The Leonard Peikoff/David Kelley intellectual exchange
Get Past Dr. Peikoff's territorial defense of his leadership of Objectivism; discover David Kelley's superb exposition of Objectivism in our lives...
Many decades ago, now, when David Kelley published his brief essay, "A question of Sanction," he expressed ideas that went to the essence of Objectivism. And he expressed those ideas with remarkable logic, eloquence, historical context, and many examples. Then, more than a decade later, in 1990, he published the book-length "The Contested Legacy of Ayn Rand." That book is work of philosophy of the first rank, addressing fundamental Objectivist ideas, supplying their historical context, and, above all, examining ideas at work in the world in the lives of individuals, Objectivist and otherwise. In one sense, it is a shame that this book, necessarily, is identified with a specific dispute, because in itself it ranks as one of the foremost expositions of Objectivism. If you have all of Ayn Rand and all of Leonard Peikoff, you can find much in this book to arrest your attention and advance your grasp of Objectivism.
In view of the discussion, here, I went back and read Leonard Peikoff's "Fact and Value," which I first read the week it came out in "The Intellectual Activist." Any Objectivist, and certainly I, can agree with 90 percent of the essay as Peikoff rolls on and on rehearsing the Objectivist epistemology and meta-ethics. It is the 10 percent or less of the essay characterizing David Kelley's view, moral condemning him, excommunicating him from Objectivism, and dismissing him and his followers as evil—simply worthless to Objectivism—I do not exaggerate, here--that stops me cold. Very cold.
I could cite ideas, judgments, as the reason—and they are at the heart of the discussion, of course. But what made me feel as though there must be more than one reality is that I did not recognize the David Kelley, in any way, in Peikoff’s characterizing. I already had been studying Objectivism since 1962, when I read “Atlas Shrugged,” and had read every work of Ayn Rand, every issue of the “Objectivist Newsletter,” attended Ford Hall Forum… and I had known David Kelley for some years and had hundreds of hours of conversation with him.
Yes, Peikoff professed to identify underlying premises and to discover new fundamental errors—and claimed to be seeing them for the first time—but his statements about Kelley’s specific views had no application.
Does that mean that nothing really was in dispute here? No, that is not true. Amidst all the mischaracterizing and condemnation, Peikoff identified a basic, enduring difference between his views and those of David Kelley. When we hear an individual’s statement of his ideas can we usually rapidly and with confidence decide if he is mistaken or intellectually dishonest, given the nature of the ideas can we conclude without further investigation that he is an evader, anti-reason, anti-reality, and evil?
Or in most cases, as Kelley argues, should we engage in dialogue, even when the ideas espoused are repugnant to us, to see if the individual is mistaken, confused, but open to reason—or, and Kelley said over and over again—until we conclude the individual is evasive, anti-reason, willfully ignorant, and so evil?
That is a genuine difference of opinion. And one issue is how do we judge the workings, context, of another person’s mind to become certain that he is an evil evader? Or, as Dr. Peikoff suggests, in the case of most philosophical ideas it is obvious from the nature of the ideas themselves [intrinsically] that they are evil and anyone who espouses them is evil?
Because I had seen again and again David Kelly begin a calm discussion with an opponent, listening, summarizing his understanding of their views—and, in many cases, but not all, very rapidly moving to a tough, demanding criticism of his opponent’s evasions, repeated contradictions, and dubious motives. Indeed, in this regard, we viewed him, in those days, as a very scary interlocutor—courteous, willing to listen, but relentlessly focusing in on evasions. The little cartoon created by Leonard Peikoff had not application to this man.
I will not try to summarize an entire book, the brilliant “The Contested Legacy of Ayn Rand,” but here are a few suggestive paragraphs from the introduction: “In regard to the mental actions that produce ideas, I will show that a philosophical conclusion rests on an enormously complex process of thought in which honest errors are possible at many points. In holding that most positions at variance with Objectivism are inherently dishonest, Peikoff is, once again, giving voice to intrinsicism—a belief that the truth is revealed and that error reflects a willful refusal to see. In light of the objectivity of knowledge and the distinction between error and evil, I will show in Section IV that tolerance is the proper attitude toward people we disagree with, unless and until we have evidence of their irrationality.”
This, then, is the heart of the discussion, and you could do yourself no greater service, after reading Dr. Peikoff’s “Fact and Value,” than to pick up a copy of “Truth and Toleration.” The lingering tempest over Dr. Peikoff’s attempt to expel David Kelley from Objectivism—a power that Dr. Peikoff discovered he did not possess—rapidly fades into the background as you engage with this unique exposition of Objectivist ideas, how they play out in our lives, and how we live in world of non-Objectivists.
Many decades ago, now, when David Kelley published his brief essay, "A question of Sanction," he expressed ideas that went to the essence of Objectivism. And he expressed those ideas with remarkable logic, eloquence, historical context, and many examples. Then, more than a decade later, in 1990, he published the book-length "The Contested Legacy of Ayn Rand." That book is work of philosophy of the first rank, addressing fundamental Objectivist ideas, supplying their historical context, and, above all, examining ideas at work in the world in the lives of individuals, Objectivist and otherwise. In one sense, it is a shame that this book, necessarily, is identified with a specific dispute, because in itself it ranks as one of the foremost expositions of Objectivism. If you have all of Ayn Rand and all of Leonard Peikoff, you can find much in this book to arrest your attention and advance your grasp of Objectivism.
