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  • Posted by Suzanne43 10 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Spot on! Short and to the point. A commune is a collective. But in the Gulch, you have to be self-reliant and think for yourself. you also have property rights. Quite a few collectivists like to point to the success of the American Shaker movement forgetting that the Shakers were first motivated by religion. (They practiced celibacy.) It was their religion that carried them on for so many years. Finally, the Industrial Revolution, the lack of converts and orphans, and their communism did them in.
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  • Posted by term2 10 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Its also a state of mind. As to actual actions you might take, there would be things that were needed to make it possible for the gulch to survive, so all could contribute. There are situations where the lifeboat analogy would apply, particularly when the gulch was small
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  • Posted by Temlakos 10 years, 4 months ago
    The commune owns everything, including your labor. But in the Gulch you own your labor, its fruits, and whatever you can earn--and you are responsible for defending what's yours. I would surmise the Gulch has a Committee of Safety, consisting of the largest stakeholders, or their proxies. The Triumvirs seem to function as a Committee of Safety: Francisco d'Anconia in his own right, John Galt as proxy for Midas Mulligan, and Ragnar Danneskjöld as a man on a mission--and, I would imagine, earning a lot of commissions.
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  • Posted by teri-amborn 10 years, 4 months ago
    In the Gulch your individual efforts build your own life and wealth because there is a monetary system in which there is a medium of exchange.

    In a commune wealth (if any can be obtained) is shared. Communal living must demand action from the individual for the good of the group.

    In the Gulch you work for yourself.
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  • Posted by tdechaine 10 years, 4 months ago
    Both are private. GG is comprised of rational men who are independent and productive; a commune includes collectivists who are the opposite.
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    Posted by Grendol 10 years, 4 months ago
    You work for yourself here, in a commune you work for all.
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  • Posted by gcarl615 10 years, 4 months ago
    I have to admit that I was somewhat stunned by this question. To me there is absolutely no comparison, with the possible exception of less sex. I kinda think that when are proud of their abilities and production, they have a greater sense of self worth and their sex drive goes up.The only thing is that at the end of day you might be too tired... LOL
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 10 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    On subject a commuity Kommune in parts of Europe refers to a small gathering of a few houses and barns where people gathered for mutual support and protection venturing out to the their woodlots, fields, pastures or perhaps fishing during the day. One town in Norway listed as a commune on the national tax roles had the suffix gaard meaning farm and it's root denoted a place where any further up the fjord oars were required...and we have them. thus the place where oars were made and farming conducted. gard or gaard means farm. Nothing so heroic as meaning guard in the english sense but still a protective commune or community.

    I often refer to the gulch as a 'state of mind.
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  • Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 10 years, 4 months ago
    Greetings johnmcgrath,
    That depends upon your meaning. The word as spelled has different connotations. http://dictionary.reference.com/brows...
    Only #1 of the three options provided in the link I supplied is applicable to Galt's Gulch in the abstract. Here in this online community, the answer to your question is in the reading.
    You may wish to be more specific.
    I see you have not commented here previously so we have no idea of your knowledge of the books or philosophy... where to begin?
    Respectfully,
    O.A.
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  • Posted by edweaver 10 years, 4 months ago
    Are you asking about the gulch in AS or this gulch? Not sure that there is a comparison to either but wanted to understand where the question is coming from.
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