Watched the Debates. We're Doomed.
OK, I have avoided the debates until recently. Watched most of the Repub one last week and almost all of the Dems (on the dvr yesterday). I have come to the conclusion that we're probably doomed. With the Republicans...if you really listen closely you see this overwhelming desire to use government to fix things. There are, surprisingly, promises to "tax for this" and "tax for that". I don't remember hearing a peep about smaller government.
Then...there are the Dems. Of the three in the debate, Omally (sp?) is the only one who sounds sane. At all. Seems like a decent person, actually. Has no chance in hell. Hillary, to even my surprise, offered ZERO solutions to anything. (I don't expect any hint of a hands-off approach from this crowd, so work with me). She pointed out that the lead in the water in Flint had to do with race. I have always thought she'll be the next president and, apparently, she thinks so too. Very scary thought. Worse than the current guy in there? Anybody's guess. Then, there's Bernie. Sometimes, he actually makes a little sense. But, there is his tireless fixation with other people's money. He absolutely sees wealth as something to be taken. He's very open about it. And, just this morning I heard a clip of him talking up Fidel Castro. Anybody here ever been to Cuba? He said that the lack of an uprising is proof that the people like the Communism there. Very scary stuff. Way out of touch with reality. Yet, I check social media this morning and some people I know back Bernie.
I think things in America are going to get much worse before they get better. My little son made some interesting statements. He has a disability, but has progressed well. He'll actually sit and watch these people talk and figure out who's full of crap (all of them). After watching a while he looked up at me and said, "Dad. What will you do if Sanders gets elected?" Without hesitation I responded, "Hide our stuff." That turned into a short, fun conversation...
Then...there are the Dems. Of the three in the debate, Omally (sp?) is the only one who sounds sane. At all. Seems like a decent person, actually. Has no chance in hell. Hillary, to even my surprise, offered ZERO solutions to anything. (I don't expect any hint of a hands-off approach from this crowd, so work with me). She pointed out that the lead in the water in Flint had to do with race. I have always thought she'll be the next president and, apparently, she thinks so too. Very scary thought. Worse than the current guy in there? Anybody's guess. Then, there's Bernie. Sometimes, he actually makes a little sense. But, there is his tireless fixation with other people's money. He absolutely sees wealth as something to be taken. He's very open about it. And, just this morning I heard a clip of him talking up Fidel Castro. Anybody here ever been to Cuba? He said that the lack of an uprising is proof that the people like the Communism there. Very scary stuff. Way out of touch with reality. Yet, I check social media this morning and some people I know back Bernie.
I think things in America are going to get much worse before they get better. My little son made some interesting statements. He has a disability, but has progressed well. He'll actually sit and watch these people talk and figure out who's full of crap (all of them). After watching a while he looked up at me and said, "Dad. What will you do if Sanders gets elected?" Without hesitation I responded, "Hide our stuff." That turned into a short, fun conversation...
Kinda like Kickass's green costume in the flick by the same name..
I recall Kickass approaching the apartment door of local black gang boss Raoul and being asked by a fat hoodlum guard, "Who are you? The Green Condom?",
A government program (= more tax money wasted) would be controlled by politicians who'd then be enabled to sneak off their condom suits every chance they got.
New slang phrases would crop up such as "Doing the Dirty Bill."
Our troubled country does not need any more sleazy career politicians doing the dirty all over it.
No wait, that's what the condom suits are supposed to prevent.
No, double wait! They would be made in China.
That's why I stopped buying pull over shirts with sewn on pockets.
Holes appear where the pockets are attached.
Reminds me of "Made In Japan" being laughed at back during the 50s.
Now I drive a Honda.
If you think the Republicans are inexperienced and hopeless, you have been on another planet for the last 7 years. We have seen experience community dis-organizing at its worst . If our dying large cities get any worse, we will experience real martial law and desperation as the non producers jealousy is fanned by a regime that flourishes on class hatred and jealousy.
