Philosophical Detection: Rand Paul rewrites the constitution with religious legislation

Posted by ewv 8 years, 3 months ago to Politics
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Rand Paul has re-introduced his "Life at Conception Act" abolishing all abortion rights by decreeing that cells are "human persons" at conception.

The 'novel legal theory' on behalf of the anti-abortion rights agenda seeks to overthrow Roe v Wade and the lack of constitutional authority to prohibit abortions by arbitrarily asserting that cells are "persons" under 14th amendment "equal protection" of "the right to life of each born and unborn [sic] human".

He claims that his redefinition, which crushes the rights of actual human beings, "does not amend or interpret the Constitution, but simply relies on the 14th Amendment, which specifically authorizes Congress to enforce its provisions".

Paul's legislation would impose what he claims "most Americans believe and what science has long known - that human life begins at the moment of conception, and therefore, is entitled to legal protection". He does not cite what "science" has endorsed the claim that a cell is "entitled to legal protection" or what "science" endorses his equivocation between human persons and cells with human genes in a package-deal labeled "human life", foisted in the name of "most Americans". (A current conservative fad is to change the subject to "giraffes" and laugh at their victims.)

Moral concepts, including 'rights', apply to rational beings, i.e., human persons who must make choices, which are the facts which give rise to morality. They do not apply to cells and embryos. The notion that they do is religious mysticism attributing intrinsic characteristics as reified floating abstractions to be taken on faith. But Paul doesn't need to justify it in a world of anti-concepts and statism in which the illogic is intended to be enforced by the power of Congress out of an alleged "duty" to follow down a verbal rabbit hole (a.k.a. theocracy). Faith and force are corollaries.

Having wiped out the rights of real human persons with this change that isn't a change, Paul claims that "the right to life is guaranteed to all Americans [now meaning cells and embryos displacing actual Americans] in the Declaration of Independence[!], and it is the constitutional duty [sic] of all members of Congress to ensure this belief is upheld.

Conservatives who persistently claim to be "originalists" on the meaning of the Constitution have no qualms over changing the Constitution to impose religious duties that are not in the Constitution or the Declaration of Independence, and which played no philosophical or historical role in the founding of the country and our form of government. Human cells and fetuses were not discussed, let alone included under the Enlightenment "reason and the rights of man" or any discussion of constitutional authority. Entitlements to 'life' of cells at "conception" are a 19th century dogma of the Catholic Church. Perhaps they will next try to read it into the 1st Amendment under "the right of the people peaceably to assemble".

The contorted "logic" of these arguments employed in slippery political demagoguery proclaiming "constitutional duties" to violate the rights of people in the name of "the rights of all Americans" and "science" is a prime example of rationalism: It illustrates how rationalism verbally manipulates words as floating abstractions without regard for the meaning of concepts in reality, shifting meanings in passing from one end of a sentence to the other. It counts on a lack of understanding of concepts and objectivity for cognition.

The sales pitch for the "Life at Conception Act" illustrates how the verbal game, however serious and "sincere" in intention, is exploited in political maneuvers carefully crafted to manipulate people through rationalizing contradictory, religious mysticism in the name of logic and science to buttress a preconceived, religious political agenda -- taking us back to the medieval subordination of reason as a handmaiden to faith.

Most people can see through the sophistry behind the "Life at Conception Act" even if they don't see all the conceptual fallacies and grasp only that "something is fishy". It illustrates how Rand Paul's quirky arguments based on the cultural anti-conceptual mentality undermine support for his otherwise good policies, and discredit anything called "tea party" or "libertarian" in any sense of that word through a religious package-deal-coming-home-to-roost. It's an inevitable consequence of the philosophical and intellectual bankruptcy of the modern conservative movement undermining civilization and destroying the originally secular "tea party", no matter how much conservatives appeal to the rhetoric of "constitutional scholarship" and "proven traditions".

Press release: https://www.paul.senate.gov/news/pres...

Bill: http://www.paul.senate.gov/imo/media/...


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  • Posted by 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Limiting the welfare state is a political position and not enough to counter moral claims. Preventing murder is a proper government function, not welfare statism. The confusion caused by religious mysticism in attributing "intrinsic rights" to cells has to be answered on the philosophical level with proper concepts and principles. You can't count on common sense when atrocious anti-concepts spread through the population.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Science does know when life begins, but he is equivocating on the meaning. Cells are "alive" and there is a distinct event at conception creating a potential for a new human person. The cells are "human" in the sense that they have human genes, but that is not what is meant by a human as a person, and has nothing to do with having "rights". The equivocation is an example of rationalism trying to promote a religious cause.

