Should I Even Speak to Our School Board?
I've had enough of Common Core. It's the catalyst to finally push me to look into homeschool groups for my family. (We are in a great charter, but charters must comply.) I use math all the time in my work, and so I think my views are backed by something, are relevant. I am contemplating speaking to our Board of Education for our district at one of the upcoming public meetings. I know I can frame this discussion and put forth my position in a way that will have impact. But, you know what?...I'm to the point that I don't think it will matter. Albert Einstein could dig himself up from the grave and stagger into the meeting specifically to address this with our Board members and I think they'd ignore him.
What do my fellow Gulchers think? Thanks...
What do my fellow Gulchers think? Thanks...
Just my $0.02...
I do not remember what that something was but that saying has stuck with me ever since,
Good Luck. YMMV...
Alas, come to think of it, I've seen some squeaky wheels lose their jobs over the years..
I survived a cutthroat career with so many says to screw up to now enjoy my full retirement.
It appears I chose my times to squeak wisely.
So I've already have had my good luck.
after many decades of observation...
Squeak carefully and carry a big... [i don't know what... :) ]
I'd like to know more about just who the falk your Falk is.
It sure can't be the dude I found~
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falk_Laws
search "plusaf" silly, or go to www.plusaf.com or go to the Falk's Laws link, above and click the upper right on that page to go to my site's Home Page.
It's been there for, oh, only 19 years or so...
:)
I made no difference at all, but still I am DAMN glad I said it. Would I do it again? Probably not.
...to shrug from.
They gave you an excellent out - "I'm sorry, but if this assembly chooses to not just disregard, but break, the law, I not only will be forced to resign but to turn over this information to the Attorney General's office, as I will have no part in your illegal actions."
Would I do that? Damned right I would. I am not going to jail for a bunch of idiot moochers...
Jan
And here's the kicker. Every one of those 3 dentists on the subcommittee were barely functioning alcoholics. And they presume to pass judgment on others. Oh, well. No wonder I love the Gulchers!
I refused to sign the waiver. I took the prescription out of the receptionists other hand and walked out - drove to Walmart and got it filled. I had words with the vet personnel the next time I went in. (NB The best veterinarian I have had in recent years works there. None of this took place in her presence.)
I still want to set up an appointment to go back in and talk to that (good) vet in person. I believe that she is the chief honcho there and I may be able to convince her that the waiver is borderline in legality (and marginal in ethics). (Normally if I have a problem like this, I just change vets...but this vet has Common Sense and I would like to keep her.)
Do you have any advice for me on this issue?
Jan
God...we're really in trouble...
So I do not think that it was a futile gesture. It might have worked.
Jan
I guess that this is what the internet is for. If it had just happened, one could Out Them.
Jan
As I said, I learned so very much from the whole experience. I actually was able to do some good in the beginning, then this little petty tyrant figured out to contact the other members before the meeting in order to insure the vote and block my efforts. I am SO glad to be off that board. I am 100% cynical about government at this point.
So, I got some thumbs down over this? How do I see who that would be?
At this point are you Rearden or Galt?
If your answer is Galt, do you have a plan to stop the motor of the world?
Which will be more likely to have the effect you want, (a) presenting your rational argument to the school board, or (b) doing nothing?
Do you understand if the local school board can act as you argue even if they agree?
Your 'solution' must be lower risk, greater reward for the school board members than the status quo.
Personally, I choose to think that we must do something or the statists will win. But, know your enemy, and have a rational strategy and specific tactics to practice.
(Apologies for stating what is obvious to you, Abaco.)
Your comment reminds me of something I told the Superintendent of our last district (where we actually live). They got caught (we found out later) actually beating up kids with autism. They, through their special ed admin, systematically screwed over families of kids with special needs. In front of a large group of parents with kids with special needs (the ONLY time the district ever organized such a group...) I made the statement, "You have such a great group of caring, involved parents here. You should see us as a resource, not as adversaries." The crowd exploded. But...it didn't matter. My son was already in a private school at that time.
In my gut, I feel that trying to help is worse than pounding sand... I feel as though the machine is in automatic mode and it's going to simply gobble up kids and their families. Nothing can stop it. But...I appreciate the input from my fellow Gulchers, of course.
But the gasoline is dirt cheap...
What you bring up is a very valid issue. It likely would be a waste of productive time going to a school board meeting since most members would likely give you blank stares. The likely hood of getting positive results is slim to none. I don't envy the decisions you need to make.