In view of the discussion, here, I went back and read Leonard Peikoff's "Fact and Value," which I first read the week it came out in "The Intellectual Activist." Any Objectivist, and certainly I, can agree with 90 percent of the essay as Peikoff rolls on and on rehearsing the Objectivist epistemology and meta-ethics. It is the 10 percent or less of the essay characterizing David Kelley's view, moral condemning him, excommunicating him from Objectivism, and dismissing him and his followers as evil—simply worthless to Objectivism—I do not exaggerate, here--that stops me cold. Very cold.
I could cite ideas, judgments, as the reason—and they are at the heart of the discussion, of course. But what made me feel as though there must be more than one reality is that I did not recognize the David Kelley, in any way, in Peikoff’s characterizing. I already had been studying Objectivism since 1962, when I read “Atlas Shrugged,” and had read every work of Ayn Rand, every issue of the “Objectivist Newsletter,” attended Ford Hall Forum… and I had known David Kelley for some years and had hundreds of hours of conversation with him.
Yes, Peikoff professed to identify underlying premises and to discover new fundamental errors—and claimed to be seeing them for the first time—but his statements about Kelley’s specific views had no application.
Does that mean that nothing really was in dispute here? No, that is not true. Amidst all the mischaracterizing and condemnation, Peikoff identified a basic, enduring difference between his views and those of David Kelley. When we hear an individual’s statement of his ideas can we usually rapidly and with confidence decide if he is mistaken or intellectually dishonest, given the nature of the ideas can we conclude without further investigation that he is an evader, anti-reason, anti-reality, and evil?
Or in most cases, as Kelley argues, should we engage in dialogue, even when the ideas espoused are repugnant to us, to see if the individual is mistaken, confused, but open to reason—or, and Kelley said over and over again—until we conclude the individual is evasive, anti-reason, willfully ignorant, and so evil?
That is a genuine difference of opinion. And one issue is how do we judge the workings, context, of another person’s mind to become certain that he is an evil evader? Or, as Dr. Peikoff suggests, in the case of most philosophical ideas it is obvious from the nature of the ideas themselves [intrinsically] that they are evil and anyone who espouses them is evil?
Because I had seen again and again David Kelly begin a calm discussion with an opponent, listening, summarizing his understanding of their views—and, in many cases, but not all, very rapidly moving to a tough, demanding criticism of his opponent’s evasions, repeated contradictions, and dubious motives. Indeed, in this regard, we viewed him, in those days, as a very scary interlocutor—courteous, willing to listen, but relentlessly focusing in on evasions. The little cartoon created by Leonard Peikoff had not application to this man.
I will not try to summarize an entire book, the brilliant “The Contested Legacy of Ayn Rand,” but here are a few suggestive paragraphs from the introduction: “In regard to the mental actions that produce ideas, I will show that a philosophical conclusion rests on an enormously complex process of thought in which honest errors are possible at many points. In holding that most positions at variance with Objectivism are inherently dishonest, Peikoff is, once again, giving voice to intrinsicism—a belief that the truth is revealed and that error reflects a willful refusal to see. In light of the objectivity of knowledge and the distinction between error and evil, I will show in Section IV that tolerance is the proper attitude toward people we disagree with, unless and until we have evidence of their irrationality.”
This, then, is the heart of the discussion, and you could do yourself no greater service, after reading Dr. Peikoff’s “Fact and Value,” than to pick up a copy of “Truth and Toleration.” The lingering tempest over Dr. Peikoff’s attempt to expel David Kelley from Objectivism—a power that Dr. Peikoff discovered he did not possess—rapidly fades into the background as you engage with this unique exposition of Objectivist ideas, how they play out in our lives, and how we live in world of non-Objectivists.
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Leonard Peikoff's "Fact and Value" wasn't strident or personal. He minimized references to personalities, concentrated on the principles, and has since moved forward with his work while a few others have tried to make it into a perpetual personal war with periodic revivals feeding resentment. That is where we see the constant personal denunciations, which have been one-sided for years.
If you understand what Leonard Peikoff wrote in "Fact and Value", which was written to be self contained, then it doesn't make much difference who said what else to what degree. I have yet to see a copy of the original paper David Kelley distributed which prompted the Peikoff essay.
The matter of contextual knowledge pertains to how it is applied, which is what I think you intended by "one can only act on what is [currently] available to him". Only in that sense is it complete, if you know all of it. But that is the case for any principles. It doesn't mean there are no new principles in depth or scope to discover with expanding knowledge and it doesn't mean that correct new knowledge contradicts it.
I hope that this is not "dirty pool," but I listen to many taped discussions by Dr. Peikoff. As someone...oh, yes, David Kelley...said: "Even if it is an opponent, you might learn something."