The Republicans are far from inexperienced. Unfortunately the experience they have is only good for a stronger, more intrusive fedgov and the continued destruction of individual liberty and free markets. The GOP promises the good (liberty) and delivers the evil (socialist-facist statism.)
The statist party has disproven this assumption for the past 50 years. They have proven that a vote for either the GOP or the Dems is a vote for the status quo: bigger, more powerful fedgov, less liberty, and a more crippled, more manipulated, less free market.
I think the only peaceful chance that America has is for so-called conservative voters to recognize the betrayal perpetrated by the GOP, and vote for a principled third party. The only excuse they give is: 3rd parties can't win. Without rational voters, that is true. Conservatives must show they are better than liberals and vote on principles of individual liberty against the state.
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing."
Good men have been doing nothing for 50 years and its clear the same old vote for the lesser of two evils is the problem, not the solution.
here!!
PBS?
Masterpiece Theater?
And who, after watching it, will respond by changing their mind?
But part of the reality check is still "who's going to make That documentary, who's going to broadcast it, and Whose minds will be changed by seeing it?"
Precious few in any group, I'm sorry to guess.
And that's where the 'doom' forecast comes from.
Seniors like Trump because we've see the rampant bullshit of DC for scores of years in our lifetimes. Kids under 25 or so are vulnerable to Bernie because so many of their parents or teachers or professors have steeped them in socialist tea most of their lives. They don't have any other inputs, and nobody's ever taught them Critical Thinking. I'm writing a book on it...
Hang in there...
In the same vein of "let's petition Congress to lower their salaries and benefits..." Gee-- such a vote-getter That Would Be! Same situation.
I have watched them too. Sad really to believe that so many are taken in by this nonsense. The last one with the Dems had me thinking the whole time, these three are just trying to outbid each other for votes with more money we don't have. Every solution offered was a statist government one... as if the problems they wanted to solve weren't originally created in the same manner....
Respectfully,
O.A.
Your son is most likely a better candidate than the likely nominees, but I would hate to put such a burden on one so young.
did you need to see or hear the debates to come to that decision. haven't the past 8 or more years given you the necessary knowledge to know that?
We'd all like to have it all done at once but I think the smarter way would be a 'defined' little at a time.
After, of course, after taking out the Fed, The IRS, the BLM and the dept of education. Along with disempowering HLS and the EPA.
But truthfully I would be satisfied if we just attended to the constitution and the principle ideas of our founding, maybe one of us or others like us might do our part as being representative of America in our government.
from these plunderers who are doing their best to money-grub
their way to wealth and power. . disgusting. -- j
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Politicians get elected primarily on how well they appeal to our Utopian desires, rather than how well they address the more immediate, mundane problems. Those politicians that make a concerted effort to detail exactly how they're going to fix the various near term problems usually lose, as the interest of the voter is simple minded and fickle.
Regardless of what the political candidates promise, any success will depend on how pragmatic they are, and how gifted they are are making the deal with the various interest groups on the Hill (did I just use a Trump term?). Given that reality, I assess each competitor on their personal history and performance. O'Malley ranks at the bottom, since the city he mayored (Baltimore) and the state he governed (Maryland) are socialist economic and crime basket cases. Ted Cruz doesn't fare much better, as his only major accomplishment has been getting elected, and he's proven to be an unproductive pain in the backside in the Senate. Trump has a history of success based on tremendous negotiating skills, and Kasich has an admirable track record, both in Congress and as a governor of Ohio.
Trust and integrity are also important, with Clinton at rock bottom on that score. Sanders is more trustworthy, which is frightening in a way, as you can believe he'll try his best to institute a socialist government. Rubio looks and sounds good, but he's a toady for the sugar industry.
I was a Rand Paul supporter, but I've lost faith in his ability to promote the small government message effectively enough to win broad support. Intellectually he makes the most sense, but he lacks Trump's skill at gaining the media attention necessary to capture the crowd's emotions.
