Irshultis: Amen x 100!!!

Having been sailor in the US military there is never an occasion to kneel before anyone, be blind folded or apologize for happenstance. A ship, boat or any craft that has mechanical failure drifts. A second ship, boat or craft, typically pulls alongside and lashed itself to the disabled craft and repairs are made. If determined unrepairable the disabled craft is towed. PROPER procedure when this happens, at least from what I've seen and took part in in US waters, is to approach the craft, perhaps board her to ensure nothing nefarious is going on, and then keep watch over it until its underway again OR help repair the craft.

What we saw was blatantly hostile.

Having lived on a ship for 2 years AND piloted small assault craft I can say without a doubt there was sabotage involved. Experienced mechanics, who do nothing but their vocation 24/7, conduct daily maintenance and overhaul routines on all boats. For total failure to occur, days or weeks of neglect, or complete incompetence, would have to have occurred - it just doesn't happen.

Reports are coming in today that the Oministration informed the Iranians of the disabled crafts location.Why? If the disabled craft was that bad why did they not tow it into safer waters? Where was the ship these boats report to? Where was the air protection? Why wasn't a ship dispatched when the two craft had "issues"?

Anyone surprised that Iran is releasing prisoners now? Anyone surprised that Kerry is saying Iran has met all conditions to have sanctions lifted?

O is all about empowering and emboldening islam while tearing down this nation. He is a traitor and history will reveal him so even if today we PREFER to wear blinders.

I am not sure we have another Regan in the ready spare locker...The fact military GPS is so accurate just adds to the suspicion this is all a con job, again.

A very valid point, and it fits the suspects.

This is political collusion between BHO and the Iranians. He's trying to show Congress that the Iranians are not so bad so let's pass the Iranian Nuclear Agreement.
The other possibility of testing an EMP weapon as was mentioned. Their not dumb people, they have the brainpower their engineers and scientists which they maipulate at their
discretion. It is a good hypothysis they know that our larger naval vessels are hardened against such attack. The Iranians with such weapons could control the Straits of Hormuz and reek havoc on all commercial vessels.

Because their commander-in-chief has no balls. Send the Marines!

I guess after obama is out of office, the next president will have to spend the next four years apologizing for the idiocy of the previous 8. Just think, just like Obama spent 8 years blaming Bush, the next president can spend the next 8 blaming Obama.....

Or, this moronic administration decided to "stage" this event just to make the Iranians look good (and of course, make America look bad). There are just too many areas that stink! Then again, with this administration everything thing it does stinks! Kind of smells like living in some third world, petty dictator's hellhole! Truth never flows with this Liar in Chief!

To give you an idea as to just how bad it is, the newly appointed Admiral who is now head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff just ordered the Commandant of the Marine corp to make every MOS not only available to women but to fully integrate all including combat areas for the corp.

Needless to say, this is totally idiotic and in the case of the corp, will only demolish the morale and efficiency of the units. It will also (sorry if I am stepping on anyone's toes) require the lowering of standards significantly, especially in the RECON area.

God bless that phone and pen that he wields so well! I'm sure with this edict, the Iranians (and everyone else) are laughing and planning their next military adventures now that they don't have to fear the US military.

Unfortunately, the GPS that are used in our modern military is far more accurate than 50 yards and those boats are far more sophisticated than the Swifts and PBRs of the Vietnam era. Now, thanks to the doctrine of this president and his extreme errors in judgement (so what else is new?) and the lack of fear or even respect that we once commanded is now gone and we can expect other actions such as this going forward.

Our current military with the leadership from the president on down is on the wrong trajectory and as such, making our place in the world that much more dangerous. This is what you get when you give a child a dangerous toy that he has no clue about. He, like Carter have given us a military that is rapidly losing its swagger and guts. Those boats should never have been deployed unless on a mission of extreme importance. That does not appear to be the case.

It will take another Reagan to come in and fix the mess these last 14 years have given us. The military has been misused, abused and weakened by the leadership of both of these men, primarily Obama and in Obama's case with a certain amount of knowledge aforethought!

This president's agenda is an absolute travesty! He has reduced the military to just another experiment in social engineering that is doomed to fail just like all of the other manifestations of this president's "extreme" liberalism.

The Iranians are laughing at us because every day this president licks another boot. As for the Iranians, he has just done another totally idiotic thing. After all of the humiliations handed to him by the Iranians ever since the sham of a nuclear deal, they just added another whopper!

Yesterday, Obama allowed the US to sell aircraft to his masters in Iran. Between Kerry and Obama, they should have the region on its knees in short order and the world will suffer accordingly!

For what its worth!

Yep, that's it. Pretty damn big boat they made, 2 hulls inside an outer hull. I remember reading secret books describing all the "what we thinks" back in the 80s when they first saw it, and there were all kinds of wild ideas about it. When the first vids came out showing the pool inside, everyone was amazed at it. We had no pools on Tridents....

found it, I think:::

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdYbi...

-- j
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my usaf training was survival only;;; I don't exactly
envy you, Michael, but the story is sure interesting! -- j
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I love Heinlein's structure analysis in Starship Troopers. 20 to 30% of the personnel fight, the rest support. The problem was the Navy did not have the resource of a Darwinian selection tool like combat. We kept our idiots and promoted them. There was even an E8/9 mafia, if you weren't in the clique your weren't getting selected. Good riddance to it all. very few fond memories of that mess.

And mores the pity for what we have lost.. as well as the humiliation of both country and men. Yet having no impact on our perceived lords and masters...

Don't have a clue what the plan was. Just the story that that was the way they would make sure the boat did not survive. Probably no time for complaint forms. One would think a timed detonator, still would have made a hell of a mess, with 16 mult warheads and a reactor worth of contamination in the ocean..... Speaking of which, there is a you tube video about decommissioning a Typhoon where they were allowed to film the whole process, what a friggin awesome submarine. Should have just hollowed it out and either made a cruise liner of it or a cargo boat. Huge beastie...

I never saw what captured them, the one picture looked like a small boat with a 20 mm strapped up front. Last I knew, all our boats had some form of radar to warn them of contacts, they couldn't have called for help and a few F15s fly overhead at Mach1? This still doesn't make any sense.

Doc, depends on what the Rules Of Engagement are. If they were not in territorial waters as recognized by the US, then they should have told them to go bit a rock and moved on. The problem is there is not enough details, and as usual with this administration, there never will be until some squid coughs something up when offered enough money in the future. Even then, you never know if it is the real facts or the facts they want you to know.

In the middle of the Gulf? Better to run ashore at some little dinky town and beg a can of gas. That island was known on maps to be claimed by Iran and had a station on it. To even have a refueling source that close to it is as insane as they come. It looks like this is a Kerry version of Benghazi minus HillaryBeast.