    Some libertarians are religious and some not, but the common thread is that the libertarian movement has always plunged into the middle of politics with no philosophical basis. It's not surprising that they so often indulge in such embarrassing spectacles based on being naively susceptible to religious arguments.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Rand Paul is getting attention for his "Life at Conception" bill all right. He has made a spectacle of himself that is an embarrassment to him and to the entire 'tea party' movement he has packaged it with. He was even called on it in the most recent, Jan 28, 2016, Fox debate where he tried to circumvent his own anti-libertarian Federal coercion in own his bill with double talk http://fusion.net/story/261884/rand-p....

    The timing with the Iowa evangelicals is probably no coincidence, but he has done this before, including trying to include it in an irrelevant 2012 flood insurance bill, where he managed to make even Harry Reid seem plausible in comparison. http://thehill.com/video/senate/23474...
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  • Posted by 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Religion also has a long record of opposing birth control on the same mystical basis. Catholic dogma still does. It was only in the 1970s that the Supreme Court outlawed their bans in this country.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    All other lives, those that do not yet and may never exist, and all "God's Creatures". The whole package is the history of Christianity, which dominated the Dark and Middle Ages.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    This mentality is why "Retfird's" account was suspended. Note that militant religionists support it, at this writing with 5 votes of support. This is supposed to be a forum for Ayn Rand's philosophy of reason.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    No one one understands fully how the nervous system works, especially for states of conscious awareness. We do know the axiomatic fact of consciousness as awareness of existence through the selective focus of abstraction, discrimination and similarity, and that we as living entities are conscious and must choose to think and focus to live. Whatever the mechanisms of neurons and the role of electrical signals, cells are not moral creatures and do not have rights. The concepts do not apply to them, nor is the religious notion of 'intrinsic rights' of cells (and for that matter people) based on it.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    A new born baby is not "virtually the same" as its previous biological state, which is a literal parasite on the woman's body with no cognitive contact with the external world to even begin a conscious processing of it. The unborn is a potential human being and does not have "rights" as an entitlement to become one.

    Being "uncomfortable" with any late abortion is a feeling based on non-essential similarities in the continuum of development. Feelings are not a basis for rights. Focusing on those similarities drops the context of the full conditions under which it is surviving at all. The abrupt change in environment is an essential difference.

    This is not a matter of a "balance" of rights. There are no rights to balance against the woman's rights. Rights do not conflict. There is much more to this than framing it as "self defense" by the woman choosing not to give birth. It requires understanding the conceptual basis for morality and rights: the facts that give rise to them and what they apply to.

    Comparisons in the latest stages of development before birth is at least something to discuss, but Rand Paul's "Life at Conception" bill and its promotion criminalizing doctors and women as murderers for interfering with cells, which is what this thread is about, doesn't even get that far. It is complete mysticism at the most primitive and barbaric level.

    If the current legal situation is pragmatism rather then based objectively on philosophical principle it is because today everything is, which is why we have the constant pressure group warfare on this issue and everything else. The attempt to counter Pragmatism with religion and its mystical notion of 'intrinsic rights' is only bringing the whole controversy to a lower, more primitive level of irrationalism.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    No one is advocating killing children. Rand Paul wants to criminalize women and their doctors as murderers based on a mystical notion of "rights" of cells at "conception".
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  • Posted by 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "Retfird" (look it up) has not provided rational argument. It's personal attacks of "unclarified blather" has not discussed the initial post at all. That is why its account was suspended. Your own attack of "confused" for rejecting the hooliganism is no better.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The unborn is not a kind of "person" and not a "human being". Forcing woman to give birth is not about "saving people's lives", it is about imposing sacrifice for a mystical notion of rights. A clump of cells or a fetus is not a person and does not have rights. The concept of rights does not apply to it.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The "clump of cells" is not a human being. It has the potential to eventually become a person under required conditions and the initial clump at "conception" usually does not even without being aborted. The concept of rights does not apply to cells. This is not an argument of "convenience" and no one is "killing children". Your post is conceptually incoherent.
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  • Posted by $ sjatkins 8 years, 3 months ago
    Real ethics is based on the nature of the beings involved. In the case of humans it is based on our ability to reason and choose between alternatives and our thriving being utterly depended on being free to do so.

