Deals? Trump confirms that he'll cut deals with Pelosi and Schumer. Is this Good or Bad?

Posted by $ HarmonKaslow 8 years, 3 months ago to Politics
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If the Republicans control the House and Senate, then what sort of deal needs to be made with Pelosi and Schumer? Listen to Trump on MSNBC (Jan 26, 2016)


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  • Posted by TheRealBill 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    No, he says he will control others, not you. He also doesn't admit it is stealing your money. Unless he admits it to be theft he isn't being honest about it.

    Even if he did, admitting he wants to steal everyone's money wouldn't make him honest (just as foolish as Mondale) when he is dishonest about pretty much everything else.
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    He tells you right upfront that he is going to steal from you and control you. As opposed to Hillary and Obama who lie and manipulate
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    thats even better. Moose Steak with a big fillet of lake trout on top on the grille Not as common as it used to be.
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  • Posted by scojohnson 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    yeah... I'm not a fan of Oregon... I wouldn't fit in there politically I don't think, California is bad enough, but even we trust people to pump their own gasoline... I'm kind of eyeballing Utah or New Mexico to be honest with summers elk/moose hunting in Canada with my fifth wheel.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Good choice and you can retire to Oregon and pay no income tax at all after you deduct the amount paid to Califormia. Just joking ...not about the deduction but about Oregon. A lot of sort of smog up there now.
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  • Posted by scojohnson 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I see your point, but we also see the end result of 20 years of free trade... Let's take an example that I am pretty familiar with... how much do you think it costs to grow a ton of grapes in California? My guess is probably more than the $320 that most varieties will sell for on the market... but conveniently due to NAFTA, they can be grown in Mexico with non-treated sewer water for irrigation, picked by people making $2.00 an hour, and hauled across the border the next day. Now expanding on that, the price you pay in the grocery store is certainly not what the growers earn, I know that because I buy 10 bell peppers for a dollar at the Saturday morning farmers market and when in-season I can buy 50 lbs of tomatoes for $20 or 100 lbs of oranges to turn into orange juice for about $10. During the same weekend, a stop at the local 5 star grocery store will be about $1.00 each for a bell pepper. Of course, California can easily supply virtually all of the US with fresh high quality produce, but thanks to NAFTA, it's cheaper for the central states & east-coast (non-edible stuff in my opinion) to boat-in the older stuff from Chile/Mexico/Nicaragua/Colombia than to ship it by train/truck over the Rockies. Unfortunately, it also can't really be shipped to Asia due to spoilage, so some would be shipped to Canada and the Western states, but a lot of the surplus is dumped for rock-bottom prices on the local economy and the remainder is simply dumped for pet & cattle feed.

    So in your small business example, you (as a small business) are not really competitive in the market for manufacturing your product overseas and hauling it in by the container shipment or bringing in produce by the hundreds of railcars from Mexico to sell at a high price at retail. You probably couldn't afford the volume commitments, the storage, or the retail space in a market that would move it. Are you paying less to put food on your table? not really, you are just paying a 'too big to fail' retailer that is a very nasty competitor to your small business for your local customers...

    I just saw on the news last night, a small neighborhood grocery store in a town with 900 people in it was crushed in 8 months after Walmart opened a Neighborhood Grocery Market there (and I'll admit, I like the Walmart Neighborhood sized grocery stores, because I have no use for their substandard sporting goods, cheap electronics, etc. in the full size units)... I really prefer Amazon... as do most people and why Walmart is finally getting killed.. but 18 months after opening the Neighborhood Market, and 12 months after killing the only other grocery store for 30 miles... Walmart decided that 900 people in the town was simply not enough to sustain a Walmart... Shocker... Now the round trip is 60 miles for the townsfolk to pick up a head of lettuce or an onion or a gallon of milk. I'm thinking AmazonPantry to the rescue... but doesn't help them with a bottle of milk or a dozen eggs. They may have to go back to the way we used to do it... raise some chickens and have a cow or goat or something in the backyard..
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The problem with that is that the tariff money goes to fund an increase in our socialism, and makes it more difficult for small businesses like mine to be competitive within the USA. My costs go up, but customers here cant afford higher prices, and will buy less. Its true that finished goods that china sells here would go up also, but so much of the products that we buy here are bought from china and then resold by american companies to the citizens here. The only one that benefits from the tariffs would be our government.
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  • Posted by scojohnson 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    They don't take cheap printed dollars in exchange though, while dollars certainly are affected by inflation, but more deflationary in recent years (just compare to gold), China actively manipulates its currency in relation to the dollar. They dump their own currency on the foreign exchange markets and buy dollars in return to hold much of their reserves in (and buy US Treasuries). By doing so, their currency devalues compared to the dollar, and their goods seem artificially low in cost while increasing the cost of US goods.

    In an ideal world, we buy their consumer junk, and they buy our heavy industry products, highly skilled professional services, aircraft, etc.. low product into the high-efficiency US economy, higher-value product out. They don't do that though, they to sell us stuff on a free trade agreement, and then buy French Airbuses that enjoy a sovereign-subsidized employee and industrial base, so Airbus doesn't really have to bake-in the full cost of production and taxation into their jets they sell compared to Boeing or General Dynamics, Northrup, etc.

