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And the Survey SAYS...

Posted by sdesapio 11 years, 10 months ago to Entertainment
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A few weeks ago we asked you, the Atlas Shrugged community, to fill out an anonymous online survey. Thousands of you responded and, while we will NEVER divulge any personally identifiable information about any of our members, following are some very interesting meta results.

Gulch, here's who we are...

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Sex
29% Female
71% Male

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Age
6% Under 30
26% 30-49
43% 50-65
23% Over 65

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Marital Status
15% Single
4% Cohabitating
66% Married
10% Divorced
2% Widowed

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Political Affiliation
2% Democrat
18% Independent
23% Libertarian
35% Republican
16% Tea Party

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Voted in the 2012 Presidential Election
93% Voted
3% Did not vote
3% Not registered to Vote

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  • Posted by BambiB 11 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    One item in the book "Men on Strike" is a case where a 34-year-old woman had sex with a 15-year-old boy and got pregnant. She filed for child support - and got it!!

    Now, as a test of your true gender-neutrality, what do you think the response would be if a 34-year-old man had sex with a 15-year-old girl...
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  • Posted by BambiB 11 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    When I look at a study with 49 cases, and one case says, "Look - here's one place where women haven't succeeded in destroying everything", I don't conclude that it is the rule. Now if you could show that more than half of the states with female majorities had lower than median debt levels, you might be on to something.

    Can you show that?

    The study, if you'll recall, measured the CHANGE in debt after women got the vote. Uniformly, without exception, the debt began to soar. Have you even read the study? (If not, you're arguing from ignorance. No offense.)
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  • Posted by BambiB 11 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Our "free" press is about 95% controlled by just 6 corporations which filter what people see, read, hear and (in most cases) ultimately believe.

    The internet is somewhat of an antidote.
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  • Posted by BambiB 11 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I think that's a valid point. Certainly men made society safe enough for women to speak out. When women began to speak, what they mostly said was, "Gimme!" There's a long history of men deferring to women - sometimes referred to as "White Knight" syndrome. "You never hit a woman!" (What if she hits you first?)

    So yes, men have deferred - and all it's gotten them is more abuse.

    According to the book I just finished reading ("Men on Strike") the younger generation of men sees the abuse suffered by the older generations - both personal and legal - and is opting out of relationships (specifically marriage) with women, preferring instead to "hook up" without commitment.

    And yes, there are men who surrender their masculinity to get laid. The author refers to them as "Uncle Tims".
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  • Posted by BambiB 11 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Pensions? Can you be more specific?

    In the study to which I refer (Lott), the governmental debt trended sharply upwards within just a few years of women getting the vote. Unless you have some evidence that the 48 states covered, and the Feral Government, all enacted similarly deleterious pension plans within 5 years of women getting the vote (something that happened over a period of 50 years), the argument that pensions are the proximate cause of budgetary imbalance isn't credible.
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  • Posted by LeeCrites 11 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    If you're talking BYU, I'm not sure either one. If Truman Madsen was still around, HE might have been able to tell you. Not so much because of his position there, but because he was that good of a researcher and historian.

    The folks from FAIR probably won't help, unless you are a converted Nibleyite and just know who to ask.
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  • Posted by khalling 11 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I tend to see alot of that due to pensions as opposed to women voting. pensions pushed by unions, with the endorsement of the federal government. I will allow women have to take the blame for voting Obama in, however
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  • Posted by khalling 11 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    well, I married after the "lib" thing, and it didn't affect me, but I do have friends who purposely chose soft spoken, easily maneuvered men for husbands. they're decent people but I was looking for strength. I think my husband was too
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  • Posted by khalling 11 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    ok sorry, thought you were goading me. voter rolls. lots of dead people voted in Chicago. probably still do
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  • Posted by BambiB 11 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I think that's the one note that the six companies that control 95% of all media WANT you to hear. It's to their advantage to have political parties in power they can control. How would they survive if you got a clue and realized that the Libertarians ARE your party - not just some Johnny Marijuana-seed caricature you've been fooled into believing?
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  • Posted by BambiB 11 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    And what gender would you associated with emotion? Yes, the "pussification" of America is definitely playing a part.
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  • Posted by BambiB 11 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes, men were voting stupid. But they weren't voting colossally moronic! In general, all the states and the federal government ran small deficits that were essentially yearly round-off error. The budgets could easily have been balanced at any time.

    Once women got the vote, EVERY STATE AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT began to have soaring debt. This didn't happen all at the same time, mind you. Women got the vote over a period of 50 years. But following their voting, in any of the states (first 48 covered by the study) and the Feral Government, the governments plunged into debt and have never recovered.
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  • Posted by BambiB 11 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Not to put too fine a point on it, but are you familiar with Mormon religion/culture? While women play a larger role today, back then the head of the household would have told the women how to vote... and that's how they would have voted.

    Also, say what you will of Mormons, they're a lot closer to Gulchers than any other religion I can think of off hand. Name another religion that extolls the virtues of having a TWO YEAR supply of food on hand... and firearms.

    In many regards, due to religious persecution, the Mormon's have formed their own "gulches". I believe there's still one near the California-Nevada border that has plural marriage.

    Or, as another example, take the FLDS compound in Texas that was raided a few years back. They were almost entirely self-sufficient and independent - yet Leviathan saw fit to intrude. Still, I don't envision many of those women voting against the wishes of their husbands.
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  • Posted by Rocky_Road 11 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That would be appreciated.

    Most political prisoners want to tell their side of the story...that can be their only victory.
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  • Posted by Rocky_Road 11 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Uncalled for...that was a serious request.

    I never questioned your spelling (don't know if you got it right, or wrong), but asked for the details.

    Again: 'what did mayor dailey the 1st do?'
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  • Posted by Rocky_Road 11 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Some of us were already deeply married when the Lib thingy hit the fan.

    It didn't alter my scenario, but it did redefine relationships for following generations. That can not be argued against.
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  • Posted by Rocky_Road 11 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Somebody has to had put this down on paper.

    I'll talk to one of my friends in the History department and see if he has any suggestions.

    Or would that be the Religion Dept?
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  • Posted by LeeCrites 11 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I will make a few calls -- but when we lived in Utah (1985 - 1995), none existed I could find. The topic is (or at least was) anathema.

    Most historians are so focused on religious topics that this political stuff is of little interest. And if they WERE interested, the political ramifications could be devastating.

    The LDS Church has "moved on," and closed those chapters in history. Even the last President (Gordon B. Hinckley), who did a lot of interesting stuff with Church History, did not like to open some of the "old wounds."

    Keep in mind that many of the families with the information we are talking about were the polygamous wives and children of men who were put in prison for having the "sin" of having more than one wife -- long before the SCOTUS declared it illegal. They felt in a very real way the privations of what the US government is fully willing and capable of doing.

    They do not like to talk about this -- and I do not blame them.

    But I'll make a few calls to see what I can find.
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