not necessarily. I oppose their operations because their stated goal is to decrease the world population. Pre-Natal care is only offered in 8% of clinics. (95% of all business is the abortion business. While I support a woman't right to choose, it seems moral to me to promote human life, encourage adoption and provide prenatal care to women who are poor, but find themselves pregnant.also, I don't like the taxpayer subsidy, they receive 500M a yr from federal govt.

The Planned Parenthood topic is a case of politics making for strange bedfellows. The constitutionally thrifty like us have a different moral reason for defunding of Planned Parenthood than the social conservatives.

Yes but here we are discussing a whole host of groups ideologically and politically similar to PP, though in many cases with different functions. The conservatives are doing nothing to stop or reduce their funding, only increasing it while making an hysterical scene over PP out of opposition to legal abortion.

Money is fungible and any support for general operations also serves to indirectly support specific activities even though the money cannot be spent on them directly. But the fact that PP provides abortion services is not a justification to destroy it, and the conservatives are dishonest in pretending that the money is for abortions and that they are trying to cut spending on the subsidies. They aren't cutting subsidies, they are redistributing and increasing them.

In obviously going after legal abortion they are package-dealing their irrelevant and destructive religious campaign to important reforms, undermining rational support for the reforms and opposition to the left in Washington politics.

"All of them should be cut off."
I N D E E D ! along with all the other unconstitutional funding.

If HRC becomes president, the creativity of the Clintons in raiding the Treasury will be something to behold.

Exactly. Get it out in the open.

Officially they aren't but the catch with money is that it is fungible. Money it gets from one source to do Foo is money it doesn't have to use to do Foo from another source.

Maybe that's not our money...maybe that their baby parts money...it will be in good company in the vault with the monies of our enemy's.

These creatures have done little to no good ever and there is no difference between Their or governments lies, perversions or corruptions.

When the government gives to an NGO's general fund and the NGO uses "other" funds to carry out part of its mission or to support politicos that will enable them, your argument, though technically correct, is mostly a semantic one.

I agree with the remainder of what you said, particularly regarding the idea that all NGOs should be cut off. Regarding conservatives' attempt to equate abortion with other major policy issues, I will agree that conservatives view all of those issues as immoral.

Happy New Year, ewv.
+1 for "Cackles campaign"

but isn't it a better case against taxpayer $$ going to
evil empires like this one? -- j
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and what percentage of this is our tax money? -- j
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And that will make it official - we are a banana republic.

Planned Parenthood isn't using government money to support the Cackles campaign, which is illegal (and it isn't using it for abortions either). But it is getting tons of taxpayer funds for its general operations that include leftist propagandizing permeating the organization on a routine daily basis. It is one of thousands of NGOs being subsidized by taxpayers. All of them should be cut off.

The conservatives aren't trying to do that, they want to defund PP to destroy the organization for its abortions -- which are legal and up to the choice of the women who want them -- while they divert the same funding and more to the other NGOs. They are obsessing over PP over religious injunctions against abortion, trying to equate it with the major policy issues like the enormous deficit, Obama health control, and illegal immigration threatening the country.

Frankly I'll applaud the day we can openly purchase politicians.

There is NO justification for mooching. If you're suggesting that healthcare is unavailable unless PP is there, then there must not have been healthcare before PP existed, and if that's the case, then clearly healthcare is not a necessity, because we've clearly survived thousands of years without it. If you buy that idea, I have a used bridge to sell you.

Note the vast majority of the government funds going to PP are reimbursements for services provided to individuals receiving health care under government programs (medicare and medicaid). Such programs, and their cousins, direct government acquisitions, invite the recipients to become involved in politics to protect their cash flow. That's why we see such diverse groups as defense contractors, hospitals, drug companies, manufacturers of solar equipment, and on and on, lining up to support politicians. This is just another sick example of this amalgam of corruption and power politics.

The case against corporate political donations! If Planned Parenthood cannot sustain itself without the government dole, then it should go out of business and legal/political barricades that have prevented competition of provision of those services should be eliminated. Looters are worse than looters when they operate in a closed-loop conspiracy.

IMHO, how an individual spends their own earned money is free speech. But that does not hold true for any individual or organization that receives taxpayer funds. They are simply looters perpetuating their existence. As K stated, this organization is evil.

It is interested to see how the taxes I through coercion pay can so playfully bounce around like a pinball to one entitled BING! to another entitled BING! on a machine where TILT has been disengaged.

PP is the sole provider, in most parts of the US, of a service most of us -- including myself -- consider indispensable to liberty. As far as I'm concerned that makes them pretty much immune to criticism even if they mooch.

Besides, it's a lot cheaper to abort an unwanted baby than to pay him/her the dole for life or have him/her go into crime, which are the most likely alternatives.

It annoys me that PP supports leftist politicians, but what do you expect when rightists want PP destroyed?

Simply amazing. Of course the unions have been doing this more indirectly for years. Although this is the same as teachers and other government employee unions.

Hillary and Planned Parenthood, become the evil twins of politics. They deserve each other. I feel the need for a shower just reading about them.

I trust they used a money condom to stop the spread of corruption.

I've wondered before what would happen if anyone, at any level, that receives pay, grants, contracts, etc from the gov't were blocked from involvement or donation in politics.