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Suspended for helping another student!

Posted by $ Olduglycarl 9 years, 10 months ago to Culture
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I grew up in a very strict time but no one would of suspended anybody for helping someone.
People had full mental capacities and common sense back in those days.
See what happens when the government and the culture take your mind.
Time for John Galt's speech right about now, but I doubt people today can understand it.


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  • Posted by johnpe1 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I looked, and they don't appear to be open, right now.
    my wife is a great cook, and I keep asking her where
    we can find it -- so that I can cook, too! -- j
    .
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Did you catch on to the lingo. Pure California valleyspeak like huh? The quoted students were obvious illiterates themselves. I suppose it doesn't matter when you are in a very small peer group. but having to learn English as a foreign language?
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  • Posted by $ 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Pegged it again my friend...she's lost that lovin feelin...once one looses mutuality with others, it's over...they've taken the mind.

    It clearly would have been in her own "rational self interest" to help...only sheep and dear just stand there taking no action...or as you said...only taking orders and not knowing right from wrong.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 9 months ago
    I vas only following orders mein herren when I let your daughter die. She could have sent some of the students running for help she could have got off her ass and strolled over with an attitude and seen what was wrong or what could be done and don't tell me she wasn't a red cross nor green cross card holder. She could have done a lot of things but she didn't.

    The teacher didn't care. she was willing to let the student die. I don't care t about feeble weak scummy excuses but that Only Following Orders crap is left wing socialist fascist Serrious trouble? That's what lawyers are for.. She never heard of the good samaritan laws? Can nobody rid us of these animal scum! No dean no principle, no administrator no janitor no cell phone to call an ambulance she did nothing. No cell phone? Teenagers? BS no way to contact anyone else in the absence of her superiors.

    These people don't care about human lives .....she's just another Hillary.

    What's her excuse besides a nuremberg defense? Which isn't a defense but an admission of guilty with a plea for clemency.

    My rational and considered opinion delivered in calm unctuous tones. Is have a trial find her guilty, take her down to the pound with the other animals. They have gas chambers.

    Think those kids are going to feel safe in that classroom every again? Watch their teacher let someone die?

    Maybe she thinks that brown lives don't matter?

    Yes and i did clean up the orignal....this is a family hour forum. my apoligies
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  • Posted by mccannon01 9 years, 9 months ago
    Looks like the teacher was acting in accordance with the rules of the collective, which trump the existence or well being of any individual member of said collective. The girl was no different than a single worker ant in the colony, whose loss is insignificant compared to trampling the rules guiding the harmony of the colony, which was done by the student trying to save her life and he was punished for it. Let that be a lesson for the other worker ants.
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  • Posted by Flootus5 9 years, 9 months ago
    I remember an event when I was in 6th grade back in 1966. The students were practicing a play and all standing in a line waiting to recite their dialogue parts.

    Suddenly a young long haired blonde girl collapsed from fainting. Guess who handled it. The teacher. She sat her up, got her on her knees and had her bow over to get her head between her knees. Blood and oxygen flowed back into the brain and she recovered. End of story.
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  • Posted by blackswan 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The teacher would have gotten into serious trouble if she had left a classroom full of students to care for that one student. She might have called a dean to come and take the student to the nurse, if one had been available. In any case, being proactive is not generally in a school's operating plans; just follow orders. So, if you want to fire anyone, fire the administration.
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  • Posted by johnpe1 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    are scruples made from scratch? . I keep looking
    at the grocery store for scratch, and can't find any.
    maybe they couldn't, either! -- Good One;;; Sharp Son! -- j
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  • Posted by LibertyBelle 9 years, 9 months ago
    I wanted to leave a comment, but I really don't have
    much time (limited use in the public library) or pa-
    tience to read Terms of Service and/or Privacy
    Policies on websites, which has caused me con-
    siderable annoyance and trouble already in looking for jobs. So I gave up the idea of com-
    menting on that article to the publishers of that
    article on the Internet, and am commenting here.
    Of course, public education is no part of the
    proper function of government (except for police
    academies, military technical training, and may-
    be physical training for legitimate government
    functions, such as repairing the furnace in the
    courthouse). Also, since education teaches
    thought processes, it is something the govern-
    ment (whether Federal, State, or local) should
    definitely not be in charge of.-- And what you
    get is jail presided over by contemptible, power-
    lusting tyrants.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I've told this one before, but I think you'll appreciate it. I'll leave out the myriad adjectives.
    My son & I in a fairly fancy restaurant. The waiter takes his time getting around to us. We're on our lunch break and need to be back at the office soon. Finally the waiter deems to ask for our order. My son whispers, "Watch this." He says to the waiter, "Do you have scruples?" Waiter looks puzzled. He says, "I don't think so."
    Son says, "Ask the chef, please." Waiter comes back and says, "The chef says we don't have scruples." Son stands up looking very angry, "What! You don't have scruples? I won't eat at any restaurant that doesn't have scruples!" and he storms out. We bought some tacos at a taco stand on the way back to the office.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    1 Brain = 1 Box of Rocks.
    Hey, that might make a fun topic. Relate an experience you've had with one of the Marching Morons.
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  • Posted by mccwho 9 years, 9 months ago
    The Teacher is one who should be in trouble.

