Republicans Shift to Last-Ditch Plan to Stop Trump at Convention
Reading this, it is no wonder that our country is a disaster. Special interests, "my way or no way" politics, a 2 party state where both parties are identical and wrapped up in their own greatness. All this is what Trump bashes. Is he right? I don't know, he seems to be a goofball, with a childish emotional state. However, he is NOT what is currently in power, which is what has them running scared. But how can anyone expect anyone to listen to the last 2 losers they fielded just because they were the party anointed ones, and who had nothing to offer against the Obamanation? It speaks to the arrogance of power that Romney, who failed, now thinks he is blessed enough to "save the Party". Nope, if Trump doesn't beat the HillaryBeast, assuming she is not indicted, it will be their "let me cut my nose off to spite my face" attitude, and take us all down with them into a Democrap hell that will cement Obamacare and add a huge tax gouge to pay for all the giveaways she will do, as well as whatever she skims of the top for her and Billy boy. What morons....
Divide and Conquer. Stir up enough about the GOP frontrunner, keep them at each others throats (and get the public and the media to join in the dogfight) and you split the party so NONE of them get elected. Kill the opposition to Hillary and she wins.
I knew it was suspicious when the GOP had, what, 17 candidates... and none would step back, make a rational business decision, and back out - or not get in. Who's EVER heard of "one party" putting up that many people?? It was beyond ludicrous - it showed the world that the GOP --CAN'T-- win because they're too busy doing the work for the dems...
The Right wing media (if there really is such a thing, and 'm beginning to doubt there is) - EVERY ONE OF THEM are complicit as well. EVERY TIME they stir the pot about so and so or that candidate - and it's not the Dem candidates - they're working for the Dems. Sorry, Glen, Sorry, Rush, Sorry, Sean..., sorry about ALL you people that are working from the Liberal's playbook. She appreciates your helping to keep the opposition divided.
You don't like Trump? Unless you really like Hillary a LOT more, then you hopefully will swallow the bitter pill and try to bring the GOP back together, even if it IS Trump, and stop helping HER campaign by slinging mud, stirring up their nonsense, and breaking their opposition for them...
I would say Mitt is throwing gasoline on an already raging fire.
I would also assume Judge Jeanine is a frustrated Republican.
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I could not believe that no one had countered Romney.
The more the internal fighting the bigger the ocean gets - the smaller the boat becomes.
i was censured by the Tea Party for my criticism of their lack of philosophy...
i will have to wait and see who emerges...and what path they take if they can get by Hillary...
eminent domain? And why has he bragged about
his lack of principle, and chummied up to Putin,
and said he can change to satisfy anyone?
When it comes to the Civil War, I am solidly
on the side of the Union, as, had it gone the oth-
er way, the continuation of slavery would have
been the end result.
As to Jefferson, it is shameful that he never
carried his own rhetoric into action so far as to
free his own slaves (as Washington did his--up-
on his death, but at least he did that much).But
the country they were fighting at the time also
had slavery in those days.
It is certainly true that "establishment politici-
ans have made a huge mess." I just don't think
that Trump is really anti-establishment. I intend
to vote for Cruz. He is not ideal, but I consider
him the best option available.
Slavery wasnt the issue that caused the civil war. It was the excuse. The North was jealous of the success of the south.
Jefferson kept his slaves so he could manage his huge plantation cheaply, just like the rest of the slave owners. My point was that the constitution was a big series of compromises at the time. But in the end, it was a decent document reached by compromise (but of course Trump cant compromise ...)
Well, we will c. I doubt Cruz will get nominated, let alone beat Hillary or Sanders. So we will never know.
eminent domain," not 'affirmative action'.
I did not know that the property was eventually
sold to that casino. I am sorry. But, of course, I
despise Trump. Either you have principles, or you don't.
As to the Civil War, if there had been no
slavery, there would have been no Civil War.
Clinton or Bernie Sanders. I just think that it would
be horrendous to be faced with such a choice. I
voted for Cruz in the primary, and I am still hoping
for him.
"...must strike back!"
Gotta love it.
I wonder if anyone unscripted can win a national election. I wonder if anyone states what he thinks, whether it's me, Trump, you, or anyone, if it's going to make him un-electable. Maybe when anyone states all of his ideas on policy, it comes off as absurd to 70% of the people.
I keep thinking about the Rand essay posted here a week ago: https://www.galtsgulchonline.com/post...
If the gov't has broad powers, Rand says, we're tempted to find a centrist who will consider everyone's interests. I say it's actually prudent to elect centrists, until gov't powers are limited. (No-kidding-Sherlock to those who respond this isn't ideal every time I say it.)
I see no way someone like Trump will be elected, for the reasons I said. I think people who work every day with people who find him reasonable are kidding themselves about how much the rest of the country is like them. I estimate maybe 80% of the people I interact with are Bernie Sanders supporters (we avoid talking about politics), but I can step back and see that what seems like "everyone" to me is actually a narrow segment of society.
