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Watched the Debates. We're Doomed.

Posted by $ Abaco 10 years, 4 months ago to Politics
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OK, I have avoided the debates until recently. Watched most of the Repub one last week and almost all of the Dems (on the dvr yesterday). I have come to the conclusion that we're probably doomed. With the Republicans...if you really listen closely you see this overwhelming desire to use government to fix things. There are, surprisingly, promises to "tax for this" and "tax for that". I don't remember hearing a peep about smaller government.

Then...there are the Dems. Of the three in the debate, Omally (sp?) is the only one who sounds sane. At all. Seems like a decent person, actually. Has no chance in hell. Hillary, to even my surprise, offered ZERO solutions to anything. (I don't expect any hint of a hands-off approach from this crowd, so work with me). She pointed out that the lead in the water in Flint had to do with race. I have always thought she'll be the next president and, apparently, she thinks so too. Very scary thought. Worse than the current guy in there? Anybody's guess. Then, there's Bernie. Sometimes, he actually makes a little sense. But, there is his tireless fixation with other people's money. He absolutely sees wealth as something to be taken. He's very open about it. And, just this morning I heard a clip of him talking up Fidel Castro. Anybody here ever been to Cuba? He said that the lack of an uprising is proof that the people like the Communism there. Very scary stuff. Way out of touch with reality. Yet, I check social media this morning and some people I know back Bernie.

I think things in America are going to get much worse before they get better. My little son made some interesting statements. He has a disability, but has progressed well. He'll actually sit and watch these people talk and figure out who's full of crap (all of them). After watching a while he looked up at me and said, "Dad. What will you do if Sanders gets elected?" Without hesitation I responded, "Hide our stuff." That turned into a short, fun conversation...


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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 10 years, 4 months ago
    "Then, there's Bernie. Sometimes, he actually makes a little sense."
    I sense he's at least sincere. He's not just saying what he thinks will get him elected.

    "But, there is his tireless fixation with other people's money. He absolutely sees wealth as something to be taken."
    It's more his get-of-an-issue free card by saying we could always tax the wealthy to solve some problem. If he's going that route, he should state what level of wealth makes him interested in taxing you, maybe it's income >300k/yr. Then there should be some buffer zone where you don't need any handouts, but he's not going to ask for more taxes from you. Maybe it's $100k < income < $300k. Then he could state how much more he'll squeeze out of the rich and how much extra in handouts/programs they'll give to the middle class and poor. I think people would be shocked at how little money there is when you start splitting that pie up.
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  • Posted by $ 10 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes, I get that feeling too. It's all just a rehash of the same points from long ago. Very sad to see that pass for "conservatism" in these times...
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  • Posted by richrobinson 10 years, 4 months ago
    Sanders occasionally sees the problem but his solutions are worse. Hillary is so hell bent on winning the White House I think she would blame the Republicans for the Titanic sinking. Some Republican ideas are good but it seems to me I heard them in 2012, 2008, 2004, 2000, 1996, 1992....
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 10 years, 4 months ago
    Things will get worse. Whether they ever get better is highly debatable.
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  • Posted by $ 10 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yeah...I was cooking and watching. Good diet plan as it destroys one's ability to stomach anything.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 10 years, 4 months ago
    Debates? What debates?
    Has Bill Clinton been re-writing the dictionary again?
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 10 years, 4 months ago
    They have nothing to compare it to that is positive Bastista to Castro just meant changing the sign on the door and learning some new slogans.

    I didn't watch the debates, skimmed the over view and learned....nothing I didn't know all ready. The real question is what are their viewpoints and platforms going to be when they get elected ....really?
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