Homeschool while its still possible. Let the kids learn what they want to learn as much as possible. History channel, YouTube, and things like that will teach more than most of the public school books anyway
Back when it was Outcome Based Education, Clintnton's baby), the forerunner of Common Core, I had one teacher tell me they did not have it in our school. I listed the elements one by one, and he admitted they had each. However, he said, "we don't call it that" - therefore, it did not exist there. To this day, they refuse to give what the kids were taught under that one at Colunbine any blame at all, even though a local TV station held a panel discussion on the dangers of what was being taught the year before.
Now, they just brainwash, and forget academics, it just gets in the way.
Also, I would approach the teacher directly. He/she may be able to implement your suggestions without making a big deal out of it.
I would say, "Address the matter. Do so bluntly and at a meeting that has good attendance by parents." (If you know ahead of time of other parents who agree with you, be sure they attend.)
Do you think that all of the parents agree with Common Core? Many of them probably do not, but lack a catalyst. The members of the Board will not care what you say, but if a large number of parents chime in, agreeing with you, the Board will care what 'they' say.
The most probably direct outcome is still homeschooling, but there is a chance that you could trigger a massive reaction from other parents and actually effect a change. And even if you do not, you have stood up for rationality and free choice.
Jan
I might do both, say something...see how they respond and at the same time...teach your kid the right way...that goes for history, science, morals and the values of hard work.
system? (It has been many years since I had to
go to either elementary or high school, and I have
no children). Kudos to you for looking into home-
schooling. But what groups? I thought home
schoolers were supposed to just teach their
children at home. Can't you and the children's
mother do that? (Though my homeschooling
friends do go to some kind of group meetings).
I have tried to get some kind of employment in
that way, by offering my services as a phonics
tutor, but I guess they don't need me, if they are
doing it themselves. But if you want to go that
route, don't take too long just "looking into" it,
while the kids suffer in that school system.
I think you should still go to the school board,
to prevent too much damage being done
to the community's children (and, eventually, the
citizens). After all, whether your children are in
that school system or not, you are still paying
for it, and you should not allow too much crap
to be done in your name.
It's like a deliberately spread infection.
You don't mention what state you live in. The reason I bring this up is b/c teacher's unions are all-powerful in some states ( like Maryland) so taking action as an individual in those areas is pointless. ( You might recall it was in Maryland last year where the father was removed from a Board of Ed meeting in handcuffs for challenging the status quo. It was all caught on video, so it wasnt a matter of the parent being threatening, other than threatening the powers that be. It was also in Md where an elem school kid was suspended for biting his Poptart into the shape of a gun. So Md is a lost cause.) So first you have to know your environment to assess it. Second, if you don't live in a state like Maryland, then see if any other parents feel like you do. If you can find even one or two people ( esp. if they have big community or neighborhood connections behind them - power in numbers !) then the next thing I'd do would be to get familiar with your Board of Ed members. If you can identify any alliances there, then schedule meetings with them individually to try to get their cooperation ( they're supposed to be representing YOU, not the other way around but they forget that.) and then if possible, organize all the supportive members into a power block that can withstand those on the board who will not want to change course. Will all this take a lot of time and effort? Yep. But so will home schooling. But if you're successful with changing the curriculum, you'll help change ( improve) your corner of the world.
I suggest that it is much better to quietly pull your child out of the school system and homeschool, either through a group or by yourself. There are a number of good programs on the computer, plus clubs and activities that the child can participate it. Unfortunately, the money that you're paying for the public un-education is gone. So be it. Think of it as another tax on life, but at least save the kid. If you make an issue, the school system will most likely take it as a challenge and they will challenge you back with social service parasites, courts, unfit parent accusations, etc. - is it worth it, especially knowing that you can't win?
1. You aren't likely to change their minds. They are looking at things from a funding perspective and until the rules change on a national level, that funding source is still the first thing on their minds.
2. It's not about education at all. The Common Core curriculum was developed to sell books - not to educate. No teachers I've talked to (especially mathematics teachers) like the materials, as they are incredibly counter-intuitive. What's worse is that many of the problems they give the students are either outrageous, or exactly the same, and they are very poorly vetted. I can't tell you how many I've come across with my kids with misspellings and even incorrect answers in their keys.
Good luck and let us know how it goes.