    While China isn't a great example, they should simply be dealt with by penalty tariffs for currency manipulation and trade imbalance, while in the case of Japan, South Korea, etc.. where we (taxpayers) are heavily subsidizing their defense (from China and North Korea), those trade agreements should have required targets that would for example, force tariffs on competitive products from other countries... Is that fair? Hell no, I don't like fair in business. Fair is for losers. Fair is their defending their own country against their enemies on their own dime. If they need help, they need to help us out too.
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  • Posted by scojohnson 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    California state employment gives 10% point preference, I'd personally never be a federal employee, I've been a federal contractor / private sector and CA civil service and even an appointed CA executive once. I'd never do the federal civil service thing, too many gloomy/unhappy people, poor benefits package, and poor pension (for people in the 'new' tier). I'd add that the package is probably commensurate with the quality of work of a typical federal employee in the Beltway/etc.. but I happen to have market-competitive skills that would make it a bad choice for me personally.

    Municipalities employ differently as well, in general, the federal standard is the minimum, most states and municipalities choose to enhance upon that.
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    hmm. I didnt know that they could do here what they did in cyprus when the banks failed there. Damn !!!

    I suspect there will be atm and internet restrictions on removing funds too

    as well as making gold and silver illegal AGAIN like they did in the 30's, just prior to a big dollar devaluation
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Hope you've gotten out of stocks, 401, IRA and keep only what you need to pay the next bill in the bank. Check and see if your bank is connected to other banks involved in dirrivitives. Go to a small unconnected local bank if you have to.
    barney/frank allows your bank, upon failure to use your deposits and stocks to pay off their short comings and there is nothin you can do about it. THAT SUCKS...just can't imagine the brain that thought that one up. Pure Evil...ya and that is mystical, however appropriate.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You are referring to the law (2003 ) that protects veterans from foreclosure, puts off payment of certain debts or loans, provides protection for family members mostly due to sharp decreases in pay when called to or going on active duty.

    The zero five and ten point system is a hiring preference and guarantee of return to former civilian job and preference over applicant for government jobs.

    Two different things. Ten points doesn't appear as a specific item in the 2003 law but is t he highest awarded in the 1994 upgrade law which has only three levels. Non vet = 0 fiive points for serving honorably and 10 points for certain levels of injury normally requires combat participation.
    google will get you on the right track as both are important. But acing out the five and zero point applicants as the only ten pointer in the group put me ahead of the pack.
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    They are right about becoming another venezuela. What happens is that the wealth is squandered to support socialism, and then it collapses. With the national debt so high in the USA now, we are teetering on the collapse of the dollar. The wealth of the country has been spent on the debt plus unfunded liabilities. The only think propping up the dollar is that people believe (falsely) in it still. One day that will disappear and we will wake up to having nothing
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It came about by the US Congress passing various veterans preference acts and job security acts and the president signing same and now it's law. Not a hard thing to understand. for a campaign service medal you get five points same as any one who served without a BCD. Ten points are reserved for Combat Veterans with some sort of permanent injury it used to include those with purple hearts. At the federal level Military sealift command for one gained the right to deny ten pointers five of the ten points.

    If you are a retiree you get zip doo dah returning to the old job but you get to use the points to get government jobs. other than VA which doesn't seem to hire veterans. Start with soldiers and sailors relief act as amended and follow thorugh to the replacement law and it's follow up for people returning to civilian jobs.

    Across the board.

    Gotta read the rules unless there is a new law that gives 10 points to REMFs
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yea, clearly the left is lost...they must sense they are about to become irrelevant. Our danger now is with the non liberal Progressives (big government) on both sides...they are the one's that confounded our language, our history, our health and our education...they gotta be stopped or we're done.
    Recently it was relayed that a democrat and republican establishment type are worried we will become another Venezuela.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Ayn Rand. "For any question there are three answers. Right, Wrong, Compromise. Which makes two wrong and one right answer."
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I hate bi partisanship and cross partisanship. That is what gave us a one party two faced system of government. I don't want them agreeing on much of anything. i want to see congressional blood not this nicey nice give in caving. Won't happen though it's all one party wth not a dimes worth of serious difference same political philosophy.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Always best to give the weakest candidate the most support if no more than to ensure Trump doesn't make it past first base. Then worry about the General Election later. Candidate raiding is a time honored political maneuver and you don't really violate principles and ethics until the General Election. Which of course is farily meaningless so no big deal. My other trick is to get people to re-register Democrat vote for Sanders by the droves then re register back to their former party. That kills Hillary in the primary but the support disappears by the fall for Sanders.

    And you can still leave those two lines blank. That way you fought evil and didn't succumb to it which is the best I can offer. Building up the 46% anti establishment group is my real prime concern. Same applies at all levels. Raid the other side vote in the weakest idiot they have and return to home base.
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I think that Trump is very practical. He is for what will work in the end, which I kind of like. I suspect he thinks farther ahead than the end of the current speech, unlike Obama, Sanders, and Hillary. They propose these things that are patently ridiculous. 62.4% tax on capital gains that Sanders proposes will just kill off people starting companies. Why go thru all the work only to lose 2/3 of what you create???
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    LBJ by far the worst followed by Carter. Even though the Bush's both won their wars something no Democrat can claim with a straight face the Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama 28 years saw the startup of a fascist police state just to mention one item. That's when we figured out the Rinos and Dinos were the same party.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Don't know about you but I want to hear what guides a man in his endeavors...even if it's religiously stated...as pagan like, it is...I know, through years of untwisting and revealing the quantum truths of it, what is meant by what is said.
    Someone that's full of themselves and doesn't even involve us in the process, doesn't empower us to be the best we can and storms out in a hissy fit cause we hold their feet to the fire, is not the man or women for the job.
    I like you am tired of these bicameral idiots...I want a man that is morally conscious with a connection to a healthy mind and to have that, they must have a functional brain.
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