The part that convinced me was when the navy fighter pilots who came to assist that ship and the other one found no evidence sightings, radar readings etc of any other watercraft but did report Turner Joy was out of position and in North Vietnam's territorial waters. Nor was any evidence of battle damage produced. That was however used as the excuse for authorized incursions across that line. Not that they weren't assisting the South Vietnamese rebel forces. But the whole thing turned into a economic based exercise in making LBJ and his corporate friends rich. By the end the US military had secured the northern end of Vietnam that's when I left the last time 1971. Then the long retreat from success of sorts started. Something that has continued ever since. In retrospect I see no reason to go to war when the ordained conclusion is, in the end, what? What has changed is the remarkable difference in death rates of US Service personnel. Still most of them go in the left's column but there now numbered in the few to several thousand instead instead of that same number as a monthly entry. Yet we can't secure the middle third of the Arizona border. Besides Kuwait have their been other successes? the former Yugoslav countries seem to have settled down. The chance to settle some issues in Iraq by splitting away Kurdistan was ignored even though Iraq is a fabricated country. Afghanistan has won again as if the country itself has been cast as a place doomed to eterenal failure by the planet. And our sworn enemies (their words not ours) are being given the means to destroy us.
In retrospect I loved the work those 24 years but other than a paycheck when I looked back at the civilian population who sent us to all those places in the Americas and Asia and Europe I have wonder. What's it all about Alfie?
Having most of the much vaunted retirement benefits reneged on does not make me a fan of the idea of civilians in charge of government but the current careerists in the military do not excite me overly much either. The country has no morals or values and the military apparently has forgotten their oath of office as well. All but a few units Their may be hope. But I don't see it it happening without leadership and i don't see any leaders on the horizon just looters, moochers, and destroyers. Oh well I'm in my 28thth year of retirement after 24 years of wearing the uniform. Thanks for the monthly check such as it is. That was Alfie's answer to the question. That's what it was all about.

I cling to the Constitution as I would a life raft or life buoy or life jacket. It is the center of my beliefs from habit and years of service. Around me I see a country that is sinking and attempting to take my ability to stay afloat from me and others like me. And much ado about a sum total of nothing available to those who never learned how to swim. Not a life guard in sight.

The USNS Turner Joy. It needs the blue and yellow stripes of shame painted on the funnel

OIn the other hand the Captain of the ship that started the Vietnam War and is now anchored at public display in Bremerton Washington in the spot that used to host a battle ship was promoted given a medal etc. etc etc.

The mint press formerly known as the fifth column press had the following gratuitous statement mixed in with absolutely no proofs, cites, or explanations offered. Neither did the LA Times which didn't use the following paragraph

"The U.S. Navy’s installation at Guantanamo Bay has been the scene of the worst treatment of detainees by the US government in decades. The sailors captured by Iran were not waterboarded, deprived of sleep or food, sexually abused, or otherwise tortured. The United States does not have the moral authority to object to how another nation treats detainees."

Looks to me like more left wing fascist bullshit which is curious since it's their President running Guantanamo.

The ability to neutralize the systems is much more plausible they may be rag head but as people like American Sniper Kyle....said they may be ragheads bu they are not stupid.

But that rest of it is pure pravda just like the unsubstantiated story about Ayn Rand lying to immigration.

That publication was advertised as main lestream reporting in the Rand accusation turned out to be fringe looney publications and then had the freaking Guardian as the transmittal mechanism which means comptely suspect.

Damn shame dragging in the paragraph above it makes the rest of the article equally suspect.and useless as support for any conclusions though I would say the 'idea' is more plausabile than anything the M2F meda has come up with. If nothing else would make a good Brad Thor novel. Thumbs up and thanks

I would back that up a tad to Woodrow Wilson and a bit more previous to him. There was some ground work done first not the least of which was preaching socialism in the Universities. What Marx and Engles predicted was USA being the first not the last but sometimes the first shall be last and the last end up first or some such. Still always include the entire 20th century 1901 to 2000 as the Century of the Great Socialist Wars. It will be remembered by historians more for that than nuclear, computers, and other humdrum stuff.

Yes but i want to read it myself does it truly exist?

The FOIA coupled with zero oversight also got the Oklahoma City Bomb plans released to the public. McVey wanted to be a Green Beret. He never made it to day one. Somehow though the Little Black Book was made available to him....Fact is it's available to you this very day. Download it right off the internet.. So no not all but some. What is so sacret about the hidden Kennedy documents besides protecting 'LBJ? Those should see light of day.

The whole system is controlled from one point as to signal strnegh, on and off, coding and by geographical area. The organization in charge is the Department of Defense. since it was first built as a war time force multiplier. the Euratom system the same has the same controls.

Which is why prepared sailors learn to navigate by tradiitonal methods and are never reliant on only one system.