    Whats next, email the fire dept a building is burning? And than a second email someone is trapped inside? Mean time you are watching it happen and not lift a finger. (Like most stupid reporters would do.)
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  • Posted by Timelord 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Elderly nerds rule!

    I especially enjoy when I encounter a policy that's physically (or logically) impossible and having to step some poor schmuck through the logic step by step - sometimes 2 or 3 times, all in an attempt to get a higher-up on the line. Just as annoying are contradictory policies. The drones are incapable of understanding them, they can usually recite them, though.

    I might have related this once before... I was grocery shopping, Gorton's fish was on sale. I was choosing between two slightly different kinds and the price tag for one of them was absent. I wanted whichever one was cheaper per pound. (I also had a foot that was so painful I could barely walk on it and thus a hugely obvious limp.) I made it to the register area and asked the head cashier how much it cost. She went to an empty register and scanned it and told me the price. I asked how much per pound (thinking it might say on the price lookup). Reply, it's sold by the box, sir, not by the pound. Yes, I understand that, but there's still a cost/pound, can you tell me that? Sir, it's only sold by the box! {{{Grrrr, if I put your brain in a box I could get by with a very small one!}}}
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  • Posted by Timelord 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Agreed! By the time I switched back to this page I had forgotten his awful grammar. But he clearly learned it from his mom...
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  • Posted by Ducky 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The teacher should have felt the fear--of being sued for inaction, had that young lady died. Add incidences like this to all the other psychological assaults kids are forced to endure while being institutionally "schooled," and you have to wonder how long this already-outdated model will last.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 9 years, 9 months ago
    Ridiculous. Just another example of people requiring the government (in this case the school nurse) for help, and asserting others can't demonstrate this isn't the way forward.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That training paperwork we were required to sign was all about the transfer of legal liability from the department to the officers.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I trust the teacher was suspended and fired and then a suit filed while she waited calmly for a child to die......you do realize the incredulity of a nation trained to kill children with out remorse. One that treats it's dogs better than it treats children. Will be directed at me for saying that. M2F at human monsters like that.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You are probably right. When I wrote "Come to think of it" the thought of the parents suing popped into my head right then and there.
    Hopefully all the embarrassing press will bring about a change to that protocol.
    While I was in the DOC, there were constant memos about some modification to standard operating procedure.
    At least one or up to three prestige jargon words were sure to appear in each memo: implement, utilize and facilitate.
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  • Posted by Ducky 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The only thing wrong about his language was his grammar, which is what I would have docked him for, had he been my student ;^).
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  • Posted by Ducky 9 years, 9 months ago
    Many similar instances have been reported across the country, not just in schools, but in all government institutions--perhaps the most disturbing of which is our military. (Think of the Green Beret who stopped a child rape in Afghanistan, and is probably going to be dishonorably discharged for it.)

    One of the tactics of statist thugs is to punish individuals who violate orders, especially when the orders fly in the face of morality. The goal is to destroy empathy and the natural tendency of the individual to act on his own judgment.
    Without empathy, society can be much more easily controlled by the power-elites; individuals will turn their backs on their fellow "subjects" with hope of earning favor by those in control.

    It's really this simple: It's not about education, it's not about health care, or having a safe country, or a healthy economy, or a fail-safe power-grid/water system, environment, or anything else they promise. It's about controlling YOU. Gently if possible, but by force if necessary.
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  • Posted by johnpe1 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    it's just simple teamwork -- he would hope that
    someone would do it for him if he were choking! -- j
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