My dream scenario is Trump, who I say is un-electable, gets the nomination and implodes, making way for the Libertarians to become a mainstream party. In this dream, Gary Johnson could say what he thinks but also say, "we don't have to agree on everything because all of this is outside the purview of government. You work with vendors, customers, employers that don't share your opinions, and it doesn't matter b/c they're not a part of what you're working on." That's probably a pipe dream. It will probably be a centrist politician who considers everyonne's interest, like the Rand essay talks about, and I think Clinton is far-and-away the best choice for that.
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Without a more fully developed political philosophy, an Objectivist political party would be premature.
Objectivism, in contrast, the moral principles of politics are an extension of the ethical code of rational self-interest. Because there are no conflicts of rational interests among individuals, the proper society is one in which individuals cooperate for mutual advantage, exchanging value for value.
If a party valued the individual, and the legal code defended the legal rights of the individual, instead of the current "rights of the state above all men", I could do that very nicely.
(or that she thought) his goal was simply "to be
President", rather than to carry out any particular
policies. Now I do not know what she would have said about Trump, nor can I speak for her, but for myself, I strongly suspect the same
thing about him.
If conservatives want individual liberty and free markets restored the only objective choice is to abandon the GOP's lies and vote for a principled, ethical candidate like Gary Johnson.
Perhaps a total collapse is the best thing that can happen and is overdue. For the Phoenix to rise, you have to start with the ashes...
Not only is collapse unlikely in times of such prosperity and personal liberty, it's undesirable. At least as human history goes, if you tear up what we have, our liberty can only decrease.
I am of the opposite opinion. The average person can publish his ideas nearly for free. We haven't completely realized MLK's dream, but everyone agrees it's a good goal. LGBT rights are respected. We don't hear serious debate about whether women have the same rights as men. Marginal tax rates >60% are long gone, and probably won't come back. Violent crime is falling steadily for decades. Most of the middle class and poor have an affluent life compared to most time and places.
We may be on the cusp of a world where the cost of making things is trivial and all the value and human effort is in arranging them cleverly. The geographic barriers on earth don't matter anymore, and we may be witnessing the decline of the nation state. We may see people travel to space, and that earth's gavity well will replace geographic boundaries, allowing peolple to try new ways of doing things.
It don't get how people can look and how rapidly the world is changing and see anything like the Dark Ages.
“The average person can publish his ideas nearly for free.” – Yes, and to paraphrase Putin – Internet is like a big crown in the Red Square – scream all you want, no one will hear you.
As to realizing MLK’s dream, that’s actually Thomas More’s dream (not the first and only plagiarism by MLK), with the same result…
“LGBT rights are respected. We don't hear serious debate about whether women have the same rights as men.” The issue that we now have is that LGBT “rights” trump everyone else’s rights – when someone’s rights are more important than others’, they become privileges. When you have privileges, you lose rights. Same with women’s privileges, that come at the expense of others’ rights.
The current middle class tax rate is well above 60% when you add up all the taxes – local, state, sales, fees, federal and, most important, roll up the taxes that businesses pay and have to transfer to the consumer. Much over 60%! We are so intertwined with the government handouts and taxes that to separate the two is essentially impossible, which is exactly the way it was in the Soviet Union – and we all know how well that ended.
Violent crime is falling – true, though I do not think that it is because we are doing so well, but more to do with the fact that more and more people carry weapons and are willing to protect themselves. But let the Progressives have their way…
As to the middle class, its disappearance, or at least significant reduction, should be obvious. The poor, however, do live better than ever, but at a price – for two hundred years, America has provided an opportunity for unprecedented social mobility; today’s government-enslaved poor have no chance of ever getting out of the ghetto.
Lastly, regarding geographic boundaries, which you claim do not matter anymore – with the spread of Islam throughout yet unconquered territories, we will either see a very nationalistic shutting of the borders or Sharia takeover within a generation or two. Then you can unequivocally say goodbye to women’s and LGBT rights…
Wow. We see technologies and media going viral, without any traditional gatekeepers. When I was a kid people used to say the press is only free to those who own one. That's just gone. People share niche ideas so far down the long tail that a 'zine would have struggled to have enough following to justify distribution and printing. Is there any pace of progress in ability to share ideas without gatekeepers that you would not see as a problem?
"As to realizing MLK’s dream, that’s actually Thomas More’s dream (not the first and only plagiarism by MLK), with the same result…"
Fifty years ago people wondered if the dream was too radical. Now we talk about whom to attribute it to. I'll take that as an amazing success.
"The issue that we now have is that LGBT “rights” trump everyone else’s rights – when someone’s rights are more important than others’, they become privileges."
LGBT people always had rights. We just now have a gov't that respects them. People considering them "special rights" or "privileges" that must come at the expense of someone else's rights/privileges is going away. That was something bigots said in the 90s. It sounds retro today.
"Much over 60%!"
Marginal federal rates were in the 70% range for decades before I was born. I don't consider this rapid progress. I think there are things happening now that could break either way, either for cutting or expanding gov't. So this is a huge concern.
"but more to do with the fact that more and more people carry weapons and are willing to protect themselves. But let the Progressives have their way…"
But they haven't. What we're doing is working. You can take anything that's working and say, "but soon enough someone will screw it up."
