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  • Posted by Robbie53024 11 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    OK, so here's my recent experience. I was at a client in the middle of Minnesota. I drove there from just north of Milwaukee so that I could conceivably purchase some ammo on the way home from someplace that might have some. On my way home I called every Walmart, Fleet/Farm, Farm&Fleet, and Dicks along a 450 mile path down I94. Not one had any!
    I stopped in the Cabelas just west of the twin cities and the store mgr there said that the only 22LR that they had was for the "doorbuster" on Sat - and then only 96 bricks of 1000 rds.
    I went to our local Cabelas this morning. I was there 45 mins prior to opening and was twice as far back as where they handed out coupons to purchase the 22LR's.
    The mfr's might be making it, but I don't know where the heck it's going. The Fleet/Farm in St. Cloud said that they haven't had 22LR for over a month. Our local FF in West Bend says the same.
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  • Posted by $ stargeezer 11 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    CCI/Speer tell us that they are making 4.5 million 22LR on each of their 2 shifts. That is one type of 22LR they make and that is one manufacturer (albeit the biggest). I don't know where it all goes, but the pile you see on my bench in the pic I posted was 22's I purchased locally in a one week period last summer. It's out there, you must drive around to find it and in some cases you may pay more for it than we traditionally have.

    Go thou and do like wise.
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  • Posted by BambiB 11 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yeah. Last I talked to the Wal Mart guy, he said they no longer were limiting quantities for anything EXCEPT .22LR. Thinking in terms of demand, it might have something to do with .22LR being the most popular caliber on the planet AND being relatively inexpensive.

    When .300-Win Mag is available, probably not too many people think, "I ought to buy 1000 rounds of that" (at a cost of over $1000). But for .22LR, that's just two bricks and around $25!

    If you think about it, .22LR should have been one of the calibers least affected by the O-Bomb-Ya! administrations mass ammo buys, since the government would rather shoot us with the OTHER .22s (.223). Now that all the raw materials are available (if you have material for other calibers, you've got what you need for rimfire) the only scenarios that make sense are:
    1) Manufacturers are making greater profit on other calibers, or,
    2) Demand for .22LR still outstrips manufacturing capabilities.
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  • Posted by gonzo309 11 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The trick is to hold your sneeze mid way and gentle pull the trigger. NMA, don't forget to have milk shoot out your nose for effect. 8-)
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  • Posted by gonzo309 11 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I went to an Appleseed Project (http://appleseedinfo.org) event to qualify for marksman or rifleman level. Went through ~750 rounds of 22LR over two days. It's amazing that they can teach you to be accurate out to 400 yards with iron sites. I was the only one in my class to make the 250 yard headshot. I had to learn to shoot left-handed with an eye patch since my right arm is stupid from the stroke. It's a big confidence builder when you actually do it.

    I'm saving the rest of my 22LR for SHTF conditions since I can't readily find any more in the stores I frequent. I've got some 40 cal S&W hollowpoints to trade in SHTF since I don't have a 40 cal. I'm good on 9mm. Hope I never have to use it for defense but I now know that I can be deadly accurate when I have to be. Don't let the skills get stale. 8-)
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  • Posted by Non_mooching_artist 11 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You've got that right! I really admire that you do that yourself. I'm guessing if I had the proper equipment, I could manage to reload my own ammo. Knowing me, I'd sneeze and explode my house ;-D
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  • Posted by $ stargeezer 11 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That's just a typical weekends shooting NMA.

    A 500 bulk pak of 9mm, one 250rd of 5.56mm and some 45ACP or shotgun ammo. That would eat up $250 pretty fast.

    I just finished loading 3500 45ACP this week. Primers and powder cost almost that. Bullets were $125 per 1000.

    A ammo case full of 22LR - Priceless!
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  • Posted by $ stargeezer 11 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    This year for Christmas I gave bulk packs of 22's to all my buddies. It made shopping easy, for once. Now I'm down to around 18,000 22's. and I think I'll be shooting my black powder guns a lot more this year.
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  • Posted by khalling 11 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Actually, eminent domain and salt peter are related. from wiki:
    The first case of eminent domain in English law is called the "Saltpeter Case" or the "King's Prerogative in Saltpeter Case." The English King needed saltpeter for munitions and took a saltpeter mine from a private individual. The private party sued the King and the court established the right of the sovereign to take "private property for public use" without liability for trespass but requiring payment of compensation for the taken saltpeter. When the Colonies became the United States and the English Common Law was adopted as the law of the new nation, this principle was recognized. Contrary to popular belief, the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution did not establish this right in the US, as it was already inherent in common law. The Fifth Amendment limited the right of eminent domain by requiring that takings be for "public use" and that "just compensation" be paid for the taken property. The term eminent domain is used primarily in the United States, where the term was derived in the mid-19th century from the legal treatise, De Jure Belli et Pacis, written by the Dutch jurist Hugo Grotius in 1625, who used the term dominium eminens and described the power as follows:
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