    A fetus, especially a 1st trimester fetus is not remotely capable of such. However there is no question of the rights of the woman carrying it. Thus the question would seem open and shut at least early in pregnancy.

    For a government to simply decree rights accrue to any all fertilized eggs is an affront to actual rights.

    It is a shame. On many issues I like and support Rand Paul more than any other candidate in this season. But he keeps dynamiting my respect.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Simple plus complex = the same conclusion. At some point the child is a citizen when the child is aborted as it is being born and in absence of a trial and all the trimmings it is murder. I had to endure the taunts that passed for a welcome home from Vietnam and the cries of Baby Killer. Then I look at those who support partial birth abortion and ask the question? Who are the real baby murderers?

    Thankfully, this time, my stance and that of SCOTUS coincide. I was taking a position and I was stating facts.

    I was also indicting a good portion of the population. It went like this...

    "A pox on both of your extremist selfish, egotistical views."

    That should have been a major tip off it wasn't personal. Apparently it was too subtle.
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  • Posted by $ Radio_Randy 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I wasn't taking a position, merely stating a fact.

    My position on abortion is much more complex, from the fact of knowing women who've done it for mere convenience, to experiencing the difficulty in obtaining simple sterilization procedures because of church mandates.
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  • Posted by IndianaGary 8 years, 3 months ago
    I've long thought Paul (among others) insane. This attempt to institutionalize religious dogma as law simply confirms it.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    When the decision is made voluntarily. when it isn't all your arguments disappear. As you ended and rightly ended. Voluntary sex is not just a natural right it involved responsibility and refusing one while taking the other is a morally reprehensible act

    but then we live in a country that treats dogs better than it treats children. One of Heinleins great moral truths and never been proved wrong.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Just imagine if abortions were classified as a normal medical procedure . The discussion would simply go away and one of this would even be necessary.

    Which is not my stance but just as ridiculous a statement isntead

    Just imagine a world where impregnating 12 year old are considered an acceptable rite of passage and one where the notion of women having any rights at all as to the use of their bodies is foreign concept. That would be no more acceptable but it is accepted

    The dividing line is and remains protection of a citizen unable to protect themselves against being murdered. That happens when viability is reached. It's strictly a civil rights question since treating it any other way, as morals or as a medical issue have been set aside

    The only question is when a viable citizen is murdered without benefit of judge, jury, defense attorney and murdered by one of it's own family members how are we any deifferent than an Islamic.

    We aren't but we adopt a holier than though attitude as if we weren't EXACTLY the same and just as barbaric as if we were invoking Allah instead of Jesus.

    Hypocritical sanctimonious clap trap mean nothing to a murdered child and nothing to a government who has set aside the concept of civil rights and protection from violence for a special class of it's own culture.

    We treat our dogs better than we treat our children and have the guts to point fingers at Islamics? Viability means the ability to live and survive outside the womb. There is no question murder is wrong at that point. the only question in which direction and to what extent we are willing to extend that special right. After all if you wish to kill the child why not the mother? Why not the father?

    And if you wish to ban the practice while it is lump of protoplasm and demand full gestation are willing to help pay for the all that folows? Even uinto age 21 an full adulthood or 23 if in a school?

    Shame on you.

    Who appointed you judge, jury, and executioner and what makes you difference that any other run of the mill sex deviate? Or who appointed you the giver of life and sentenced society to pay for your beliefs?

    A pox on both of your extremist selfish, goTistical views.

    And you bitch about soldiers learining to break things and kill. Killing is state sanctioned. Minus that sanction it is not killing but murder. There is a six month window even for legitimate pregnancies. Where a 12 or so year old child is involved shoot onsight is fine with me. That involves only animal control
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That is also true.and worse than that I here no outcry for 12 year old mothers from girls being used as gang initiation toys. It takes a very special kind of animal to do that to a child and a special kind animal mentality to condone it
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  • Posted by mspalding 8 years, 3 months ago
    Those who are upset by abortion at any stage should be all out for birth control. Yet oddly, many anti-abortion folks are not working to provide birth control to teens. The sex is going to happen regardless.
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  • Posted by JoleneMartens1982 8 years, 3 months ago
    I think this is brilliant! He's doing what he can to both raise awareness of himself as a political threat, and showing his ability to play the game. And it was great timing. At this point it is being seen as a race between Cruz and Trump, if you are a candidate and you want attention, you must raise awareness, use your wits to get ahead, Politics 101.
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