Remove the highest overall corporate tax rates in the developed world if you want more corporations to stay here. Apple is still based in the US. Try to inflict more force on them if you want that to no longer be the case.
Hi, Jdg. I'm not going to pretend I am an expert on the results of all tariffs, but I do appreciate the fact things can get out of hand such as their role in leading up to the American Revolution, Civil War, and WWII, and likely other wars around the globe.
I haven't read Friedman's take on tariffs so I can't comment on that. My proposal was supposed to be an incentive to get rid of tariffs by making them useless for other countries to impose them against us and, as a reflective policy, we wouldn't have any tariffs on their goods. Using your Japanese car example, if Japan placed a tariff as well as "inspection choke points" preventing importation of American cars, then the US would place the same tariff and "inspection choke points" on ALL goods coming to America from Japan. I'm sure ALL the Japanese manufacturers that want to ship to the US would scream loud enough to end their tariff and other shenanigans regarding American cars. Apply the same ruling towards China's treatment of American products shipped to China. It may be too late now, but I like to wonder how long it would take the playing field to naturally achieve level.
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Getting government out of the way IS the only way to do it right, but Trump will do no such thing. He's proud of lobbying government for special favors and corporate welfare, and he has said he will keep that process going and even make it easier.
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Milton Friedman showed that we're better off abolishing our import tariffs even if other countries keep theirs.
This is because a country that takes in another country's money is sooner or later going to send it back. If (for instance) Japanese auto makers get their government to put a tariff on imported cars, this helps Japan's car makers but it's at the expense of all of Japan's other industries and their workers.
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I'd like to hear more details of how Trump plans to do it. If he tries to punitively tax Apple, Apple will just move entirely overseas. What's he going to do then? Ban the importation of iPhones and iPads? The public won't stand for it.
If his import fees only apply to products American companies produce overseas, the companies will just stop being American. Problem solved.
More likely he'll try to do things the way he's used to doing them. Congress will pass a private bill offering Apple tax breaks to stay. And they'll do it, and we'll have to get our cheap phones from Samsung or Nokia instead. And Apple will need lobbyists to keep its sweetheart deal, and lawyers to handle all the red tape here. And would-be new competitors will still be locked out.
Read what I have already written and you will have the answer to that question. It appears that you recognize the evil the GOP and Dems represent and you know that voting for evil is not the answer. If you have a better answer than mine to peacefully restore liberty and free markets then share it.
Looks like the rest of the comments caught up to me. Want to drive another corporation out of the country. Sure way to do it. The entire world market production will be out of China and only US consumption will be made in the USA with higher prices. Tariffs on imports? Why would they bother. When you can sell to the world how consequential is one country and the newest model addicts will pay anything asked so Jobs company profit accordingly. Essentially the same item except slower to produce less to market and higher prices for the US consumer. Who deserve what they will get.I'm not buying my Jeep in the USA. I want diesel. US cannot provide that option. went back south of the border and got the hole thing for less than half USA price. I don't give a fig for licensing it in the USA. It's cheaper to rent one for the few days bother going back.
The only way to get these companies back is to lower the tax rate. Currently I think 10% would do the trick but we also have to restructure the corporate paradigm into something that would resemble what the Chinese factory's were able to do. The will to succeed, competent management and perhaps instead of division of labor, replace it with division of profit making units with the people in those units being in complete control as if it were their very own business and taking a percentage of the profits instead of a salary. It's a variation on the incentive idea that many in sales are used to.
If we were to stretch reality and assume, for a moment, that our votes actually matter, are you suggesting that voting for a Libertarian is not "doing nothing"? This is a step function - either 1 or 0. There is no middle. The party that doesn't win is irrelevant (except, of course, GOP-Dems - they share...).
In a non-parliamentary system, where the winner takes all, voting for a Gary Johnson is the same as sitting on a sidewalk with a sign. By the time a major percentage of the population realize that he's a better choice and agree not to vote themselves their neighbors' goodies, America won't exist anymore.
You should not assume that robotic assembly was the only reason NeXT didn't succeed or should have succeeded. Maybe price/performance was the killer OF the product line, not the Killer App. Heck, what would the list price have been WITHOUT robotic assembly? And remember how Japan owned the VHS market? They bought a bunch of US-made VHS players, then reverse-engineered the ENTIRE assembly process, initially using humans for ALL assembly steps... Then, one by one, they studied the process steps and automated Each and Every Step... one at a time... until it was completely automated.... and then their price/performance points nuked US assembly.
