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  • Posted by iroseland 11 years, 11 months ago
    watching China come apart at the seams is like watching a heavy cargo train wreck happen in slow motion. I hate to say it but right now China needs a little destructive creativity The Chinese government has spent a lot of the last 20 years trying to get away with avoiding economic reality. A collapse there *could* be turned into a good thing. Among other things hopefully they will learn a lesson. In the meantime manufacturing will be in pretty bad shape there. Also, folks will start finding reasons to avoid doing business there. The work however will still need to be done. So, it will have to go someplace. That will create a load of opportunity all over the place. Then there are the final prices to be paid in China. Their one child policy has resulted in a very lopsided population. There are a very large number of young men over there who have no hope of getting married and having kids. This is a sort of problem that is generally really bad for a society. Eventually a bunch of frustrated 20 something guy will come to the conclusion that they have nothing to lose if they started to make a revolutionary mess. Of course it takes a final push for something like this to happen. Like unemployment and high food prices. Right now the rails are splitting, soon the cars will start jumping off the track.
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    • Posted by Robbie53024 11 years, 11 months ago
      The flaw is that China can slam the door at any time, default on all outstanding debts, and reduce the imbalance of male population. What that will do to their populace is of little concern to the leaders.
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      • Posted by Danno 11 years, 11 months ago
        The Great Depression was caused by US Central Bank Vendor Finance (i.e. loan Europe money to buy American products to rebuild after WWI). China now has its own Vendor Finance problem. What will happen? Surely a large crash in China. Then America loses it outsourced factory???
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        • Posted by Robbie53024 11 years, 11 months ago
          Probably. I'm torn on it, as that could actually be good for the US. Bringing more manuf back here would be a good thing. It would require shutting off the borrowing and wealth transfer to China, which might be problematic.
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          • Posted by 11 years, 11 months ago
            Don't forget, however, that China is one of our largest creditors. If they were a forced seller of Treasury debt, it would cause massive indigestion in our financial markets.
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            • Posted by Robbie53024 11 years, 11 months ago
              Correct, that's why I said that we'd have to shut that down. China slams it's doors shut on production, we slam our shut on their bonds. I think that China could more easily deal with the situation, but I think that we could as well, even if it would be more painful in the short term. It would also be the best thing that could happen to us - no more easy money would force DC to trim.
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