I have been brainwashed? Let’s remind each other who posted an amateurish youtube vid. Cue the “scary music”
No. I was up late last night reading, none-bias articles and passages of the agreement, and other countries’s reports of how they are implementing changes in their own countries, I certainly wasn’t going to get any information about Agenda 21 in this thread.

I can see how over-zealous policy makers could upend their good intentions by not taking into an account that we don’t need plans that makes us feel like herded animals when the real goal is preservation of our resources and quality of life. We need more involvement with Agenda 21 oppose to less. We need more ideas from more sources. Instead, we have this cult of fear talking nonsense about FEMA death camps. Whatever. FEMA was heavily scrutinized for being dysfunctional after Katrina. Just because in the years since, FEMA in response has mapped the US in a way that they can respond to any crisis quickly doesn’t mean we jump to the conclusion of death camps! What the Hell? We demanded FEMA be more on top things.

Talk about being brainwashed.

I am reminded of the passage in the Bible that advises to "put on the whole armor of God" and then proceeds to list the parts. There is nothing to protect the back. We must always face the adversary to be protected. We can't turn and run away.

I meant 2012

One more thing, while I do not believe in religion I am a believer. Make sure all sets things right with God. Put on your armor, your whole armor and wait. It shall not be a long wait.

Fight is what will have to do. With space satellites there is not one place left that fit the bill. Everyone should be prepared now, if not get as many things in order that can be done. They are not going to take any of this easy. They are more afraid of us than we them. Our country has the largest private armed army in the world. It will not be so easy to bring us down. The issue will be getting as many in one place as possible. My friends call it the future commune order for those whom would rather go down fighting than except what they have to offer.

Well, I've spent most of my life on the Eastern Seaboad. Where the identity of the President (Head of State) and Members of Congress (The Legislature) is far more consequential.

Remember: our fellow travelers elected Mister Thompson. Now you're telling me that Mister Thompson is Head of State in name only? (And not even in name, because he's not a natural born citizen. But that's a bit off-scope here.)

Boots on the ground? Be careful what you hypothesize about. In fact, Miss Rand forecast another way to have the government "dreadfully present" in flyover country. Dunkertown, Iowa. Also known as Harmony City, otherwise known as Meigsville. The site of Project Xylophone, also known as the Thompson Harmonizer.

I get the idea of one world government. I can even see who the governing body will be. The part I don't see is how it will sustain itself. The Bilderburg guys are filthy rich. Settling for less from an unmotivated and uninterested working class probably has little interest for them. They can already "Lord" themselves above the masses, so there's no great gain in power.

Then there is this pesky concept. People of the World, have already had several opportunities to bow to 1 world government. They will not do it. Even on a smaller scale. Russia is only a shadow of it's former self. Eastern Europeans yearned to be free. China? Remember Tienanmen Square! They are still a communist country, but they use capitalism to grow wealth and give the people something to do. Imagine what the next protest would be like if 200-300M people lost their job because of government interevention.

Here in fly over country the federal gov't doesn't mean that much to me. I settle up on tax day and unless there is a Presidential election they leave me alone other other 364 days of the year. Even if there is an election they are more interested in stealing the votes than earning them, so I guess they leave me alone then too.

If the big 0 is one the TV, I can leave the room or turn it off. He's as easy to get rid of as Zombies, just change the channel.

In order to effect me directly, they will have to put boots on the ground on my street. I've lived under Marshall law before after a hurricane. When they move to the next street over, people just go back to what they were doing.

It seems to me, the people that work up the conspiracy theories and keep them going on radio and TV, generally have something to sell, and us being afraid makes it easier to sell those books. Ask yourself when was the last time George Noorey had a guest on C2C without a book to sell?

So, I'll just go to the range this afternoon, clean my gun when I get home, and enjoy another day here at my personal gulch.

I hear you and understand. For what I outlined to work, the "producers" in the economy would have to act together, and the location to which they withdrew would have to remain secret and undiscovered by others, as was Galt's Gulch. Sadly, I think there are no places on earth that would qualify. It will be necessary to stand and fight instead.

