Yes, I am sure. There are thousands of existing contracts in effect with the military industrial complex that will continue, and the congress will still contain hundreds of corrupt hawks. No, the Libertarian Party platform does not call for dissolution of standing armies or navies; they are part of the constitution, and that is the llimited government power that is the libertarian goal.

Are you sure the United States military is not going to disappear under four years of a libertarian president? Does not the ideology of libertarianism, at least as Gary Johnson in particular (that's whom we're talking about) exemplifies it, call for the dissolution of all standing armies and navies? Where is Gary Johnson's complaint at Obama deliberately destroying whatever offensive capability we have left? Crickets, that's where.

I did not respond to what you said, because I deemed it incompetent, irrelevant and immaterial. Because I deemed it at variance with observed fact.

Nothing you said responds to what I said, Temlakos. The US military is not going to disappear under 4 years of a libertarian president. Neither will the espionage army of the CIA and NSA. The statists are here in DC, killing and looting everyday. The enemies domestic are a bigger danger. Fight them or die.

On one hand I agree with you. On the other, I don't want to throw away my vote and let Hillary or Bernie win. However, since I live in MA for the moment, my vote is nothing more than the last act of a dying man, so I should support a breakup of the two-party oligarchy.

In "Hope," http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASI... L. Neil Smith and Aaron Zelman do imagine an unlikely set of circumstances that leads to "breaking the R/D duopoly." Despite some flaws, it lives up to its title IMHO.

Our System is a Socialist Monarchy. The royal couple are the Democrat Party and the Republican Party. And more often than not one party controls by majority in all three branches of government making the country a dictatorship with a few fragments of a constitution holding it back from complete Tyranny. The solution is to restore the government of the people not the one above the people as we have become. Find out how at http://www.TheSocietyProject.org

It is not the leaders that are the main problem; they are only one small part of the problem. The root cause is a corrupted system that can only be repaired through the Constitutional Amendment process. It requires leaders and Congress, the States and the People. Since the problem is systemic no one "Leader" can fix it. A leader can not change the system on their own.
The people must be educated and demand we drive the CARR (Constitutional Amendment Repeal and Repair) through Congress and the State Legislatures. How to restore the government of the people and not above the people is laid out in detail here: http://www.TheSocietyProject.org

The key is that we must give some support as soon as possible so the asteriod is not diverted from the target before gravity takes effect. ;^)

What plan has Gary Johnson to raise a militia and train it properly for homeland defense, and, when necessary (and don't say it's never necessary; Thomas Jefferson solved a lot of problems by sending Commodore Preble to clean out the Barbary Pirates), to carry the war to an external enemy? A lot of good "free markets" will do you if you trade one albatross for another--exit internal "oppressor" (or even thief, which I'll grant you the present regime is), enter invader--and have no plan for dealing with said invader when--not if--he arrives.

Muslims care neither a fig nor a date (the edible kind) for free anything, much less free markets. You will not make the Muslim warfare imperative go away with free-market solutions. Diplomacy fails. Their motives, their morals, and their attitudes are the diametric opposite to those of civilized people. Under no circumstances ought we even try to negotiate with them. Fight or die.

If you doubt me, review the life and career of Ragnar Danneskjöld.

Floss, baby!

I would definitely act upon hurling an asteroid into the Dark Center if it looks doable by election day.
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Where did I leave my water pik?

If we who know the difference do not support the candidates that can make a difference if elected then we are consenting to the actions of the statists. You keep on coming back to the phrase "he can't win" which is only valid if you surrender. What can you do today to make things better? very little, but if you don't even do that little bit and vote based on principles then you are part of the problem, not part of the solution.

Lions and wildebeests are not the same species. They evolved in nature's circle of life. Humans using other humans as prey is an aberration, not true human nature. Evil is the exception, not the rule. Let's lick it, not join it.

Low intelligence and lack of personal responsibility definitely correlates with poor oral care! :)

And that's all that we ever get from the GOP on the national level (congress, potus, scotus, bureaucrats ad infinitum.) "Gimme money, gimme power, trust me, I'm not worse than Hillary."
Today its a rock into a pond. By election day it could be an asteroid into the Dark Center.

I was moved and becoming all the more conflicted as well as frustrated..
I don't see how a vote for Johnson achieves anything more than tossing a rock into a pond.
Yesterday the RNC called me on the phone obviously looking for a donation, though the conversation did not go that far.
First came a recitation of numbers about seats the GOP needed to refill while I was distracted for getting steamed over GOP betrayals.
The caller then asked, "Do you want Hillary in the White House?"
By then I was so angry I don't remember exactly what I said.
It went something like "yack, yack (whatever I said at first)--Republicans playing footsie with Democrats. Look, I'm really getting mad. Have a nice day."
As my right index finger moved to the off button on my Vonage phone, I heard the following from the caller: "But, but Hillary BEEP!"
In a convoluted way, I'm now reminded of "I'm not an emperor" his highness saying "It's all Bush's fault."

My point is that at this point in the USA, it makes little sense to talk about liberty and stuff like that- its just not understood. I think the only way is to show how badly socialism actually works- in practical terms. government gets away with running things very badly, and this should be pointed out.
AS didnt stop statism at all, the movie AS didnt either. How can you expect Gary Johnson to get traction?? Unrealistic

You want to surrender, go ahead. Vote for fascist dictatorship in the GOP. Unfortunately, thats the way they are. Look on youtube and you will see Johnson in the 2012 "debates." He is better than anything seen in the GOP debates this year.

Its a matter of priorities, Temlakos. Do you trust the statists to do what you think is wise after 50 years of betrayals? By comparison Johnson and the libertarians are fantastic. The statists think everything can be solved with force and threats of force. Libertarians think most things can be solved with free market success. The US military is not going to disappear under 4 years of a libertarian president. Neither will the espionage army of the CIA and NSA. The GOP only survives because they instill unwarranted fear.

So you are ready to surrender and be a slave to the statists? If so, then you are right. If good people do not defend liberty by supporting the only non-statist candidate, then it won't go anywhere and we might as well just sign over our production to the Dark Center.
If you want liberty, and you don't want to have an armed revolution to regain it, then you must stop supporting your enemies: the GOP and the Democrats.

One way to accelerate the process of change is to make government programs accountable. These government dudes just get free reign with no one saying it doesnt work. Take a look at Obamacare. I am amazed people dont just rise up about it- I pay twice the amount I used to per month, and have 5x the max out of pocket, and a bigger deductible and co pay. I am sure most people have the same.

basic emotional human nature is pretty bad. Not a lot different from lions vs wildebeasts on the africal plain. Our minds allow us to make a better life for all of us, if those minds are used.

I have voted for Gary Johnson for president before and will do so again.

I agree. We have a majority mob rule system, and there isnt enough education and thinking out there to make these ideas appealing- at this point in time. Let the current system collapse, and things might be different.