Are we screwed? While I'm skeptical anyone can easily overcome the friction of an incompetent, corrupt unelected civil service institution, I don't think we are - yet. If a Democrat President captures the SCOTUS, the heart of our republic is in serious peril. Like the candidate or not, I'll vote Republican, as a vote against, as Will Rogers advised.
Jan
Assuming either will win is not rooted in reality, Obama turned filibuster-proof democrat majorities into the largest Republican control of the House and Senate in 70 years in 2 cycles, it's looking like another 10 seats this time. Maybe you live in a left district or something, but doesn't square with electoral counts, polls are just a poll, not electoral points in the winner-take-all state by state system.
The Swift Boat campaign is running already on Hillary, most of the strategy was to give Bernie enough help to either beat her or severely wound her.
Trump is actually much higher than he even looks because they poll 'likely Republican voters', 7 out of 8 of his attendees in Reno were unemployed steel workers, blue collar workers, etc., only half with a college education, and are never thought of as Republican. When the field collapses around him, he gets 100% of Republicans because we would never vote for a cackling witch or a communist, he is also going to drag a lot of the Union and non-union laborers... Would likely look like Carter v Reagan.
The guy hasn't spent a dollar on a TV ad yet... And looks like he just took out Cruz in Iowa for free.
You are right on with this.......They see government as a potential solution, not what it is....the problem.
Has Bill Clinton been re-writing the dictionary again?
I didn't watch the debates, skimmed the over view and learned....nothing I didn't know all ready. The real question is what are their viewpoints and platforms going to be when they get elected ....really?
I just can't imagine how it all will turn out. I dare not, in the face of many disappointments of the past, believe in one thing or another but I will do my part as best I can and prepare for the worst...I do not like feeling that way.
radio. I just think the best idea is to vote for Cruz.
If Trump gets it, it will be very dangerous, as he
brags about being unprincipled and is not a free-
enterprise man. But who knows how it will turn out?
It's Lenin-ites vs. Trotsky-ites.
And speaking of Dimocrats, I keep saying that they are only running old white guys. They are all socialists, but Bernie Sanders is the only one honest enough to admit it. Shrillary is only in contention because she is married to Bill, who will get his third and (maybe) fourth terms as the de-facto president. O'Malley is the only halfway qualified Dimocrat, and he is at 1% in the polls. Doesn't this speak volumes about how far left the Dimocrat party is? It wouldn't surprise me very much if Bernie Sanders is their nominee. The evening pundits on Fox News laugh at that possibility, but they also laughed at Donald Trump's chances. If Hillary gets into real legal trouble over her personal e-mail server, Bernie could very well be the nominee. The Obama Justice department will ultimately make the call to prosecute, and I think that decision turns on the political question of who Obama wants as his successor.
It's hard for me to watch the death of freedom in America, even harder when you consider that people are just throwing away their freedom in exchange for a litany of empty promises. The policies that the Dimocrats run on would have guaranteed that they would lose a presidential election by 60 percentage points 100 years ago. Now we're sweating out if a Republican can squeak out a 2 point victory over a socialist. This does not bode well for the future.
2. We thought hillary was the de facto president. You mean that story is finally changing...
3. Obama may well prosecute Hillary in order to remove any competition from the left
4. Never assume that 44% to 46% group of non Rino and non-Dino voters may suddenly become greater than fifty percent. Could end up the only one left standing for both halves of the Government Party to support is Fiorino. Only way they have a chance at 50% plus anyway..A lot of people are re-thinking the fallacies of believing Republicans AND Democrats
End of story will be a winner with about 26% of the vote. Leving a majority of 75% to a ruling plurality of 25%
I'm sweating out either one of those loser groups winning. But it's better to explode the fairy tales and start over - especially now there is no law of the land.
Obama intends to use the military to maintain control. If he does he'll be ousted in counter revolution ... He has not too much left in the coookie jar. and puttng the people he spent eight years despising heh heh heh. you think he's that stupid or it's Barack Against The Wall Time?
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