There are islands out there just as you described. Off the coast of Cuba are a few. How many acres do you want etc. There are places to go. The clear reality of a move such as this would mean people working together of one accord. For a while it would living off basic necessities while the crops are growing. It can be done but you honestly believe they would leave any of us alone to live our lives? I do not believe they would. For a time they may but after a time they want more and will come to take it. A descendant of Rockefeller was quoted in Ethos as being part of a group of men that are part of the great plan to take over the entire world. If you have not watched Ethos do yourself a favor and watch it. Woody Harrelson narrates. Turn your eyes to the middle east, you will see their plan begin to be put into action over the few months.
There are things we can do. Do not allow yourself to be forced into the FEMA camps. They are death camps. Knowing someone that works for FEMA, has for decades, this person states that it is worse than we can imagine. That we should just live our lives free while we can. They are on emergency standby 24 7. This person is bound by contract to give out no details or else. Even those allowed any insight are high up in the ranks, living with threats to their livelihood's should it be found any where that details of the camps has been leaked in any way. This person is fearful for the first time their life. Things are going to change rapidly now.
Funny thing is that the last time I checked there was not one thing going on in our country that would warrant martial law.
This is their way to gain control of us so they can wreck havoc where ever they so bloody well choose. Look to Israel.

Agenda 21 is a thoughtful reminder that it is in our best interest to be responsible stewards. It doesn’t dictate any changes.It just proposes guidelines. In my state, there has been a recycling program for over twenty years. When I went to visit friends in a small community in Tennessee a few years back, they were still throwing away their bottles and plastics with their garbage Same with South Carolina. You don’t think that is a bit ignorant in this day in age? Recycling efforts have been become mainstay in most states because of Agenda 21. What is so bad about that? What is so bad about trying to come up with policies that keep home-builders from grabbing up the best farming soil to build another unwanted community with a thousand plus cookie cutter townhouses with no yards? Hmm?
With the Industrial age came waste. Is it so far fetched that we implement programs that look to the future and address the waste as we move forward? I would like my country to be innovating and smart about this. If unpopular changes are being made at the government levels it is because no one with any brains in private industry is putting out any better ideas.
I was reading an interview online from NZ where this city's council members were discussing that they would like to address the desire of people like you who don’t want to live in a planned city; instead, they would like a little grass under their feet. They were looking for solutions to address the concerns but also address sustainability. Where are the ideas?
Fear-mongering is stupid. Agenda 21 is non-binding. That’s a fact.
it also could be about quality of life if you put your thinking cap on and add to the discussion.

That is the rub.

Already there, thanks to the generosity of the DHS. Have a nice... um... day...

Ok. You wouldn’t tell me what was in Agenda 21 so I have been researching it.

Agenda 21 is not a law, it is not even a treaty. It is a non-binding agreement with the UN.
A signature to this agreement is nothing more than a symbolic gesture that the signing government will aim for certain environmental goals.
If you don’t like the changes being made, (let’s say by the EPA) vote those allowing for those changes out,
All this looney talk has muddy the waters.

The only way really to change things is to follow John Galt's example. Find a place where we can go, taking hard assets with us, withdrawing from markets and governments, and be reasonably invisible. A private island, perhaps, currently uninhabited, but habitable and capable of sustaining a colony. Cash out of the market, convert the cash to gold and silver coins, and disappear to Galt's Island.

Tickets to Galt's Gulch, of course.

tickets out of the country are more properly in INCH bags...

I totally agree that the focus should be on removing laws that limit person freedoms. I hope that the "silent majority" will finally get so fed up that a new more centrist party can emerge. I'm just not sure what level of chaos it will take to get the movement going.

I'm thinking plane/ship tickets too in the BOB. But where?

We are in deep muck. Are your BOB's ready, folks??

Unfortunately, voting at the State and Federal level really won't make any difference, nor does changing parties since they are one of the same.

To make a real change, the Laws of Plunder that have been laid down upon us over the past 100 years need to be repealed entirely. The laws provide the policy & foundation for ruling us, and unless they are entirely removed from existence, it won't matter who gets into office. The laws remain and so will the pain.

Why aren't there more politicians speaking about changing/removing these dangerous laws? THIS IS THE REAL ISSUE. No, instead, they focus on other diversionary subjects such as abortion, guns, healthcare & of course schools, e.g., kommon kore. Anything else, but the real issue ~ the laws that are suppressing the American people & way of life.