their mission and it is offensive to use it in a limerick or for that matter to use the term to demonize anyone of different political persuasion.
Furthermore, when I wrote my response to Maphesdus, I used the words, “with respect.” apparently some on this have trouble with criticism or disagreement. Frankly that is a surprise to me. Of course considering the subject that was being discussed, I shouldn't have been surprised.
I'm a believer in live and let live, but a respect for privacy should also be a part of the equation. That privacy for Mr. Eich was violated by the threats made against him by the pro gay marriage people and by the the company of which he was president. A private contribution to a cause no matter what should remain private. This doesn't even take into consideration that many liberal politicians starting with President Obama and working it's way down the liberal food chain were in agreement with Mr. Eich in those days. The hypocrisy is astounding.
Fred Speckmann
commonsenseforamericans@yahoo.com
Death from sodomy is rare. Death by guns is unfortunately perceived to be way too common (not as bad as folks are led to believe with about half being suicides).
Whereas with abortion many from the extreme right call it "murder" too.
Real born people dead vs. what the religion (generally) of some calls "babies."
For the record I'm pro-choice on both guns and abortion. Responsible adults in America should be able to make those kinds of decisions for themselves.
Why did you have to make me come to Maph's defense?
I started the "gestapo" thing with the limerick I posted to Mozilla's feedback page.
Follow this post's main link to read it.
The limerick, after all. is what this thread *was* supposed to be about... right, Maph?
Damn you, Fred, damn you!
I ask this with all respect and sincerity, what "equal rights are being denied specifically.?
By using the word "real gestapo," you are also implying that there are gestapo tactics used by someone. Who is using them and how exactly? Our society has gotten so used to throwing incendiary words around and that does not further the debate. If you have an opinion, it is your responsibility to be clear on your points so that they can be debated honestly.
Fred Speckmann
commonsenseforamericans@yahoo.com
If you add up (integrate for us geeks) the oppressive actions over a historical period (e.g. last 50, 100, 500, 1,000 yrs), these actions have been by the other side (e.g. against LGBT), largely religious and most often supported by government institutions.
Unfortunately, we are dealing with the backlash/pendulum swing in the opposite direction. Hopefully the oscillating system is well-damped, and we'll reach a simple free steady-state... but I doubt it, because public arguments are made to appeal to freedom for everyone. They more often support: "my freedoms are important, and yours are evil". Guns vs sodomy for example.
<Inigo Montoya>You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.</Inigo Montoya>
He had a job. A group applied pressure on Eich to leave.
Thus, a sanction was placed on Eich for exercising the right of free speech. The action relied on publicity and group pressure for effect and so also is a warning and threat to others who want to speak against the 'moral minority'.
So, the word 'gestapo' can be used to describe the actions of the group. The minority of Eich was not denied his equal rights, he spoke before the sanction, but unless this threat is withdrawn, all others and now Eich himself cannot speak freely.
Thought police, here, there, and everywhere
Ruin a good man and business, without a care.