Comments like that from Trump just remind me that he's not a 'natural' at business economics and that when it comes to subjects like outsourcing or offshoring, he needs better advisers... like us, for example... But with his Ego, he ain't gonna search for any other opinions. And that's a real shame!
“In 2012, some national publications compared the ‘job creation’ records of several former governors who were running for President, and my record in New Mexico was deemed to be the best. My response raised some eyebrows: I said, ‘As Governor, I didn’t create a single job.’ It’s true. Government doesn’t create jobs. The private sector does, and government’s job is to stay out of the way and create an environment in which entrepreneurs and other employers can prosper without unnecessary regulation, taxes and interference. That’s what we tried to do in New Mexico…and it worked.” Gary Johnson, Libertarian http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/world...
Like I said above, the GOP is a statist, socialist camp with religion. And traitorous, as well. I have no respect for them at all. I wish that Trump would have run as an independent. If I were to go with the charade of voting, who else is there to vote for and still have the slightest hope that I'm not completely wasting my time?
Realistically, America would have been defeated by the British, but good men fought back against the evil state. If they had just whined about taxes are too high or we can't elect an honest governor America wouldn't exist, and the world would still be using 19th century technology. Conservative voters are the only block with a chance to restore liberty, but you must abandon the GOP. That is the only peaceful chance left for liberty. It's so much easier to do than fight a revolution.
In Atlas Shrugged, in the chapter "The Morator- ium on Brains", just before Directive 10-289 is issued, Dr. Floyd Ferris says something must be done about the big industrialists' vanishing. He even mentions that he proposed introducing the death penalty for those people, but Mouch re- fused. What is Trump trying to do here? Who does he imagine he is?
Can you imagine Apple HQ in Mumbai?
I haven't read Friedman's take on tariffs so I can't comment on that. My proposal was supposed to be an incentive to get rid of tariffs by making them useless for other countries to impose them against us and, as a reflective policy, we wouldn't have any tariffs on their goods. Using your Japanese car example, if Japan placed a tariff as well as "inspection choke points" preventing importation of American cars, then the US would place the same tariff and "inspection choke points" on ALL goods coming to America from Japan. I'm sure ALL the Japanese manufacturers that want to ship to the US would scream loud enough to end their tariff and other shenanigans regarding American cars. Apply the same ruling towards China's treatment of American products shipped to China. It may be too late now, but I like to wonder how long it would take the playing field to naturally achieve level.
I don't expect any of the candidates to think anything near Objectivism anymore...
He is "Mr. Rent-Seeker."
This is because a country that takes in another country's money is sooner or later going to send it back. If (for instance) Japanese auto makers get their government to put a tariff on imported cars, this helps Japan's car makers but it's at the expense of all of Japan's other industries and their workers.
If his import fees only apply to products American companies produce overseas, the companies will just stop being American. Problem solved.
More likely he'll try to do things the way he's used to doing them. Congress will pass a private bill offering Apple tax breaks to stay. And they'll do it, and we'll have to get our cheap phones from Samsung or Nokia instead. And Apple will need lobbyists to keep its sweetheart deal, and lawyers to handle all the red tape here. And would-be new competitors will still be locked out.
This is why Chinese companies are "more nimble."
I'll just settle for "Sir" Radio Randy...
Who deserve what they will get.I'm not buying my Jeep in the USA. I want diesel. US cannot provide that option. went back south of the border and got the hole thing for less than half USA price. I don't give a fig for licensing it in the USA. It's cheaper to rent one for the few days bother going back.
Objectively speaking
Maybe price/performance was the killer OF the product line, not the Killer App.
Heck, what would the list price have been WITHOUT robotic assembly?
And remember how Japan owned the VHS market? They bought a bunch of US-made VHS players, then reverse-engineered the ENTIRE assembly process, initially using humans for ALL assembly steps... Then, one by one, they studied the process steps and automated Each and Every Step... one at a time... until it was completely automated.... and then their price/performance points nuked US assembly.
But with his Ego, he ain't gonna search for any other opinions.
And that's a real shame!
Gary Johnson, Libertarian
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/world...
Trump, the Perfect, of course. Why would he ever imagine anything else?
ium on Brains", just before Directive 10-289 is
issued, Dr. Floyd Ferris says something must be
done about the big industrialists' vanishing. He
even mentions that he proposed introducing the
death penalty for those people, but Mouch re-
fused. What is Trump trying to do here? Who
does he imagine he is?
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