"America has provided an opportunity for unprecedented social mobility; today’s government-enslaved poor have no chance of ever getting out of the ghetto."
Unprecedented social mobility is what we have now. Gov't-enslaved poor living in a ghetto is what we had more of in the past than today. We can admit that without condoning the massive gov't taxation, borrowing, and intrusiveness that we have to day.
"Lastly, regarding geographic boundaries, which you claim do not matter anymore – with the spread of Islam throughout yet unconquered territories, we will either see a very nationalistic shutting of the borders or Sharia takeover within a generation or two. Then you can unequivocally say goodbye to women’s and LGBT rights…"
I say it simply won't happen. If you show that comment to someone 20 years from now, it will be easily identifiable as being from the 2010s, at least by people who remember what got people fired up two years ago. Islamists want to have a state, but they're actually criminals. No one wants criminals around. The nationalistic protectionism won't happen because the golden straitjacket of trading with one another is so enticing.
Now to the substance. It is not the amount of electrons that one can send around the world that matters, it is what other people hear and how they react to it that matters. Jesus didn't have a printing press; in fact, nothing that he said was even written down, but it was heard and it changed the world. My father spend all his money writing and publishing his research - and he was the only one that read it.
As to MLK making black's lives better - the percentage and the amount of broken families is unprecedented, the level of government dependence (slavery) is unprecedented (since the Civil War), the level of uneducation and stupidity, along with generational unemployment is unprecedented. And you call it Progress? I'm not religious, but I still have to say: God, save me from this kind of progress!
And for the rest of your assessment, I'll get a rosy telescope and then maybe I'll see what you're seeing...
I will vote for Johnson if I feel confident it won't help the Republican, unless Rand Paul somehow got back in. In this election, it seems like anything is possible. I think of dream scenarios in which they nominate Trump and he implodes, paving the way for a libertarian. I really hope Gary Johnson doesn't have any skeletons in the closet b/c in that remote case where Republicans implode, Libertarians must be ready to jump in. I know that's probably a pipe dream.
a. They have had a lock on media since who knows when (I would say before the civil war).
b. That lock has framed every discussion and effectively "cuts out" the principled person, in favor of the party candidate.
c. Big business has been manipulating things for a while between money, messages and possibly covert actions.
d. The money used to "support candidates" and the rise of unregulated money, means the "principled" candidate is left high and dry. Business and people do not contribute to a "principled" campaign (unless Bernie the Commie counts).
Your position is correct, I agree with it wholeheartedly, but I just do not think that our society has been in a position to allow it for a long time, something I think AR was trying to show the sheeple. She did not have much success.
Before their thunder roars, there is a period of anticipation, in which more occurs than the literal-minded tyrant can ever understand. A few overt acts of sedition shatter the heavy peace. But the greater force, unrecognized, rolls forward in near silence, as millions of individuals quietly withdraw their consent from the state. The pundits call it apathy.They could not be more wrong.
That time is now. And we are those people."
101 Things To Do 'Til The Revolution by Claire Wolfe
mentioned before, due to technical problems, I
usually don't watch videos on the computer. But I
have heard some stuff like this on the radio. I think that Trump is a disaster. I think I would
vote for him over Clinton or Sanders, but I real-
ly hope we won't be reduced to that. I want Cruz. He is not ideal, but I think he is the best
of the options available. And I just wish Rubbio
would drop out, and maybe team up with Cruz,
and that the two of them would run as running
mates. Then we could defeat Trump and have a
really good chance of defeating the Democrats,
and getting rid of Obamacare,& get something
resembling a free-enterprise country again.
at every turn, and it's like suicide, because the pair
could take a hard turn, go independent as president
and vp candidates of the "new party" and win. . who
died and made the RNC all-powerful? -- j
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their power and control. . it's fun watching them squirm,
but this is not a game, and our nation stands in the balance. -- j
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the convention rules at the last minute, to try to get
someone besides DT or Cruz. -- j
p.s. convention dates 18-21july16.
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can they spell s t u p i d ? -- j
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Progressives...both sides,
Intrenched establishment...both sides.
A few, really wacko's...mostly on the left.
And, way to few, conscious human beings, beings that know and understand the constitution and know what the problems are.
For someone, going along, with no education of what America stands for, are allergic to politics, hasn't paid attention and can not seem to believe that these creatures pervade our government and they do not care about them.
They just want to rule...cause they can't do anything else. They have no clue whom to support, who is the real thing and will likely fall prey to the lamestream rhetoric.
Trumpet...has no mind outside business ideas, sometimes gets lucky cause he doesn't care how he does business so long as he wins.
Having no mind, he needs that gigantic ego...which presents the problem...it's his way or the high way cause he's better than you and he doesn't care how he does it.
He really reminds me of Hitler...hiltery too...same brain set.
I've said it before: Marx predicted that if enough nonsense and chaos was injected into a capitalistic society...the people would cry out for a strong man.
donald is their strong man...their hitler, thier stalin, their savior.
Now I have to put my finger down my throat and evacuate the thought of it.
Not trying to be contrary, but a workable method of change is whats is needed (and the Obamanation chant is not counted as workable).