And this tape, in some ways the saddest I ever heard, and the most honest--friends, I never said that because Dr, Peikoff was mistaken, in my view, he was dishonest and evil--was his confession that he never had been happy. Not until, I think--check me on this--his official retirement at 82. He felt he MUST do philosophy as a career, had to spend his life fighting for Objectivism, but it gave him no pleasure. In effect, he longed for 5:00 a.m. and the end of the grind. I guess he never confided that to anyone for half a century.
Now how did that happen? Young Leonard Peikoff discovered Objectivism, as I understand it, at age 16. He learned it, practiced it, taught it, brilliantly and articulated expounded it all his life. How could his consistent adherence to Objectivist principles have failed to lead him to happiness--any happiness?
Well, I don't know, of course, but people adopt ideas and hold to them with ferocious tenacity, and, yet, when those ideas tell them "Seek your happiness, not your duty," there are men who cannot hear that. The reality of their own lives, hopes, and feelings is not relevant; ideas are the world. So many of us say, over and over, to others, that the meaning of life is happiness, joy, and find so little of it. Surely, that is not the true counsel of Objectivism?
I am pleased, in a way, to see the size and fervor of this debate, although many know that books could be filled with the internet firefights over this. I see much intelligent commentary and a certain sophistication about Objectivism.
It was Ed Snider who talked Ayn Rand into letting ARI be created and he who put up the money and was on the board. Not long afterward, he was driven from ARI by Dr. Peikoff for his views of certain issues--presumably self-evidently evil views that no truly rational person even could discuss with him--but this was after Ayn Rand had died. Ed Snider was a potential rival of Dr. Peikoff for leadership of ARI.
Mr. Snider, leaving ARI and its board, and like so many individuals ex-communicated from Objectivism by Dr. Peikoff, found refuge with David Kelley and became a long-term financial supporter of the Atlas Society.
I have never said that Dr. Peikoff intends to turn Objectivism into a religious cult. It is true that his leadership has imposed upon ARI some characteristics of a cult--many of those characteristics debated in these discussions--but it would be to take Dr. Peikoff's own position to conclude that he has chosen, or intends, or has hidden motives that would favor a cult. Of course he has no such motives; he is just mistaken on the vexed, complex issue of how to protect the integrity of the philosophy he loves, how to promulgate it, and how to know its true enemies.
I seldom attribute ideas to David Kelley, but he has said, explicitly, in these words, that Dr. Peikoff is a thoroughgoing Rationalist. His philosophical method is to begin with Objectivist philosophy and to deduce, derive, his position on any given event or issue in the world.
Rationalism, of course, is a pattern, a tendency, and we must be careful not to caricature it. But I learned the difference between a Rationalist and an Objectivist from Ayn Rand. Because I was steeped in Objectivist thought and reasoning during the years Ayn Rand was publishing her essays, but NO essay came out that did not surprise me at least in some small way.
Holy shit, she says it is all right for me to take a government scholarship? My "higher up" Objectivist friends, one later the president of ARI, had convinced me to give up my scholarship. The benevolent, kindly dean at Brown had said, "Oh, okay, I'll give you one of our private scholarships." Dear, tolerant people.
Holy shit, she says that no rational, strong woman could want to be President of the United States, except in the tragic emergency where no other good candidate was available. That little bomb blew the entire cadre of Rationalists out the door. Ayn Rand simply observed: There is an objective feminine personality and women who have developed that personality would much prefer not to be Commander in Chief of all men....
Holy Shit, her argument against competing governments came down to the simple observation--in reality, not less: What happens if two guys, part of two different governments, get into a hot dispute, and call on their cops? And the two sets of cops arrive with guns drawn to protect the rights of "their" citizen. What? You are deciding this profound, abstract, philosophical issue by reference to the EMPIRICAL observation that obviously it can't work, guys?
Friends, Leonard Peikoff has never, EVER surprised us by an application of Objectivism. If you know the principles and structure of Objectivism, you know in advance what Dr. Peikoff will say on any issue. It get boring, except perhaps for the pleasure of listening to him preach the word to the unconverted. When the Rationalist refers to reality he does so to clarify for others the right ideas apply.
Remember the heartfelt cry of sorrow upon the death of Marilyn Monroe? Come on, if we had not been told by Ayn Rand she was a shining example of generously shared joy in woman's sexuality NOT ONE of us would have conceived that column. Ever since, MM has been an Objectivist icon.
ARI has its own programs, some of which have been referred to here many times, but as an organization it does not involve itself in forums like this. Especially with the kind of open hostility from a few domineering malcontents of different kinds not conducive to the purpose of rational discussion to spread the ideas of Ayn Rand, who can blame them for not squandering resources. They have a lot to do and are doing it.
One can only act on what is available to him.
And if something new was discovered that was not fundamental, her philosophy remains intact.
That does not mean there is no more thinking to be done, but not in the name of someone else's philosophy. That has been addressed many times. Those who think they have something to offer should pursue it on their own let their own 'market' determine how it does, as many do. They don't need Leonard Peikoff or any organization and should stop the ongoing complaining that he or ARI doesn't support them. The fact is, much of which is written claiming to be or be compatible with Objectivism just isn't very good. Those who genuinely have something to offer will do it and prove it on their own.
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